Topic: What happens to the wicked upon death? - page 14. (Read 6599 times)
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"What happens to the wicked upon death?"
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I actually read recently of five words for hell and as zimmah mentioned . One Hebrew, four Greek. The above is just referring to the Greek, so the difference between the two is the word 'Abyss'.
Sheol (from the Hebrew)
Hades, Gehenna, Tartaroo and Abyss.
Abyss is found nine times, and is translated 'bottomless pit' in Revelation, according to Perry Stone's 'Secrets from Beyond the Grave'.
Got the book last summer when camping, but, lost the driver in reading it, so I have not gotten far with it.
So, if we had a bottomless pit here on earth, where would it be? Well, first, you have to imagine what a bottomless pit would be like, especially on a planet. The only place that could match a bottomless pit on earth would be, right at the center of the earth.
In other words, if there were a pit on earth that didn't have a bottom, it would be at the center of the earth. The reason for this is that gravity is pulling equally in all directions at the center of the earth. The stuff at the center of the earth might have a lot of pressure on it, but it doesn't have any measurable gravitational force acting on it, because the earth's gravity is pulling equally in every direction. Because of this, if there were a pit that went down to the center of the earth, it really couldn't have a bottom even if it did.
The Revelation talks about the devil being cast into the bottomless pit, and it is locked and sealed over him. Because of this, we probably won't find the way down ourselves, because the pit has been sealed.
Now, what better place to stick the devil for "a thousand years" than a pit that is as hot as the center of the earth? The devil is being shown what is awaiting him throughout eternity when he is thrown into the lake of fire.
My opinion is that it happens same as to the rest of the people, we die and that's it. Nothing more to it.
Only way to be sure would be become a wicked person, then killing myself at the peak of my wickedness, and see what happens.
I'm not willing to test it.
Any volunter to be the test subject?
I'm not willing to test it.
Any volunter to be the test subject?
In my post at https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8688563, the EDIT needs clarification. The dead remaining on the earth are not all the dead, but only the dead wicked. The souls of the dead righteous are held in a paradise in Heaven, before God Himself.
At the final judgment, the souls of ALL people will be re-united with their bodies, so that they can receive what is due them for things done on the earth. Those who had acknowledged Jesus as having taken punishment for the things they had done wrong while on earth, will be taken into a life of joy and glory, forever with God - since Jesus took their punishment. The dead wicked, those who did not acknowledge Jesus, will be sent to the lake of fire that has been prepared for the devil and his angels, "where their worm does not die and their fire is not quenched."
At the final judgment, the souls of ALL people will be re-united with their bodies, so that they can receive what is due them for things done on the earth. Those who had acknowledged Jesus as having taken punishment for the things they had done wrong while on earth, will be taken into a life of joy and glory, forever with God - since Jesus took their punishment. The dead wicked, those who did not acknowledge Jesus, will be sent to the lake of fire that has been prepared for the devil and his angels, "where their worm does not die and their fire is not quenched."
they certainly are worth being tortured or more cruelly for heinous criminals
You die. Your brain rot and you are no more.
End of story
End of story
It's a shame that someone as intelligent as you doesn't value himself/herself any more than that.
that in my religion is Islam, they will receive the appropriate torment their crimes in the world during
No matter if you are Hitler or the Pope, you are going to die and have ethernal nothingness, deal with it.
You die. Your brain rot and you are no more.
End of story
End of story
I believe that if one is "wicked".......he is dealt with in this life. It's called karma.I do not believe that there's a judgemental "god" who sits on a throne and passes sentence on his "creations"......
So that either means you believe 'god' is ok with the wicked, or...that 'god' does not exist. If the latter, then, what makes someone wicked? If there is no absolute standard, then are you saying that Hitler is wicked by one standard, not so by another, and who is anyone to judge which standard is wrong?
Life is not fair.
Do you really think people are respnsible for their choices? Has science proven that?
Because, otherwise, there is no evil. It is what it is. No more evil than a tree falling on a house and hurting someone.
It would be great if the wicked were punished and the good rewarded after death. Unfortunately there is no evidence of anything except oblivion for us all. That's why I'm for punishing and rewarding behavior in this life.
So let's assume that if a tree fell on a house and killed someone, and your "god" could have prevented it, does that make your "god" Evil? because he didn\t stop that tree?
Ok, lets ask that in the context of what the Bible says happens.If a tree fell on a house and killed someone who has a sinful nature prone to evil, someone though who has peace with his Creator, and as a result enter into the present of this Creator with great joy and no longer battles with this sinful nature (it now being gone), and is now in a place where there is no more pain or sorrow.....
if this Creator could have prevented this someone from entering into such joy, etc, but did not prevent it, does this make this Creator evil?
Nah.
If I went about saying John just hit Joe in the stomach and asked if John should be brought up on charges, and left out the pertinent fact that they were boxers in a ring, I would be misrepresenting what happened as you did.
Now, I don't necessarily know that you did so purposely, but, your refusal to own up your mistake is pretty clear now.
So let's assume that if a tree fell on a house and killed someone, and your "god" could have prevented it, does that make your "god" Evil? because he didn\t stop that tree?
Ok, lets ask that in the context of what the Bible says happens.If a tree fell on a house and killed someone who has a sinful nature prone to evil, someone though who has peace with his Creator, and as a result enter into the present of this Creator with great joy and no longer battles with this sinful nature (it now being gone), and is now in a place where there is no more pain or sorrow.....
if this Creator could have prevented this someone from entering into such joy, etc, but did not prevent it, does this make this Creator evil?
Nah.
So let's assume that if a tree fell on a house and killed someone, and your "god" could have prevented it, does that make your "god" Evil? because he didn\t stop that tree?
Ok, lets ask that in the context of what the Bible says happens.If a tree fell on a house and killed someone who has a sinful nature prone to evil, someone though who has peace with his Creator, and as a result enter into the present of this Creator with great joy and no longer battles with this sinful nature (it now being gone), and is now in a place where there is no more pain or sorrow.....
if this Creator could have prevented this someone from entering into such joy, etc, but did not prevent it, does this make this Creator evil?
Nah.
So let's assume that if a tree fell on a house and killed someone, and your "god" could have prevented it, does that make your "god" Evil? because he didn\t stop that tree?
Obviously in this life, the evil can prosper while those who do good may suffer. So, we can see evil is not always dealt with in this life.
You are an intellectually challenged emotional cripple who hides his mental deficiencies behind a religious label "christian".You have no moral compass; you can't even tell up from down. "Wicked" is what you learned last week in Sunday School, in whatever superstitious beliefs system you learned it, in whatever "hell" your religious brain washers programmed you to believe.
Do you honestly think anyone cares for your opinion?
I believe that if one is "wicked".......he is dealt with in this life. It's called karma.I do not believe that there's a judgemental "god" who sits on a throne and passes sentence on his "creations"......
So that either means you believe 'god' is ok with the wicked, or...that 'god' does not exist. If the latter, then, what makes someone wicked? If there is no absolute standard, then are you saying that Hitler is wicked by one standard, not so by another, and who is anyone to judge which standard is wrong?
Life is not fair.
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