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Quote from: teramit on September 16, 2018, 05:16:13 PM

When price drops over and over everybody thinks that is bad and their invesment is going to loose or they already in loose. Generally this causes loosing hope to that coin, and people generally sell and exit from market.This maybe great for manipulators because they want to control market. right now there is a resistance to manipulators and this causes manipulators to gain less. they earn with volatility and it is decreasing as you can see in yearly graph. so best option for manips is reducing volume so that they gain more control. And for to reduce volume they create hopelessness by lowering price. When you see price is going well to high points you feel better but they cut your dreams with a steep fall like just a few days ago. investors sells or waits that cause reduced volume. And when the volume decreases they can ride the price easily.

Who are these manipulators, has anyone seen even one alive? Well, I don't quite deny there is market manipulation going on from time to time, but to explain every price move, every fucking price twitch by deliberate manipulation is bordering on paranoid or outright insane. If we look at major price moves, such as the rise to 20k and the following crash to 6k and below, that had nothing to do with manipulation. This was market unleashed at its full force. No manipulation would be able to achieve such astonishing (or frustrating, for that matter) results.

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Quote from: teramit on September 16, 2018, 05:16:13 PM

When price drops over and over everybody thinks that is bad and their invesment is going to loose or they already in loose. Generally this causes loosing hope to that coin, and people generally sell and exit from market.This maybe great for manipulators because they want to control market. right now there is a resistance to manipulators and this causes manipulators to gain less. they earn with volatility and it is decreasing as you can see in yearly graph. so best option for manips is reducing volume so that they gain more control. And for to reduce volume they create hopelessness by lowering price. When you see price is going well to high points you feel better but they cut your dreams with a steep fall like just a few days ago. investors sells or waits that cause reduced volume. And when the volume decreases they can ride the price easily.

Yes Indeed! Those big whales are making fun of those small traders that is weak and scared of the small pullback and then those whales tries to make them comeback again and just make it all over again.

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At this time , the best solution is to enter the market , so in the future it will begin to grow, and production as it was and continues on the same scale even when the price fell.

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well, its true there is manipulation by large whale or you can call them as institutes who tries to manipulate the market as per their demand to gain more and more profits. Money is the cause which makes them greedy and they try to lower the price to buy at less price and then again pump the coin to sell it at a high price. An individual person can not manipulate the market because of having less amount of coins. Only a group of people/institutes can go at too much extent to control the market as per their own will, and hence a result a common man loses its investment.

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I think it is impossible if bitcoin can be manipulated, because the price of bitcoin is up and down is determined by the purchase and sale of the users, and the sale of bitcoin is done on exchangers, and the exchanger cannot manipulate prices. because this is crypotcurrency prices can only be determined by requests and offers. prices will automatically follow. supply and demand can be said to be unbalanced. if many bidding requests are less, the price of the coin will increase, on the contrary if there is less demand, many offers will cause the coin price to drop

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They want to control the price movement of each coin so that they can make profit in it. They're not fair because they can dump and pump the price they want. That is the reason why SEC don't want to approve BtC because of the manipulation.

I really do not think that there are as many manipulators as people think, there are speculators, but there are not a lot of people that have the coins to move the market as they please, what the speculators are looking for is just to make profits and they do this in several ways, one way is just to have insider information about the developments of different coins or about what the exchanges are going to do with the policies that they are going to implement, that helps them make a lot of money without having to manipulate the market.

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yes, it's true. and the only people who can manipulate the market are the richest or the whales. the amount of bitcoin, for example, to drive down the price is great.

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Quote from: ocid on September 26, 2018, 10:39:11 AM

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Crypto market manipulators are motivated by one factor- the desire to make profit at the expense of others, they are usually whales with so much influence and have the resources to create tension or panic in the market because they know people starrt making irrational decisions when that happens, they can then buy lower and sell when the fears are gone

yes, i agree with you some big players do market manipulation of course with the aim of wanting to get big profits. this is what causes psychologically to make people who are just playing in the crypto world become desperate so that the pope easily plays a role by manipulating prices in the crypto market.

If most of the traders will continue to allow this manipulators to decide where the market to go they will keep gaining lots of profits inside this market, there's a need for people inside the trading business to realize and do a deeper study, market can be dictated if players will let big bag holders to continue dictating the price, but if they won't go along the flow value will hold and no manipulations can be done.

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The most common direction - the manipulator helps to increase the rate of the asset, and then sells them to the buyer at an increased price.

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Crypto market manipulators are motivated by one factor- the desire to make profit at the expense of others, they are usually whales with so much influence and have the resources to create tension or panic in the market because they know people starrt making irrational decisions when that happens, they can then buy lower and sell when the fears are gone

yes, i agree with you some big players do market manipulation of course with the aim of wanting to get big profits. this is what causes psychologically to make people who are just playing in the crypto world become desperate so that the pope easily plays a role by manipulating prices in the crypto market.

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I were the manipulator then I only want to make the price of bitcoin drops because I can sell my coins with a good amount and when it drops I can buy with cheap price wherein I can earn from it.

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Quote from: btc_angela on September 26, 2018, 10:11:30 AM

When we heard manipulator, one thing that comes to my mind is that they want to control the price to their favour. I'm pretty sure that this is the goal of whales or manipulators in the market. They want the price to be really cheap so that they can bought a lot of coins and then somewhat pump it a bit to lay their bull trap and they will cash out taking with them their profits then rinse and repeat.

Absolutely you are right, these manipulators or let say big whales are always trying to manipulate the price in the market some of them pay those social media broadcasters to spread a FUD news so that it will have a big effect in the market. When the panic seller believed their news they laugh because they know that they have a profit when the market is down.

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When we heard manipulator, one thing that comes to my mind is that they want to control the price to their favour. I'm pretty sure that this is the goal of whales or manipulators in the market. They want the price to be really cheap so that they can bought a lot of coins and then somewhat pump it a bit to lay their bull trap and they will cash out taking with them their profits then rinse and repeat.

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Quote from: teramit on September 16, 2018, 05:16:13 PM

When price drops over and over everybody thinks that is bad and their invesment is going to loose or they already in loose. Generally this causes loosing hope to that coin, and people generally sell and exit from market.This maybe great for manipulators because they want to control market. right now there is a resistance to manipulators and this causes manipulators to gain less. they earn with volatility and it is decreasing as you can see in yearly graph. so best option for manips is reducing volume so that they gain more control. And for to reduce volume they create hopelessness by lowering price. When you see price is going well to high points you feel better but they cut your dreams with a steep fall like just a few days ago. investors sells or waits that cause reduced volume. And when the volume decreases they can ride the price easily.

That's true, Manipulator loves to see a big depth from the market cap. because they can control the price of bitcoin by holding huge amount of bitcoin. Then all of the sadden they will sell it and when they notice that a lot of people get on their trap they will buy it again and hold for the long time that how manipilator always do.

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The main goal of manipulators is to make so that a lot of people buy bitcoin, the more people enter the project, the faster the price will start to grow.

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Quote from: supermine on September 24, 2018, 09:02:41 AM

Its simple they want to control the market and ultimately looking to make money,but we are the one wh let us the manipulators to do their work if we are not trusting the cryptos or the bitcoin then it will be better to completely quit from the cryptos other than just dumping and bumping their coin and involved in panic selling and buying.

right, basically they want to make a big profit, by manipulating prices. but with increasing number of bitcoiners, they provide feedback and are then forwarded to positive or negative news, according to their goals

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I agree that there are people who have a very large amount of coins, but I do not think that they greatly affect the market!

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Its simple they want to control the market and ultimately looking to make money,but we are the one wh let us the manipulators to do their work if we are not trusting the cryptos or the bitcoin then it will be better to completely quit from the cryptos other than just dumping and bumping their coin and involved in panic selling and buying.

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Quote from: ausbit on September 22, 2018, 06:02:20 AM

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they want personal gain. by selling all the assets they have when prices rise, they get big profits and then the price is dumped. they buy again when the price is cheap in large quantities, and make the price back at the pump and they sell it again.

Apparently, everyone wants gain but how you do it to get the gain is what makes the whales different here. Whales do not trade like we do; they trade people's emotion on the chart. They know when they should be getting in and when they should be scaring people out and all these is usually a rinse and repeat process for them.

The thing here is that, they are more like the market makers and since they have a lot of money to play around with and most especially in a speculative market, it even makes the whole process an easy one for them.

Whales have a one step ahead in the markets, we shouldn't doubting the experience they have. The low market cap cryptocurrencies markets has and combined with a lot of inexperienced traders make them a beast to control the market.

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Quote from: arin_muah on September 17, 2018, 04:20:18 AM

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Quote from: teramit on September 16, 2018, 05:16:13 PM

When price drops over and over everybody thinks that is bad and their invesment is going to loose or they already in loose. Generally this causes loosing hope to that coin, and people generally sell and exit from market.This maybe great for manipulators because they want to control market. right now there is a resistance to manipulators and this causes manipulators to gain less. they earn with volatility and it is decreasing as you can see in yearly graph. so best option for manips is reducing volume so that they gain more control. And for to reduce volume they create hopelessness by lowering price. When you see price is going well to high points you feel better but they cut your dreams with a steep fall like just a few days ago. investors sells or waits that cause reduced volume. And when the volume decreases they can ride the price easily.

If hodler not panic with negatives news and fake news, i am believe manipulator can not do anything. Manipulator can be success on their work if hodler panic and selling their coin with cheap price. They just want buying crypto with cheaper price and after that they will make big profits from it

manipulator always trying hard to make all people panic, especially new investor that did not understand market cylce.their purpose to do this was only to get cheapest price as they can.

Yes they manipulate crypto price because they want people panic and sell their coins so manipulators will buy coins as much as they want. I think the current condition is not just make people panic but it also can be causes people loss their interest to crypto, if that happen it will make crypto enthusiasts continue to decrease.

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