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Quote from: Dondont on September 19, 2018, 11:33:16 AM

Quote from: teramit on September 16, 2018, 05:16:13 PM

When price drops over and over everybody thinks that is bad and their invesment is going to loose or they already in loose. Generally this causes loosing hope to that coin, and people generally sell and exit from market.This maybe great for manipulators because they want to control market. right now there is a resistance to manipulators and this causes manipulators to gain less. they earn with volatility and it is decreasing as you can see in yearly graph. so best option for manips is reducing volume so that they gain more control. And for to reduce volume they create hopelessness by lowering price. When you see price is going well to high points you feel better but they cut your dreams with a steep fall like just a few days ago. investors sells or waits that cause reduced volume. And when the volume decreases they can ride the price easily.

In my view these manipulators only work by creating triggers so that they really do not control prices as a whole and at certain points, they only make FUDs at a certain time, then let the market go down until it passes the expected point, after which they also have taken step, they prepare good info to raise prices again

The manipulators may not actually be able to affect the market as much
as we think but they are able to take advantage of the FOMO and FUD in
the markets at certain times.

Its like skilled traders, to be able to react to movements and forsee what
will happen. Timing is everything.

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Quote from: teramit on September 16, 2018, 05:16:13 PM

When price drops over and over everybody thinks that is bad and their invesment is going to loose or they already in loose. Generally this causes loosing hope to that coin, and people generally sell and exit from market.This maybe great for manipulators because they want to control market. right now there is a resistance to manipulators and this causes manipulators to gain less. they earn with volatility and it is decreasing as you can see in yearly graph. so best option for manips is reducing volume so that they gain more control. And for to reduce volume they create hopelessness by lowering price. When you see price is going well to high points you feel better but they cut your dreams with a steep fall like just a few days ago. investors sells or waits that cause reduced volume. And when the volume decreases they can ride the price easily.

You have just stated the functioning of whales, and I guess that by now almost everyone understands how this market works
So, in future, even if the market gets too high, do not get very positive, and it is better to sell your investments after earning a fair bit of profit. Being greedy will hurt you more than anything else here. Only the smart one wins.

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Quote from: teramit on September 16, 2018, 05:16:13 PM

When price drops over and over everybody thinks that is bad and their invesment is going to loose or they already in loose. Generally this causes loosing hope to that coin, and people generally sell and exit from market.This maybe great for manipulators because they want to control market. right now there is a resistance to manipulators and this causes manipulators to gain less. they earn with volatility and it is decreasing as you can see in yearly graph. so best option for manips is reducing volume so that they gain more control. And for to reduce volume they create hopelessness by lowering price. When you see price is going well to high points you feel better but they cut your dreams with a steep fall like just a few days ago. investors sells or waits that cause reduced volume. And when the volume decreases they can ride the price easily.

In my view these manipulators only work by creating triggers so that they really do not control prices as a whole and at certain points, they only make FUDs at a certain time, then let the market go down until it passes the expected point, after which they also have taken step, they prepare good info to raise prices again

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Your point of view is totally different. Manipulators just want to promote panic selling by spreading FUD in the market so that they could buy coins at a much cheaper price and sell it when the price rises. And they don't want to lessen the volume of investors to control the market.

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Most probably all are up for a show and a bull trap, when everyone see that it's rising many will buy and trap on that price as whales are pulling it on the floor. So people poorly hang on fhe ceiling and planning to jump and kill their selves. So as much as possible don't give your money to whales as they love to see us crying.

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What they simply want is to always play with the minds of the gullible ones and make them lose for them to gain. Unfortunately, due to lack of knowledge and speculative environment it makes it easy for the gullible ones to fall prey and for the whales to always see an opportunity to keep manipulating. This is the reason why real life usage rather than having speculative assets in our hands is the best way to go.

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As the great investor Warren Buffett says, "Be fearful when others are greedy and be greedy when others are fearful". The big whales and institutional investors are aware of the fact that market is still immature and hence they can manipulate in a way they want to earn maximum profit from the situation arising from it. The possibility of making a maximum profit is the only want of the manipulators.

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if we think about it manipulators can be great to have them it is a good thing that the price will became low because that will attracte more investers and that wil make the market more alive holders will get involved too because they are afraid and the new investers will have the chance to join.

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Manipulators are investors who are always targeting more earnings because they are people who control the market. These investors, who have an effective power on the market with their consistently high capital, generally want to create uncertainty by creating fluctuations in the market. Especially those who are actively trading to reduce prices are those who aim to make new investments at a lower price with a new wave of panic. For that reason, these traps that people do not fall into this trap and falling into this trap is a mistake that we should not all do.

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Nothings new with the concern since its a hopeless case about the manipulation that is happening long time ago but getting worst as time passes by.

I love your motive here to awaken the weak handed people and the panicking investors for not to give consent the manipulators to play the market and help the people boost morals for holding in time of dip

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Quote from: teramit on September 16, 2018, 05:16:13 PM

When price drops over and over everybody thinks that is bad and their invesment is going to loose or they already in loose. Generally this causes loosing hope to that coin, and people generally sell and exit from market.This maybe great for manipulators because they want to control market. right now there is a resistance to manipulators and this causes manipulators to gain less. they earn with volatility and it is decreasing as you can see in yearly graph. so best option for manips is reducing volume so that they gain more control. And for to reduce volume they create hopelessness by lowering price. When you see price is going well to high points you feel better but they cut your dreams with a steep fall like just a few days ago. investors sells or waits that cause reduced volume. And when the volume decreases they can ride the price easily.

Yes they want to be the ones that are controlling the market and they also want to be the ones that are making the huge profit. This is just like in the real world politics, our leaders wants to continue to be the leaders like forever and they keep on deceiving us and stealing from us they never want to come down for the youths to get in, rather they remain there till they die lol. Well, I just wish there is a way we can get rid of these price manipulators.

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The main thing that drives the players of the Crypto market/manipulators to manipulate bitcoin prices is to obtain large amounts of Bitcoin. For most people, it is clear that the bitcoin market is at least controlled by two market participants and we can call it an evil actor. A study found that at least 600,000 bitcoin (BTC) worth $ 188 million was obtained incorrectly. This caused an unprecedented USD-BTC rate hike.

This market manipulation can be anticipated if bitcoin is considered a serious matter by the government as in Japan, legalize the existence of Crypto currency. There must be rules to be able to improve security even though we know that in principle Crypto is decentralized.

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I think that now there is a reverse effect after the hype in the past year. It is unknown how this will affect the market as a whole, but I hope that there will not be so many scammers.

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The manipulators take advantage of the good mind of the little investors to make money. Manipulators are the people that are destroyed this market and we need to understand there way in other to be able to play this game with them.

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Quote from: teramit on September 16, 2018, 05:16:13 PM

When price drops over and over everybody thinks that is bad and their invesment is going to loose or they already in loose. Generally this causes loosing hope to that coin, and people generally sell and exit from market.This maybe great for manipulators because they want to control market. right now there is a resistance to manipulators and this causes manipulators to gain less. they earn with volatility and it is decreasing as you can see in yearly graph. so best option for manips is reducing volume so that they gain more control. And for to reduce volume they create hopelessness by lowering price. When you see price is going well to high points you feel better but they cut your dreams with a steep fall like just a few days ago. investors sells or waits that cause reduced volume. And when the volume decreases they can ride the price easily.

Manipulators are obviously making the price of cryptocurrency to drop even more in order for them to invest a huge amount, that is the reason you should not sell your coins today.

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Quote from: erominer on September 16, 2018, 06:07:49 PM

yes you are right about your idea of these manipulators if there is, but at some point they believe in the future of cryptocurrencies that is why they keep on coming back as soon as the price drops and volumes thins

I don't even believe that manipulators would be doing whatever they are doing because they believe in cryptocurrency or that, they are already manipulating because they believe in it. I think it is just a business idea for them which is necessitated by also hodling a or some coins, or having other interest in cryptocurrency.

They want to make money from cryptocurrency not only by investing but also by raising some level of panic to catch on such advantage.

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I believe that the current drop in prices will only benefit the market in the long term. The hype of last year only attracted a huge number of scammers and brought turmoil to the market. I think after this year the situation will stabilize.

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they want personal gain. by selling all the assets they have when prices rise, they get big profits and then the price is dumped. they buy again when the price is cheap in large quantities, and make the price back at the pump and they sell it again.

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I have watch some altcoins order books which I trade, It makes me scared and at times will have to spend 3 hrs monitoring the market. They will bring on a fake sell order for you to think the market is going to dump real bad, immediately you sell out of fear for the hope of buying high, boom that is it, the market pumps. Other times, they set fake buy orders in several prices and one will think, wow! is going to shoot up real well, but after a while when buy volumes are enough to take profit, they offload, and there you go, they just took the profit. I have learnt never to follow the whales, when I get suspicious I stay off the market holding my bitcoin till the market is settled. Manipulators are dangerous in this space. Although they are found everywhere.

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Quote from: tanzaholzmann on September 16, 2018, 08:27:39 PM

I will try to think positively, I hope manipulators reduce asset prices aiming to get small investors like me and after getting small investors at the lowest prices the manipulators raise prices.

Well, that depends on how smart the smaller investors are, but as crazy as it sounds, small investors are always the ones who panic easily rather than buying the dips, and then when the market is in a state where it keeps going up, they start buying instead and joining FOMO in the process. The market is highly speculative and there is no doubt about that, which would always make it easy for the manipulators, but it is always better to know that irrespective of these manipulations, the future is still intact and that is what you should be placing your focus on.

Making traders feel uncertainty is the essence at which the manipulation comes into play in the first place. More like trying to scare away the weak hands in the market to dump so they can buy a whole lot lower, or at the same time, trying to instigate FOMO so that some greedy investors who want to get rich overnight will hop into the front of the moving train and then squash their hope.

All is about the whales making profit over emotions in the market and with the crypto market that is decentralized, it just make that seems so easy.

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