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legendary
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July 21, 2016, 02:24:33 PM
Now, we the military, have all kinds of weapons and devices that public doesn't have a clue about.

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That goes both ways.

You think the patriots stopped prepping, and just drink beer/watch sports in their garages/workshops/militia compounds?

Good.  Keep believing that.   Wink

What? Preppers have sonar cannon, and lasers that can take out ICBMs?

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legendary
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July 21, 2016, 01:14:44 PM
Now, we the military, have all kinds of weapons and devices that public doesn't have a clue about.

Cool

That goes both ways.

You think the patriots stopped prepping, and just drink beer/watch sports in their garages/workshops/militia compounds?

Good.  Keep believing that.   Wink

I hope people take a broader view of 'arms' then those which are conventionally considered as such.  That is, those which cause physical effects through release of energy.  Surveillance technologies available to individuals or small groups can be as much of a force multiplier to them as it can be to the larger nation state or global entities.  Then there are such things as cryptography and the big kahuna (in my book), Bitcoin itself or similar.  A viable alternative to the nation state (or globally) defined monetary solution is, I believe, the most effective 'weapon' the masses could have at their disposal in the struggle against tyranny.  Hopefully we'll never see why I believe that, but it's worth tucking away in one's mind as we all move forward along our respective paths.

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July 21, 2016, 12:17:46 PM
Now, we the military, have all kinds of weapons and devices that public doesn't have a clue about.

Cool

That goes both ways.

You think the patriots stopped prepping, and just drink beer/watch sports in their garages/workshops/militia compounds?

Good.  Keep believing that.   Wink
legendary
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July 20, 2016, 01:11:37 AM
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July 19, 2016, 09:02:20 PM

The Futility of an Armed Revolt


Not this shit again!   Roll Eyes



What good can a handgun do against an Army


By Mike Venderboegh, Added May 1999

http://www.jeffhead.com/liberty/handgun.htm

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So finally we are faced with, we must return to, the moral component of the question: "What good can a handgun do against an army?" The answer is "Nothing," or "Everything." The outcome depends upon the mind and heart and soul of the man or woman who holds it. One may also ask, "What good can a sling in the hands of a boy do against a marauding giant?" If your cause is just and righteous much can be done, but only if you are willing to risk the consequences of failure and to bear the burdens of eternal vigilance.

A new friend of mine gave me a plaque the other day. Upon it is written these words by Winston Churchill, a man who knew much about fighting tyranny:

    "Still, if you will not fight for the right when you can easily win without bloodshed; if you will not fight when your victory will be sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Winston Churchill

The Spartans at Thermopolae knew this. The fighting Jews of Masada knew this, when every man, woman and child died rather than submit to Roman tyranny. The Texans who died at the Alamo knew this. The frozen patriots of Valley Forge knew this. The "expendable men" of Bataan and Corregidor knew this. If there is one lesson of Hitlerism and the Holocaust, it is that free men, if they wish to remain free, must resist would-be tyrants at the first opportunity and at every opportunity. Remember that whether they the come as conquerors or elected officials, the men who secretly wish to be your murderers must first convince you that you must accept them as your masters. Free men and women must not wait until they are "selected", divided and herded into Warsaw Ghettos, there to finally fight desperately, almost without weapons, and die outnumbered.

The tyrant must be met at the door when he appears. At your door, or mine, wherever he shows his bloody appetite. He must be met by the pistol which can defeat an army. He must be met at every door, for in truth we outnumber him and his henchmen. It matters not whether they call themselves Communists or Nazis or something else. It matters not what flag they fly, nor what uniform they wear. It matters not what excuses they give for stealing your liberty, your property or your life. "By their works ye shall know them."

The time is late. Those who once has trouble reading the hour on their watches have no trouble seeing by the glare of the fire at Waco. Few of us realized at the time that the Constitution was burning right along with the Davidians. Now we know better.

We have had the advantage of that horrible illumination for more than five years now-- five years in which the rule of law and the battered old parchment of our beloved Constitution have been smashed, shredded and besmirched by the Clintonistas. In this process they have been aided and abetted by the cowardly incompetence of the "opposition" Republican leadership, a fact made crystal clear by the Waco hearings. They have forgotten Daniel Webster's warning: "Miracles do not cluster. Hold on to the Constitution of the United States of America and the Republic for which it stands-- what has happened once in six thousand years may never happen again. Hold on to your Constitution, for if the American Constitution shall fail there will be anarchy throughout the world."

Yet being able to see what has happened has not helped us reverse, or even slow, the process. The sad fact is that we may have to resign ourselves to the prospect of having to maintain our principles and our liberty in the face of becoming a disenfranchised minority within our own country.

The middle third of the populace, it seems, will continue to waffle in favor of the enemies of the Constitution until their comfort level with the economy is endangered. They've got theirs, Jack. The Republicans, who we thought could represent our interests and protect the Constitution and the rule of law, have been demonstrated to be political eunuchs. Alan Keyes was dead right when he characterized the last election as one between "the lawless Democrats and the gutless Republicans." The spectacular political failures of our current leaders are unrivaled in our history unless you recall the unprincipled jockeying for position and tragi-comedy of misunderstanding and miscommunication which lead to our first Civil War.

And make no mistake, it is civil war which may be the most horrible corollary of the Law of Unintended Consequences as it applies to the Clintonistas and their destruction of the rule of law. Because such people have no cause for which they are willing to die (all morality being relativistic to them, and all principles compromisable), they cannot fathom the motives or behavior of people who believe that there are some principles worth fighting and dying for. Out of such failures of understanding come wars. Particularly because although such elitists would not risk their own necks in a fight, they have no compunction about ordering others in their pay to fight for them. It is not the deaths of others, but their own deaths, that they fear. As a Christian, I cannot fear my own death, but rather I am commanded by my God to live in such a way as to make my death a homecoming. That this makes me incomprehensible and threatening to those who wish to be my masters is something I can do little about. I would suggest to them that they not poke their godless, tyrannical noses down my alley. As the coiled rattlesnake flag of the Revolution bluntly stated: "Don't Tread on Me!" Or, as our state motto here in Alabama says: "We Dare Defend Our Rights."

But can a handgun defeat an army? Yes. It remains to be seen whether the struggle of our generation against the tyrants of our day in the first decade of the 21st Century will bring a restoration of liberty and the rule of law or a dark and bloody descent into chaos and slavery.

That was almost 20 years ago.

Now/soon we'll have 3d printed AR-15s (aka Liberator 2.0).

Kill a pig, get a gun.

Kill a violator of Posse Comitatus, get a tank.
legendary
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July 19, 2016, 04:58:43 PM
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July 19, 2016, 11:36:40 AM
There can never be any actual barrier before access to a firearm. See: black market, human ingenuity

Any more laws at this point might as well say "we've infringed only you law-abiding, mentally-sound, sober people all the way just short of democide, now prepare to be executed".
i think gun control is such a big problem of the world now. i think most of the countries do not in the favour of gun control because these are the major gun producer countries and they are supplying gun to most of the countries of the world.
legendary
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July 19, 2016, 11:12:18 AM
There Will Be No Second American Revolution:
The Futility of an Armed Revolt






"A standing military force, with an overgrown Executive will not long be safe companions to liberty."—James Madison

America is a ticking time bomb.

All that remains to be seen is who—or what—will set fire to the fuse.

We are poised at what seems to be the pinnacle of a manufactured breakdown, with police shooting unarmed citizens, snipers shooting police, global and domestic violence rising, and a political showdown between two presidential candidates equally matched in unpopularity.

The preparations for the Republican and Democratic national conventions taking place in Cleveland and Philadelphia—augmented by a $50 million federal security grant for each city—provide a foretaste of how the government plans to deal with any individual or group that steps out of line: they will be censored, silenced, spied on, caged, intimidated, interrogated, investigated, recorded, tracked, labeled, held at gunpoint, detained, restrained, arrested, tried and found guilty.

For instance, anticipating civil unrest and mass demonstrations in connection with the Republican Party convention, Cleveland officials set up makeshift prisons, extra courtrooms to handle protesters, and shut down a local university in order to house 1,700 riot police and their weapons. The city's courts are preparing to process up to 1,000 people a day. Additionally, the FBI has also been conducting "interviews" with activists in advance of the conventions to discourage them from engaging in protests.

Make no mistake, the government is ready for a civil uprising.

Indeed, the government has been preparing for this moment for years.

A 2008 Army War College report revealed that "widespread civil violence inside the United States would force the defense establishment to reorient priorities in extremis to defend basic domestic order and human security." The 44-page report goes on to warn that potential causes for such civil unrest could include another terrorist attack, "unforeseen economic collapse, loss of functioning political and legal order, purposeful domestic resistance or insurgency, pervasive public health emergencies, and catastrophic natural and human disasters."

Subsequent reports by the Department of Homeland Security to identify, monitor and label right-wing and left-wing activists and military veterans as extremists (a.k.a. terrorists) have manifested into full-fledged pre-crime surveillance programs. Almost a decade later, after locking down the nation and spending billions to fight terrorism, the DHS has concluded that the greater threat is not ISIS but domestic right-wing extremism.

Meanwhile, the government has been amassing an arsenal of military weapons for use domestically and equipping and training their "troops" for war. Even government agencies with largely administrative functions such as the Food and Drug Administration, Department of Veterans Affairs, and the Smithsonian have been acquiring body armor, riot helmets and shields, cannon launchers and police firearms and ammunition. In fact, there are now at least 120,000 armed federal agents carrying such weapons who possess the power to arrest.

Rounding out this profit-driven campaign to turn American citizens into enemy combatants (and America into a battlefield) is a technology sector that is colluding with the government to create a Big Brother that is all-knowing, all-seeing and inescapable. It's not just the drones, fusion centers, license plate readers, stingray devices and the NSA that you have to worry about. You're also being tracked by the black boxes in your cars, your cell phone, smart devices in your home, grocery loyalty cards, social media accounts, credit cards, streaming services such as Netflix, Amazon, and e-book reader accounts.


Read more at http://www.thedailysheeple.com/there-will-be-no-second-american-revolution-the-futility-of-an-armed-revolt_072016.


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legendary
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July 18, 2016, 12:22:36 PM
The Government Will Not Protect You From Tractor Trailers





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As the Problem-Reaction-Solution (Nice edition) plays out as expected, it is time to remind ourselves: The government is not your daddy and it will not protect you from the boogeyman. The government creates the boogeyman to scare you. Giving more power to the government in the wake of every tragedy only incentivizes them to terrorize you further.


Read more and watch the excellent video at https://www.corbettreport.com/the-government-will-not-protect-you-from-tractor-trailers/. We need to do it ourselves, with our guns.


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legendary
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July 16, 2016, 03:19:10 PM
^^^ And now it is time to keep the guns, but to move on towards some homemade armament that makes the guns look like a kid playing on the beach.

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legendary
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July 16, 2016, 12:03:23 AM
There can never be any actual barrier before access to a firearm. See: black market, human ingenuity

Any more laws at this point might as well say "we've infringed only you law-abiding, mentally-sound, sober people all the way just short of democide, now prepare to be executed".
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July 15, 2016, 11:14:36 PM
Gun control can't be put in place in USA in my opinion.

But the important fact is that there is no reason to see gun control imposed to a population who doesn't want it or removed in a country where it is needed.
Just let USA with their guns if they want it :3

I think gun control must be implemented not only in the USA and the other country as well. There are lots of crimes occuring because of the gun. Private people shouldn't have guns as they didn't need that. Only the police, and other government officials are the one who need guns for protection. Well for me I don't need to have a gun and I don't want to have a gun anyways. Im contented to what I have now and besides, I dont need it anyway.
Why not do you say? What USA got to do with no gun control,it is a country same like each other countries on the world,so you mean that
no country in the world should even ban anything with guns? Gun control is needed,but only in some part for example,you cannot get automatic weapon,it is just stupid if you can.

Every country needs to step up their regulations, it doesn't have to be sanity tests yearly but those with criminal records definitely should have a few more barriers before access to a firearm. Everyone who owns a gun should have to have their criminal records rechecked yearly to know if they need to fill out the extra paperwork for having a firearm with a criminal record.
As much as I would like guns to be removed completely, I know this will never happen. At the minimum though there needs to be more laws around owning a firearm.
legendary
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July 15, 2016, 07:14:42 PM
Gun control can't be put in place in USA in my opinion.

But the important fact is that there is no reason to see gun control imposed to a population who doesn't want it or removed in a country where it is needed.
Just let USA with their guns if they want it :3

I think gun control must be implemented not only in the USA and the other country as well. There are lots of crimes occuring because of the gun. Private people shouldn't have guns as they didn't need that. Only the police, and other government officials are the one who need guns for protection. Well for me I don't need to have a gun and I don't want to have a gun anyways. Im contented to what I have now and besides, I dont need it anyway.
Why not do you say? What USA got to do with no gun control,it is a country same like each other countries on the world,so you mean that
no country in the world should even ban anything with guns? Gun control is needed,but only in some part for example,you cannot get automatic weapon,it is just stupid if you can.

Gun talk is fine. But it helps people to forget that there are many other things, some far more dangerous than guns... and far more available to average people, be they sane or not.

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legendary
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July 15, 2016, 07:14:27 PM
I think that any adult who is mentally healthy should have the right to have a gun. When laws do not permit to people have guns we end up only criminals have them and that is not fair.
Gun law in america is so loose that's why wether you are mentally healthy or not you can get a gun. The gun shop has also responsibility for this if they are not too tight on their terms then it's easy for people to get a gun.

You don't know what you are talking about.

The NCIS background check is always done by gun stores.  Period.
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July 15, 2016, 06:36:26 PM
Gun control can't be put in place in USA in my opinion.

But the important fact is that there is no reason to see gun control imposed to a population who doesn't want it or removed in a country where it is needed.
Just let USA with their guns if they want it :3

I think gun control must be implemented not only in the USA and the other country as well. There are lots of crimes occuring because of the gun. Private people shouldn't have guns as they didn't need that. Only the police, and other government officials are the one who need guns for protection. Well for me I don't need to have a gun and I don't want to have a gun anyways. Im contented to what I have now and besides, I dont need it anyway.
Why not do you say? What USA got to do with no gun control,it is a country same like each other countries on the world,so you mean that
no country in the world should even ban anything with guns? Gun control is needed,but only in some part for example,you cannot get automatic weapon,it is just stupid if you can.
legendary
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July 15, 2016, 12:22:45 PM
I think that any adult who is mentally healthy should have the right to have a gun. When laws do not permit to people have guns we end up only criminals have them and that is not fair.
Gun law in america is so loose that's why wether you are mentally healthy or not you can get a gun. The gun shop has also responsibility for this if they are not too tight on their terms then it's easy for people to get a gun.


And if these gun control freaks keep pushing, ALL the gun controls will go away. Why? Because American freedom is way more important than gun freedom. But guns are the way people enforce their freedom.

Government is stepping up its push towards gun control. The reason is, the Internet and other technologies are freeing people all over the world. Government and the elite are running out of time. This is the last chance they will have to take over before there is worldwide peace.

A Bitcoin government could bring that peace... a government locked into obedience by blockchain contract... so that government couldn't steal from the people. And people all over the world are waking up to the fact that Bitcoin is there for them, and governments will find it very difficult to force them to pay taxes if they use Bitcoin.

If guns aren't taken over by governments now, governments will basically go down the tubes. So, governments are stepping up their program to take guns away from the people. Gun ownership under controls is the baby start of it.

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July 15, 2016, 10:14:12 AM
I think that any adult who is mentally healthy should have the right to have a gun. When laws do not permit to people have guns we end up only criminals have them and that is not fair.
Gun law in america is so loose that's why wether you are mentally healthy or not you can get a gun. The gun shop has also responsibility for this if they are not too tight on their terms then it's easy for people to get a gun.
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July 15, 2016, 06:56:48 AM
Some people think guns are very bad because they generate violence, and many people kill themselves and kill other persons. The people who do not like guns always worry about them. Crime cases that involved guns are too many if you'll ask me and I think gun control ain't working even if it is strict and I agree with the reply above this. In my opinion having a gun is not a problem; the problem is what the people do when they use one and for what purpose they use it and the easiness for bad people to get or buy a gun.
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July 14, 2016, 02:12:32 PM
I think gun control must be implemented not only in the USA and the other country as well. There are lots of crimes occuring because of the gun. Private people shouldn't have guns as they didn't need that. Only the police, and other government officials are the one who need guns for protection.
This won't stop crime. We see that in countries where there is gun control.

Fact is:
- Criminals can order guns on-line and get them in mailbox
- Criminals can print guns
- Criminals can take guns from smuggling
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