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July 07, 2016, 05:54:39 AM
No one needs guns personally. Just the army needs to for war. Otherwise unless your a hunter there is no reason to have a gun personally.

Having guns personally makes some people to feel saved especially if they live in areas with high level of criminal. How else to protect themselves if government can't do that?
but most of the people are keeping it just for fun and just for showmen t. it in turn create problems. it can make a person more emotional. and in very minor issues it make people to use it. it is a fact that the use of gun is too easy to use. but when you use it against one one then it becomes beg issue to control it.
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July 04, 2016, 03:58:39 PM
No one needs guns personally. Just the army needs to for war. Otherwise unless your a hunter there is no reason to have a gun personally.

Having guns personally makes some people to feel saved especially if they live in areas with high level of criminal. How else to protect themselves if government can't do that?

The pen is stronger then the sword.
Just talk out conflicts, not shoot them out.

The gun is stronger than the pen.
Often people won't accept what is written.

Cool

Mass murders only successful in "gun-free zones". "Gun-free zone" signs work perfectly.

I dont think this is strictly true, there was a piece on radio 2 some time ago just after the shooting in California or wherever it was and they spoke and asked if there have actually ever been any times when a mass shooting has been stopped by a gun holder and no one phoned in to say there had. the only thing ive ever read about a legal gun holder stopping a mass shooting was the article baddecker posted earlier. Maybe it just never actuall makes the news.

I suspect that such events are downplayed.  The narrative pushed is gun control, and these events work in the opposite direction.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/RYANHATESTHIS/10-POTENTIAL-MASS-SHOOTINGS-THAT-WERE-STOPPED-BY-SOMEONE-WIT?utm_term=.cn0YEv7yA#.lspDgKpEG

actuall quite an interesting read. I imqgined there must be storys of it happening its just that you never really hear of them. But like you say, maybe its just downplayed alot of the time.
I suspect this is the case because you just about never hear of "heroes."  They exist, of course.  But they don't fit somehow.  Consider, also, what exactly causes "local news" to become "national or international news."  There's a filter there, a selection process. 

Some years ago there was a case in my city where a gang came into the courtyard of an apartment complex after a teenager.  Six of them, all armed.  What they didn't know was that the kid's dad was an Army sniper on leave.  He was very polite and asked them to leave, but when they didn't and the shooting started, there were six gang members crawling off or limping off, all shot in the wrists or ankles with a 22LR.

Maybe I'm nuts but that to me is perfect international or national news.  There's a hero, evil thwarted, teenager saved, and a sort of humor to it all. 

But they NEVER pick items like that.
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July 04, 2016, 03:30:39 PM
No one needs guns personally. Just the army needs to for war. Otherwise unless your a hunter there is no reason to have a gun personally.

Having guns personally makes some people to feel saved especially if they live in areas with high level of criminal. How else to protect themselves if government can't do that?

The pen is stronger then the sword.
Just talk out conflicts, not shoot them out.

The gun is stronger than the pen.
Often people won't accept what is written.

Cool

Mass murders only successful in "gun-free zones". "Gun-free zone" signs work perfectly.

I dont think this is strictly true, there was a piece on radio 2 some time ago just after the shooting in California or wherever it was and they spoke and asked if there have actually ever been any times when a mass shooting has been stopped by a gun holder and no one phoned in to say there had. the only thing ive ever read about a legal gun holder stopping a mass shooting was the article baddecker posted earlier. Maybe it just never actuall makes the news.

I suspect that such events are downplayed.  The narrative pushed is gun control, and these events work in the opposite direction.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/RYANHATESTHIS/10-POTENTIAL-MASS-SHOOTINGS-THAT-WERE-STOPPED-BY-SOMEONE-WIT?utm_term=.cn0YEv7yA#.lspDgKpEG

It's supposedly a big problem in science; the null set (when the simpler explanation is purely malicious revisionist history/malpractice/feigned innumeracy on the part of the vast minority of researchers who've focused on self-defense pros and cons). I'm not sure if this story is true since I heard it multi-hand away from the source, but:

The other Manhattan Project during WWII was a building or condo in Manhattan, where the world's greatest minds were gathered, so government/military officials could ask them advice. One of those minds was a statistician. He was presented with an exhaustive compilation of all the places on planes that had been struck by enemy bullets, and asked where the best place to put armor was. He answered immediately: all the places where the bullet holes aren't. Because all the planes that had been downed in enemy territory and unable to be recovered for analysis, had obviously been hit in those places. For the planes that were able to be studied for bullet hole locations, the pilot/copilot might have been hit, but they survived long enough to fly their plane back for analysis.

It's not a "mass shooting" if no mass (of people) was shot, only the first 3 or less victims, and possibly the intended mass murderer themself (either self-inflicted as is wont to happen when they see a gun pointing at them, or by a Good Samaritan aka "gun nut"). The most important thing is stopping a mass murderer instantly, so emergency medical aid/transport can be rendered. Most GSWs are survivable as long as those aren't delayed.
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July 04, 2016, 03:19:15 PM
No one needs guns personally. Just the army needs to for war. Otherwise unless your a hunter there is no reason to have a gun personally.

Having guns personally makes some people to feel saved especially if they live in areas with high level of criminal. How else to protect themselves if government can't do that?

The pen is stronger then the sword.
Just talk out conflicts, not shoot them out.

The gun is stronger than the pen.
Often people won't accept what is written.

Cool

Mass murders only successful in "gun-free zones". "Gun-free zone" signs work perfectly.

I dont think this is strictly true, there was a piece on radio 2 some time ago just after the shooting in California or wherever it was and they spoke and asked if there have actually ever been any times when a mass shooting has been stopped by a gun holder and no one phoned in to say there had. the only thing ive ever read about a legal gun holder stopping a mass shooting was the article baddecker posted earlier. Maybe it just never actuall makes the news.

I suspect that such events are downplayed.  The narrative pushed is gun control, and these events work in the opposite direction.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/RYANHATESTHIS/10-POTENTIAL-MASS-SHOOTINGS-THAT-WERE-STOPPED-BY-SOMEONE-WIT?utm_term=.cn0YEv7yA#.lspDgKpEG

actuall quite an interesting read. I imqgined there must be storys of it happening its just that you never really hear of them. But like you say, maybe its just downplayed alot of the time.
legendary
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July 04, 2016, 02:50:24 PM
No one needs guns personally. Just the army needs to for war. Otherwise unless your a hunter there is no reason to have a gun personally.

Having guns personally makes some people to feel saved especially if they live in areas with high level of criminal. How else to protect themselves if government can't do that?

The pen is stronger then the sword.
Just talk out conflicts, not shoot them out.

The gun is stronger than the pen.
Often people won't accept what is written.

Cool

Mass murders only successful in "gun-free zones". "Gun-free zone" signs work perfectly.

I dont think this is strictly true, there was a piece on radio 2 some time ago just after the shooting in California or wherever it was and they spoke and asked if there have actually ever been any times when a mass shooting has been stopped by a gun holder and no one phoned in to say there had. the only thing ive ever read about a legal gun holder stopping a mass shooting was the article baddecker posted earlier. Maybe it just never actuall makes the news.

I suspect that such events are downplayed.  The narrative pushed is gun control, and these events work in the opposite direction.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/RYANHATESTHIS/10-POTENTIAL-MASS-SHOOTINGS-THAT-WERE-STOPPED-BY-SOMEONE-WIT?utm_term=.cn0YEv7yA#.lspDgKpEG
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July 04, 2016, 02:23:01 PM
No one needs guns personally. Just the army needs to for war. Otherwise unless your a hunter there is no reason to have a gun personally.

Having guns personally makes some people to feel saved especially if they live in areas with high level of criminal. How else to protect themselves if government can't do that?

The pen is stronger then the sword.
Just talk out conflicts, not shoot them out.

The gun is stronger than the pen.
Often people won't accept what is written.

Cool

Mass murders only successful in "gun-free zones". "Gun-free zone" signs work perfectly.

I dont think this is strictly true, there was a piece on radio 2 some time ago just after the shooting in California or wherever it was and they spoke and asked if there have actually ever been any times when a mass shooting has been stopped by a gun holder and no one phoned in to say there had. the only thing ive ever read about a legal gun holder stopping a mass shooting was the article baddecker posted earlier. Maybe it just never actuall makes the news.
legendary
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July 04, 2016, 01:04:48 PM
No one needs guns personally. Just the army needs to for war. Otherwise unless your a hunter there is no reason to have a gun personally.

Having guns personally makes some people to feel saved especially if they live in areas with high level of criminal. How else to protect themselves if government can't do that?

The pen is stronger then the sword.
Just talk out conflicts, not shoot them out.

The gun is stronger than the pen.
Often people won't accept what is written.

Cool

Mass murders only successful in "gun-free zones". "Gun-free zone" signs work perfectly.
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July 04, 2016, 09:46:33 AM


Guns are made for one purpose, and that purpose is to kill.
I believe that guns are not weapons, they are tools. How they are used is up to the person holding it.
Guns are especially dangerous in the hands of people who don't know how to use them (i.e., kids and teenagers) as well as those who are mentally ill and/or have a temper problem.
Gun control will not stop violence because a violent person doesn’t need a gun to be violent.
After the Sandy Hook Elementary shooting in Newtown, Connecticut, support for gun control increased dramatically.

Generally in America, the support for gun control has outweighed the support for gun rights.
Are gun control laws constitutional?
What would be your ideal set of laws regarding firearms?



Banning guns for civil people is the worst thing the goverment may do...
Criminal always can get gun because he is a criminal! but civil person can not,so if criminal threatens him with a gun,he can only cry and hope the police will come ( they will in next 30 minutes,after u get shot and robbed ) . Knifes are not banned,but they are made also for killing people lol.
We should ban knifes!!!!!!! they may harm someone!!!!!!! just death penalty for killers=problem solved

yeah that's right , the government should allow the civilian to own a gun because not only the police needs it , we can consider it to the civil that guns are just for their protection because like what you have said the criminals are carrying firearms that is not licensed . and maybe death penalty would also a good solution for them if they made a crime .
legendary
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July 04, 2016, 09:36:21 AM


Guns are made for one purpose, and that purpose is to kill.
I believe that guns are not weapons, they are tools. How they are used is up to the person holding it.
Guns are especially dangerous in the hands of people who don't know how to use them (i.e., kids and teenagers) as well as those who are mentally ill and/or have a temper problem.
Gun control will not stop violence because a violent person doesn’t need a gun to be violent.
After the Sandy Hook Elementary shooting in Newtown, Connecticut, support for gun control increased dramatically.

Generally in America, the support for gun control has outweighed the support for gun rights.
Are gun control laws constitutional?
What would be your ideal set of laws regarding firearms?



Banning guns for civil people is the worst thing the goverment may do...
Criminal always can get gun because he is a criminal! but civil person can not,so if criminal threatens him with a gun,he can only cry and hope the police will come ( they will in next 30 minutes,after u get shot and robbed ) . Knifes are not banned,but they are made also for killing people lol.
We should ban knifes!!!!!!! they may harm someone!!!!!!! just death penalty for killers=problem solved

Train the whole population to be police and military, and you won't need to pay for a police department or the military.

Cool
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July 04, 2016, 09:31:37 AM


Guns are made for one purpose, and that purpose is to kill.
I believe that guns are not weapons, they are tools. How they are used is up to the person holding it.
Guns are especially dangerous in the hands of people who don't know how to use them (i.e., kids and teenagers) as well as those who are mentally ill and/or have a temper problem.
Gun control will not stop violence because a violent person doesn’t need a gun to be violent.
After the Sandy Hook Elementary shooting in Newtown, Connecticut, support for gun control increased dramatically.

Generally in America, the support for gun control has outweighed the support for gun rights.
Are gun control laws constitutional?
What would be your ideal set of laws regarding firearms?



Banning guns for civil people is the worst thing the goverment may do...
Criminal always can get gun because he is a criminal! but civil person can not,so if criminal threatens him with a gun,he can only cry and hope the police will come ( they will in next 30 minutes,after u get shot and robbed ) . Knifes are not banned,but they are made also for killing people lol.
We should ban knifes!!!!!!! they may harm someone!!!!!!! just death penalty for killers=problem solved
legendary
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July 04, 2016, 08:52:27 AM
At my opinion gun control is okay, cause it's prevent many accidents, many people have trouble with emotions and head, they should not own guns at my opinion.

this is common sense to most people, allow those who have reason and can be trusted to have guns, those that have anger issues/criminal records/mental conditions shouldn't be allowed to own guns for obvious reasons. Its simple, if you can stop the bad guys getting guns then do it.

This is called Gun Control  Grin

To say it shorter, gun control is people controlling other people.    Cool

My humble take on this is that government is controlling its people and avoid people from uprising against the government with the use of guns.

Come to think of it, if people can freely access to high powered guns and almost every individual get to have a possession of it, it would be difficult for the government forces to stop them when people are fed up with their government and want to overthrow an administration. It would be bloody as hell.

Well, I was just exaggerating. But isn't it make sense? I mean, the government are afraid of the people when it will convene and fight against the former, period.

Using the "gun control" advocate's logic:

No government with enough nuclear weapons to extinct the human race should be afraid enough of lesser weapons to feel the need to ban them for their own safety.

So logically, that only leaves government wanting to watch violent criminals safely victimize we the disarmed with impunity, so they can dance in our blood and on our graves as they "justify" disarming even more of we the people for violent criminals to safely victimize us.

Right!

In addition, what are police and the military? Are they simply not people? Yes. They are people. They are men and women.

Train the whole population to be police and military, and you won't need to pay for a police department or the military.

 Wink
legendary
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July 04, 2016, 08:49:44 AM
No one needs guns personally. Just the army needs to for war. Otherwise unless your a hunter there is no reason to have a gun personally.


Yes, only the army and hunters need guns to hunt disarmed humans with and commit genocide against us.

Until the perp comes back as a zombie, there's no need to discuss whether a jury would need to guarantee he will never possess any deadly weapon again. Which no jury as we know it could, as everything can be a deadly weapon, so the safest place to put a living or undead attempted or successful murderer is prison, where he will only be able to murder other murderers, and people who volunteer to guard murderers.

Has the jury reached a verdict?

Yes we have, Your Honor.

Will the Undead please rise?

LMFAO

No humans are hunted in my state unless its the gangsters hunting them but for that we have the police and they have gins.

The police ARE the gangsters.    Cool
legendary
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July 04, 2016, 08:48:50 AM
No one needs guns personally. Just the army needs to for war. Otherwise unless your a hunter there is no reason to have a gun personally.

Having guns personally makes some people to feel saved especially if they live in areas with high level of criminal. How else to protect themselves if government can't do that?

The pen is stronger then the sword.
Just talk out conflicts, not shoot them out.

The gun is stronger than the pen.
Often people won't accept what is written.

Cool
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July 03, 2016, 10:01:43 PM
No one needs guns personally. Just the army needs to for war. Otherwise unless your a hunter there is no reason to have a gun personally.

Having guns personally makes some people to feel saved especially if they live in areas with high level of criminal. How else to protect themselves if government can't do that?

The pen is stronger then the sword.
Just talk out conflicts, not shoot them out.
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July 03, 2016, 10:01:04 PM
No one needs guns personally. Just the army needs to for war. Otherwise unless your a hunter there is no reason to have a gun personally.


Yes, only the army and hunters need guns to hunt disarmed humans with and commit genocide against us.

Until the perp comes back as a zombie, there's no need to discuss whether a jury would need to guarantee he will never possess any deadly weapon again. Which no jury as we know it could, as everything can be a deadly weapon, so the safest place to put a living or undead attempted or successful murderer is prison, where he will only be able to murder other murderers, and people who volunteer to guard murderers.

Has the jury reached a verdict?

Yes we have, Your Honor.

Will the Undead please rise?

LMFAO

No humans are hunted in my state unless its the gangsters hunting them but for that we have the police and they have gins.
legendary
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July 03, 2016, 05:26:40 AM
At my opinion gun control is okay, cause it's prevent many accidents, many people have trouble with emotions and head, they should not own guns at my opinion.

this is common sense to most people, allow those who have reason and can be trusted to have guns, those that have anger issues/criminal records/mental conditions shouldn't be allowed to own guns for obvious reasons. Its simple, if you can stop the bad guys getting guns then do it.

This is called Gun Control  Grin

To say it shorter, gun control is people controlling other people.    Cool

My humble take on this is that government is controlling its people and avoid people from uprising against the government with the use of guns.

Come to think of it, if people can freely access to high powered guns and almost every individual get to have a possession of it, it would be difficult for the government forces to stop them when people are fed up with their government and want to overthrow an administration. It would be bloody as hell.

Well, I was just exaggerating. But isn't it make sense? I mean, the government are afraid of the people when it will convene and fight against the former, period.

Using the "gun control" advocate's logic:

No government with enough nuclear weapons to extinct the human race should be afraid enough of lesser weapons to feel the need to ban them for their own safety.

So logically, that only leaves government wanting to watch violent criminals safely victimize we the disarmed with impunity, so they can dance in our blood and on our graves as they "justify" disarming even more of we the people for violent criminals to safely victimize us.
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July 03, 2016, 01:15:18 AM
At my opinion gun control is okay, cause it's prevent many accidents, many people have trouble with emotions and head, they should not own guns at my opinion.

this is common sense to most people, allow those who have reason and can be trusted to have guns, those that have anger issues/criminal records/mental conditions shouldn't be allowed to own guns for obvious reasons. Its simple, if you can stop the bad guys getting guns then do it.

This is called Gun Control  Grin

To say it shorter, gun control is people controlling other people.    Cool

My humble take on this is that government is controlling its people and avoid people from uprising against the government with the use of guns.

Come to think of it, if people can freely access to high powered guns and almost every individual get to have a possession of it, it would be difficult for the government forces to stop them when people are fed up with their government and want to overthrow an administration. It would be bloody as hell.

Well, I was just exaggerating. But isn't it make sense? I mean, the government are afraid of the people when it will convene and fight against the former, period.

The usual method for civilised country's to get their government out of power if they don't like what their doing is to vote them out.  What hell hole do you live in that needs the people to arm themselves to overthrow their own elected government?
legendary
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July 03, 2016, 01:06:58 AM
This is a great idea. control gun use will make our lives comfortable. everyone civilians do not have access to a gun. retained control only of law enforcement officers. it will make our lives comfortable and happy. I fully support it.
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July 03, 2016, 12:32:07 AM
At my opinion gun control is okay, cause it's prevent many accidents, many people have trouble with emotions and head, they should not own guns at my opinion.

this is common sense to most people, allow those who have reason and can be trusted to have guns, those that have anger issues/criminal records/mental conditions shouldn't be allowed to own guns for obvious reasons. Its simple, if you can stop the bad guys getting guns then do it.

This is called Gun Control  Grin

To say it shorter, gun control is people controlling other people.    Cool

My humble take on this is that government is controlling its people and avoid people from uprising against the government with the use of guns.

Come to think of it, if people can freely access to high powered guns and almost every individual get to have a possession of it, it would be difficult for the government forces to stop them when people are fed up with their government and want to overthrow an administration. It would be bloody as hell.

Well, I was just exaggerating. But isn't it make sense? I mean, the government are afraid of the people when it will convene and fight against the former, period.
legendary
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July 02, 2016, 09:26:29 PM
At my opinion gun control is okay, cause it's prevent many accidents, many people have trouble with emotions and head, they should not own guns at my opinion.

this is common sense to most people, allow those who have reason and can be trusted to have guns, those that have anger issues/criminal records/mental conditions shouldn't be allowed to own guns for obvious reasons. Its simple, if you can stop the bad guys getting guns then do it.

This is called Gun Control  Grin

To say it shorter, gun control is people controlling other people.    Cool
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