Topic: What's your opinion of gun control? - page 112. (Read 450482 times)

sorry to say but I beleive that the elite run and rule the planet, they want to dissarm the public to make it easyer for them to control, so I want people to be able to obtain a gun for this reason only.

But not everyone should have one!, there has to be some filtering of possession.

it's not easy having that point of view from the UK as I have never seen a real gun, and most of the population here have not, and would prefer it that way, not me.

I might be wrong but... I'd say this debate is pure nonsense when you think about it.
EU has no gun. USA is full of guns. Both country can't really change their positions... A gun repression in USA would just create a timeframe with normal citizens having no guns and all criminals having huge reserve of guns, so nothing can really be done here...
While it would be completely dumb to insert guns in EU! There is much less crime and violence than in gun countries... Why wanting to change things but copying methods giving less results?

sorry to say but I beleive that the elite run and rule the planet, they want to dissarm the public to make it easyer for them to control, so I want people to be able to obtain a gun for this reason only.

But not everyone should have one!, there has to be some filtering of possession.

it's not easy having that point of view from the UK as I have never seen a real gun, and most of the population here have not, and would prefer it that way, not me.

In the wake of the worst mass shooting in US history, many Americans want to ban civilians from buying the AR-15, that ultra-popular, all-American killing tool. But in basements and garages around the country, another group of Americans is collecting the machines and materials to make those firearms in the privacy of their own homes. And for them, just as much as for gun control advocates, Orlando represents a call to arms.

Senate Democrats reacted to the massacre by filibustering until Republicans agreed to allow a vote on four gun control measures. Every measure failed on Monday night. But even fears of such legislation have lead gun owners to stock up on guns and ammunition after every mass shooting in recent history. And now a newer trend has emerged in the days since Omar Mateen killed 49 people with a handgun and a Sig Sauer MCX rifle: sales are spiking for the equipment and materials used by DIY gunsmiths to make their own, fully-functional, semi-automatic weapons.

Using power tools, chunks of aluminum, and cheap, consumer-grade digital gadgets, those firearm-focused members of the maker movement fabricate homemade weapons like AR-15s and AR-10s that skirt all regulation and would be untraceable in some imagined, future crackdown in which the government were to seize registered weapons. "People are hopping off the mainstream train and accepting an underground dissident mentality when it comes to guns," says Cody Wilson, the founder of the Austin, Texas-based DIY gun group Defense Distributed. "They're making the connection: If [an AR-15 ban] is enacted, I can get this machine and make one anyway."

Since the fall of 2014, Defense Distributed has sold approximately three thousand of the $1,500 devices it calls the Ghost Gunner, a computer-controlled, one-foot cubed milling machine designed to let anyone carve their own aluminum body of an AR-15 at home. Since all other parts of the gun can be bought without any regulation, the result is a lethal weapon that's free from background checks, waiting periods, serial numbers, or any other government involvement.

On a typical day, Defense Distributed sells four or five of its gun-making machines, according to Wilson. But on the day after the Orlando gun massacre, it sold seven. The second day after the killings, as Democratic senators were filibustering, it sold 11. In all, Defense Distributed's total revenue has jumped from around $30,000 a week to more than $50,000 last week, the most sales it's seen since the hype around the Ghost Gunner's initial launch 20 months ago.

Older methods of making an untraceable AR-15 are exploding, too. Santa Ana, California-based 80 Percent Arms, for instance, specializes in "80 percent lower receivers": bodies of AR-15s and AR-10s that are left 20 percent unfinished and thus unregulated. DIY gunsmiths can complete that last bit of machining themselves, with tools ranging from a Ghost Gunner's automated milling to a simple drill press and a set of jigs. The day of the Orlando shooting, 80 Percent Arms' sales spiked fivefold, then sixfold on the day after and sevenfold the day after that, says the company's president Tilden Smith. "When Obama gets on the air talking about gun control, that kicks off a buying frenzy. Everyone flips out," Smith says. "They're incentivized to get all the 80-percent stuff they can now, because they don't think they'll be able to get it next year."

Right. But the churches and the schools teach people to obey the laws. So, if they make laws that stop people from owning guns, then only the government and criminals will own the guns.

If this happens, it will be a lot easier for the government to get the guns away from their competition, the OTHER criminals.

Well IMO gun control laws are useless. Even if those laws exist, there's an illegal gun shops selling illegal guns and those laws cannot control it. Many others also doesn't follow the law that's why I think it is useless.

not all the time guns can destroy and kill the life , it is just because of those people who became overpowered just because they have a gun , and some people that has a criminal records are still owning a gun .

Guns means kill,destroy.
first you should think about sequrity and then think about it's misuse.people dying everybody. superpower countries should come forward for peace and for the human being.

Guns means kill,destroy.
first you should think about sequrity and then think about it's misuse.people dying everybody. superpower countries should come forward for peace and for the human being.

Guns means kill,destroy.
first you should think about sequrity and then think about it's misuse.people dying everybody. superpower countries should come forward for peace and for the human being.

My Opinion is, destroy all the Guns of the World...  

My Opinion is, destroy all the Guns of the World... 

Guns are made for one purpose, and that purpose is to kill.
I believe that guns are not weapons, they are tools. How they are used is up to the person holding it.
Guns are especially dangerous in the hands of people who don't know how to use them (i.e., kids and teenagers) as well as those who are mentally ill and/or have a temper problem.
Gun control will not stop violence because a violent person doesn’t need a gun to be violent.
After the Sandy Hook Elementary shooting in Newtown, Connecticut, support for gun control increased dramatically.

Generally in America, the support for gun control has outweighed the support for gun rights.
Are gun control laws constitutional?
What would be your ideal set of laws regarding firearms?

What's that supposed to mean?


Any facts that are facts that I speak of.



In the same breath you essentially call me out on nit picking while saying that you weren't going to call me out on stuff. When you are talking about gun control that holds the lives of people in the balance, nit picking is extremely important.

False flags may not hurt anybody directly, but if they push more gun control into existence, they nit pick at the core of what our whole government and way of life is built around... private property... to say nothing about the lives of those who are not able to defend themselves, because they don't have any guns to fight against the criminal element that comes against them with guns... to say nothing about protecting themselves from a criminal government.

Today Defense Distributed announces the official launch of the second generation of its Ghost Gunner CNC mill, the GG2. Over the last two years, and with volumes of input from our customers, we've slowly revised and revised our specifications, electronics and tools to create a more ideal version of our machine-- purpose-built for finishing AR and other firearm receivers.

We'd like to tell you a bit about the GG2, especially in the wake of recent events threatening our AR.


The AR is Forever.

Full GG2 specs and the manual can be found at ghostgunner.net. Since the release of GG1 we've focused on improving our continuous cutting power and finding the perfect end mill, depth of cut, cutting profiles and design tolerances to efficiently and repeatably complete the pocket milling required by AR receivers.

Remember and take a leaf out of you own book then.

So enlighten me, what facts is it you speak of? Are we still on topic of false flags?

And at no point in our conversation was i about to call you out for being dishonest, but nit picking just for the sake of it i certainly would as ive seen you do it many times before, and im more than sure thats what you've attempted to do with regards to false flags.