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June 20, 2016, 06:37:59 AM
From my experience,  not to bash on Americans but 99% of them should not be allowed firearms.  They all like to think they are experts in everything to do with guns but from what I've seen their gun safety is horrific,  if they must insist on carrying guns around and at home then at least keep them safely away from children and other unauthorised people.  They should learn to actually use them properly which extends to more than just pointing out in the right direction. 
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June 20, 2016, 06:31:09 AM
Gun control is just preventing some people to kill someone who do bad things to others. For me gun control can prevent few people.die because if they always check  or they always do.checkpoint they can prevent some hiring for kill group they can prevent killing people. And the small brother here in my country killed accidentally his brother because he think this gun is toy gun. So for me if they ban gun many people will not die.
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June 20, 2016, 03:49:59 AM



Seven-Year-Old Little Girl Shows Gersh Kuntzman How To Shoot AR-15







Published on Jun 16, 2016

Gersh Kuntzman of the New York Daily News wrote:

"What is it like to fire an AR-15? It’s horrifying, menacing and very, very loud. It felt to me like a bazooka — and sounded like a cannon. ... I’ve shot pistols before, but never something like an AR-15. Squeeze lightly on the trigger and the resulting explosion of firepower is humbling and deafening (even with ear protection). The recoil bruised my shoulder, which can happen if you don't know what you're doing. The brass shell casings disoriented me as they flew past my face. The smell of sulfur and destruction made me sick. The explosions — loud like a bomb — gave me a temporary form of PTSD. For at least an hour after firing the gun just a few times, I was anxious and irritable." - An adult man

"That was pretty good!" - Seven-year-old little girl Smiley





One of the lucky kids. Waking up to the reality of self-protection at an early age.

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June 20, 2016, 03:47:38 AM
Meanwhile in the third-world country of Australia (complain to Barack "no advanced developed country on earth" Obama about his characterization, not me), "gun control" worked, to ensure all manner of criminals are the only ones armed & send "gun violence" "out-of-control" this decade...

New plan unveiled to tackle out-of-control gun violence

COMBATING gun crime in NSW remains the top priority of the state's police force, senior officers announced on Wednesday.

In the past 12 months, more than 9000 guns have been taken off NSW streets and 3352 people have been charged as part of ongoing investigations by Strike Force Raptor and Operations Apollo and Spartan.

Unveiling a new plan to tackle out-of-control gun violence in Sydney on Wednesday, NSW Police Commissioner Andrew Scipione said all three strike forces had been brought together to form Operation Talon.

"There is no single source of gun crime violence...guns have fallen into the hands of organised crime, outlaw motorcycle gangs, mid-level crime groups and petty thieves and the lines are often blurred," Mr Scipione said

"That's why it is so important to focus on all these aspects in a unified way...pulling our resources together under the one banner we have that opportunity."

Poor government. All these little people with guns. Such unfair competition. Poor little government.

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June 19, 2016, 07:43:17 PM
Meanwhile in the third-world country of Australia (complain to Barack "no advanced developed country on earth" Obama about his characterization, not me), "gun control" worked, to ensure all manner of criminals are the only ones armed & send "gun violence" "out-of-control" this decade...

New plan unveiled to tackle out-of-control gun violence

COMBATING gun crime in NSW remains the top priority of the state's police force, senior officers announced on Wednesday.

In the past 12 months, more than 9000 guns have been taken off NSW streets and 3352 people have been charged as part of ongoing investigations by Strike Force Raptor and Operations Apollo and Spartan.

Unveiling a new plan to tackle out-of-control gun violence in Sydney on Wednesday, NSW Police Commissioner Andrew Scipione said all three strike forces had been brought together to form Operation Talon.

"There is no single source of gun crime violence...guns have fallen into the hands of organised crime, outlaw motorcycle gangs, mid-level crime groups and petty thieves and the lines are often blurred," Mr Scipione said

"That's why it is so important to focus on all these aspects in a unified way...pulling our resources together under the one banner we have that opportunity."
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June 19, 2016, 06:28:54 PM



Seven-Year-Old Little Girl Shows Gersh Kuntzman How To Shoot AR-15







Published on Jun 16, 2016

Gersh Kuntzman of the New York Daily News wrote:

"What is it like to fire an AR-15? It’s horrifying, menacing and very, very loud. It felt to me like a bazooka — and sounded like a cannon. ... I’ve shot pistols before, but never something like an AR-15. Squeeze lightly on the trigger and the resulting explosion of firepower is humbling and deafening (even with ear protection). The recoil bruised my shoulder, which can happen if you don't know what you're doing. The brass shell casings disoriented me as they flew past my face. The smell of sulfur and destruction made me sick. The explosions — loud like a bomb — gave me a temporary form of PTSD. For at least an hour after firing the gun just a few times, I was anxious and irritable." - An adult man

"That was pretty good!" - Seven-year-old little girl Smiley








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June 19, 2016, 03:43:25 AM
So i wonder then, For places like britain where firearms are extremely difficult to acquire as has been shown in the last few years(if you look at the lee rigby case  where the terrorists had to resort to an obsolete calibre weapon which actually failed to fire) Do you beleive that they should just start handing out firearm to any individual who wishes to have one? Because this in turn puts firearms into the hands of the very people we dont want to have access to firearms. This imo is why such strict firearms are in place. All it takes is 1 person with a firearm to commit a major atrocity. I know you will argue that more people with more guns would stop such atrocities but you just need to look at the recent and many mass shootings in america to see thats not really the case.

There is no shortage of guns among the organized criminal gangs in England (Somali, Pakistani, and Russian gangs). It is the ordinary people in England, who don't have access to guns. In fact, the number of illegal guns currently circulating in England (and especially in London) is increasing sharply for the past many years.

Not only the ordinary people in britain that cant get hold of guns but also the terrorists seem to be having major problems too, Even the organised criminal gangs are having problems. In the link i shared in a previous post it explains how two gangs had to rent the same gun from a third party to carry out a shooting against the other gang. If guns were so common the surely they would just have them lying about and it wouldnt be a problem. this shows that gun control does work albeit on an island where supply can be controlled easier.
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June 18, 2016, 11:36:23 PM
So i wonder then, For places like britain where firearms are extremely difficult to acquire as has been shown in the last few years(if you look at the lee rigby case  where the terrorists had to resort to an obsolete calibre weapon which actually failed to fire) Do you beleive that they should just start handing out firearm to any individual who wishes to have one? Because this in turn puts firearms into the hands of the very people we dont want to have access to firearms. This imo is why such strict firearms are in place. All it takes is 1 person with a firearm to commit a major atrocity. I know you will argue that more people with more guns would stop such atrocities but you just need to look at the recent and many mass shootings in america to see thats not really the case.

There is no shortage of guns among the organized criminal gangs in England (Somali, Pakistani, and Russian gangs). It is the ordinary people in England, who don't have access to guns. In fact, the number of illegal guns currently circulating in England (and especially in London) is increasing sharply for the past many years.
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June 18, 2016, 04:50:31 AM
anyone who has spent more than 3 years in jail will be banned from guns.

Not sure about that as well. As I pointed out in my earlier post, nowadays a lot of criminal convictions are forged. In UK, a rapist may be let off with a fine, while someone convicted for hate speech (the politically correct term for free speech) may get 5 or 6 years in jail. IMO, only the criminals who were convicted of violent crimes such as rape and murder should be denied gun ownership.

So i wonder then, For places like britain where firearms are extremely difficult to acquire as has been shown in the last few years(if you look at the lee rigby case  where the terrorists had to resort to an obsolete calibre weapon which actually failed to fire) Do you beleive that they should just start handing out firearm to any individual who wishes to have one? Because this in turn puts firearms into the hands of the very people we dont want to have access to firearms. This imo is why such strict firearms are in place. All it takes is 1 person with a firearm to commit a major atrocity. I know you will argue that more people with more guns would stop such atrocities but you just need to look at the recent and many mass shootings in america to see thats not really the case.
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June 17, 2016, 11:48:04 PM
IMO, people should be given the choice whether whey want to own a fire-arm or not. In places like Texas, where home invasions are very common, the possession of a fire-arm can save many lives. However, the government should make it impossible for people with a criminal record, and those with mental issues from obtaining fire-arms.

I agree with you. It could, in some parts of the world, be a tool to protect yourself, but weapons landing into people with an unstable temperament is an unsafe bet, and could lead to disasters.
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June 17, 2016, 11:00:25 PM
anyone who has spent more than 3 years in jail will be banned from guns.

Not sure about that as well. As I pointed out in my earlier post, nowadays a lot of criminal convictions are forged. In UK, a rapist may be let off with a fine, while someone convicted for hate speech (the politically correct term for free speech) may get 5 or 6 years in jail. IMO, only the criminals who were convicted of violent crimes such as rape and murder should be denied gun ownership.
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June 17, 2016, 10:38:53 PM
It is an issue around the world.  Today, it is just easy to kill and be dead because of those hot tempered, irresponsible owners of gun.  Even if the government requires everyone to have a permit and even if it is controlled it can still be produced.  There is a place here where they can manufacture gun and everyone can own it if you have money. 
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June 17, 2016, 08:06:28 PM
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Your map of London doesn't exactly say what kind of crimes these are,  are you assuming these are all murdurs?  These could be petty theft and graffiti for all we know?  Do you propose we shoot all the graffiti artists in the city?  And the map isn't making a direct comparison with anywhere,  compared to some states in america maybe that's next to no crime. Don't get me wrong,  it's London so i assume there's going to be crime,  i don't think shooting them all will help though.

Make the punishment fit the crime. But you do have a point, though. Executing all the illegal graffiti artists would stop them, either by there not being any artists left, or by the ones that are left being too afraid to continue.

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June 17, 2016, 06:16:02 PM
the government and the authority should not have to let people who have criminal record or those people who have a psychological disorders to possess a gun or any other firearms . and they should know if a person who wants to own a gun is capable to control his temper just to make sure that he will never become overpowered .

People with psychiatric issues must be banned from purchasing guns, but I don't agree with extending the ban to those with criminal convictions. Nowadays, a lot of the criminal charges are forged. In Germany, if you post in Facebook against the mass immigration of Arabs, then you will be arrested and put behind bars. Do such people deserve to be banned from gun possession? I don't think so.  

People with psychiatric issues should definitely be banned from purchasing or obtaining firearms and as for criminals, Anyone involved in a violent crime or perhaps like the uks policy, anyone who has spent more than 3 years in jail will be banned from guns. These are sensible means of gun control to sane people. Some people want it to be like the wild west though.  





http://maps.met.police.uk/




Excuse my ignorance but in what way does this reflect on gun control? you've linked me to a map showing that there is higher amounts of crime in london than the surrounding areas. I think this would be pretty obvious to most people without a map but what is it your trying to say here? Do you think everyone in london would be better off if they were shooting at each other?

Here, ive linked this since its relevant to a very recent shooting. notice how its a shock because guns are hard to source in the uk.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2016/06/16/what-the-fatal-attack-on-a-british-politician-says-about-guns-in-the-u-k/


No one should be excused for their ignorance if it was a choice that person made. You've used the wild west as a metaphor to illustrate, maybe, how crazy Americans are with their gun laws, or lack thereof. Cowboys, Indians, colt 45 vs bows and arrows?

I wanted to find out how wild West of London is today... According to police statistics it is indeed. Very.




Your map of London doesn't exactly say what kind of crimes these are,  are you assuming these are all murdurs?  These could be petty theft and graffiti for all we know?  Do you propose we shoot all the graffiti artists in the city?  And the map isn't making a direct comparison with anywhere,  compared to some states in america maybe that's next to no crime. Don't get me wrong,  it's London so i assume there's going to be crime,  i don't think shooting them all will help though.
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June 17, 2016, 05:40:19 PM
the government and the authority should not have to let people who have criminal record or those people who have a psychological disorders to possess a gun or any other firearms . and they should know if a person who wants to own a gun is capable to control his temper just to make sure that he will never become overpowered .

People with psychiatric issues must be banned from purchasing guns, but I don't agree with extending the ban to those with criminal convictions. Nowadays, a lot of the criminal charges are forged. In Germany, if you post in Facebook against the mass immigration of Arabs, then you will be arrested and put behind bars. Do such people deserve to be banned from gun possession? I don't think so.  

People with psychiatric issues should definitely be banned from purchasing or obtaining firearms and as for criminals, Anyone involved in a violent crime or perhaps like the uks policy, anyone who has spent more than 3 years in jail will be banned from guns. These are sensible means of gun control to sane people. Some people want it to be like the wild west though.  





http://maps.met.police.uk/




Excuse my ignorance but in what way does this reflect on gun control? you've linked me to a map showing that there is higher amounts of crime in london than the surrounding areas. I think this would be pretty obvious to most people without a map but what is it your trying to say here? Do you think everyone in london would be better off if they were shooting at each other?

Here, ive linked this since its relevant to a very recent shooting. notice how its a shock because guns are hard to source in the uk.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2016/06/16/what-the-fatal-attack-on-a-british-politician-says-about-guns-in-the-u-k/


No one should be excused for their ignorance if it was a choice that person made. You've used the wild west as a metaphor to illustrate, maybe, how crazy Americans are with their gun laws, or lack thereof. Cowboys, Indians, colt 45 vs bows and arrows?

I wanted to find out how wild West of London is today... According to police statistics it is indeed. Very.

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June 17, 2016, 05:12:45 PM
the government and the authority should not have to let people who have criminal record or those people who have a psychological disorders to possess a gun or any other firearms . and they should know if a person who wants to own a gun is capable to control his temper just to make sure that he will never become overpowered .

People with psychiatric issues must be banned from purchasing guns, but I don't agree with extending the ban to those with criminal convictions. Nowadays, a lot of the criminal charges are forged. In Germany, if you post in Facebook against the mass immigration of Arabs, then you will be arrested and put behind bars. Do such people deserve to be banned from gun possession? I don't think so.  

This is why we need some form of larger or extensive screening to even give permits to be a gun holder.

Its all varied by state to stay so its more of how each state can reform these situations.

I feel most of these things though are funded through the gun manufacturers to pay off lobbyist to keep where it is today..  to save sales.
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June 17, 2016, 05:02:45 PM
the government and the authority should not have to let people who have criminal record or those people who have a psychological disorders to possess a gun or any other firearms . and they should know if a person who wants to own a gun is capable to control his temper just to make sure that he will never become overpowered .

People with psychiatric issues must be banned from purchasing guns, but I don't agree with extending the ban to those with criminal convictions. Nowadays, a lot of the criminal charges are forged. In Germany, if you post in Facebook against the mass immigration of Arabs, then you will be arrested and put behind bars. Do such people deserve to be banned from gun possession? I don't think so.  

People with psychiatric issues should definitely be banned from purchasing or obtaining firearms and as for criminals, Anyone involved in a violent crime or perhaps like the uks policy, anyone who has spent more than 3 years in jail will be banned from guns. These are sensible means of gun control to sane people. Some people want it to be like the wild west though.  





http://maps.met.police.uk/




Excuse my ignorance but in what way does this reflect on gun control? you've linked me to a map showing that there is higher amounts of crime in london than the surrounding areas. I think this would be pretty obvious to most people without a map but what is it your trying to say here? Do you think everyone in london would be better off if they were shooting at each other?

Here, ive linked this since its relevant to a very recent shooting. notice how its a shock because guns are hard to source in the uk.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2016/06/16/what-the-fatal-attack-on-a-british-politician-says-about-guns-in-the-u-k/

The crooks steal from the people. More people are found in London than outside of it. If all the people in London had guns, they would shoot the crooks dead. Then there would be less crime in London. Why don't the people stop the crooks without using guns? The crooks are stronger, partially because some of them have guns. Guns are the equalizer.

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June 17, 2016, 02:32:06 PM
the government and the authority should not have to let people who have criminal record or those people who have a psychological disorders to possess a gun or any other firearms . and they should know if a person who wants to own a gun is capable to control his temper just to make sure that he will never become overpowered .

People with psychiatric issues must be banned from purchasing guns, but I don't agree with extending the ban to those with criminal convictions. Nowadays, a lot of the criminal charges are forged. In Germany, if you post in Facebook against the mass immigration of Arabs, then you will be arrested and put behind bars. Do such people deserve to be banned from gun possession? I don't think so.  

People with psychiatric issues should definitely be banned from purchasing or obtaining firearms and as for criminals, Anyone involved in a violent crime or perhaps like the uks policy, anyone who has spent more than 3 years in jail will be banned from guns. These are sensible means of gun control to sane people. Some people want it to be like the wild west though.  





http://maps.met.police.uk/




Excuse my ignorance but in what way does this reflect on gun control? you've linked me to a map showing that there is higher amounts of crime in london than the surrounding areas. I think this would be pretty obvious to most people without a map but what is it your trying to say here? Do you think everyone in london would be better off if they were shooting at each other?

Here, ive linked this since its relevant to a very recent shooting. notice how its a shock because guns are hard to source in the uk.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2016/06/16/what-the-fatal-attack-on-a-british-politician-says-about-guns-in-the-u-k/
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June 17, 2016, 02:31:13 PM
the government and the authority should not have to let people who have criminal record or those people who have a psychological disorders to possess a gun or any other firearms . and they should know if a person who wants to own a gun is capable to control his temper just to make sure that he will never become overpowered .

People with psychiatric issues must be banned from purchasing guns, but I don't agree with extending the ban to those with criminal convictions. Nowadays, a lot of the criminal charges are forged. In Germany, if you post in Facebook against the mass immigration of Arabs, then you will be arrested and put behind bars. Do such people deserve to be banned from gun possession? I don't think so. 

People with psychiatric issues should definitely be banned from purchasing or obtaining firearms and as for criminals, Anyone involved in a violent crime or perhaps like the uks policy, anyone who has spent more than 3 years in jail will be banned from guns. These are sensible means of gun control to sane people. Some people want it to be like the wild west though. 


a lot of people in jail unjustly, I saw a story of someone who was imprisoned for 13 years, accused of drug trafficking, but years later concluded that arrested the wrong person.

With his idea that woman would not have the right to carry a weapon to defend because it is criminal? because he was held for more than three years?

Imagine if a president of some country decided to turn dictator and begins to hold all that he does not like? as the civil citizen is defended?

Weapons are for defense, and in my opinion is to defend us against the state if someday become dictator.

There are many criminals, but all these criminals have something in common. Looking helpless people.
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