Topic: What's your opinion of gun control? - page 127. (Read 450471 times)

You have propaganda on the brain but thankfully ask questions that will reveal the logical errors which are always in propaganda.

The word is "semi-automatic."  Regarding the bolded, that is inaccurate.  Let me please explain something.

For the past 100 years or longer, yesterday's military weapon becomes today's hunting or personal protection weapon.

I believe most people would agree, AR15 variations are the most popular in the world for hunting, personal protection and so forth.  AK47 I don't know of it's use for hunting, but it could be in the West we don't hear of that, we only see it's use by "enemies."

Please learn about these things before voicing strong opinion as to what is "right."

Also note many things are illegal for average citizen - silencers, rifle barrels shorter than 14", machine gun, etc. etc.  In the USA some states have tried banning magazines with capacity higher than 10 rounds.  Those efforts I believe, everyone agrees have been failures.

Gun ban is just for a short term but gun control is a must for each country but no government can easily fight this problem because there are measurements on it. Criminals and terrorist won't even follow gun control rules they have own regulations when they're holding their guns

Gun ban is only fake safety. Criminals and terrorist always get guns. Do you think terror attacks do not happen outside of the US because of gun regulation? 

In one of the Asian countries province, 25 guns have been allowed legally but more than that is getting circulated in the province. This is how gun control is going on in several countries.

What's the point of owning a 4 bedroom house when there are only the two of you with no plans to have a family? Some families in Africa or Mexico still live in one room, and do it very well.

What's the point of owning 4 or 5 mansions when you can only live in one at a time?

What's the point of owning 10 cars. You can really only drive one at a time.

What's the point of owning closets full of clothes, 99% of which you will never wear? And think of all those shoes on their shoe racks?

What's the point of not owning many cars when you love cars?

What's the point of not owning lands and houses and closets full of clothes and shoes, when you love to have all these things around, even if you will never use them even once?

Get off it!

The point of guns is freedom. The point of gun control is to take your freedom away.

What if the gun freaks decided to get together and make it a law that everyone had to own 10 guns? But they don't, do they! They let you have your freedom to not own guns if you don't want to.

You better let the gun owners have their freedom. Why? Because if you push them too hard, they will push gun ownership requirements through Congress. Then you will be required to own guns.

And you better own guns. Why? Because it is the guys with the guns who have the ability to enforce it on you.

How will they enforce it on you? Why, with their guns, of course.

What type of weapons did the pictures i posted  show and why are or should they be legal?

Why the heck should normal citiziens run around with (half) automatic assault rifles ( thats the correct translation i believe)?

They are designed to kill as much people as possible in the shortest timeframe.

Automatic rifle?  Do you mean a machine gun, or are you referring to a rifle which uses part of the gas pressure to eject the shell and load the next shell?

After you are through figuring that out, let me know what "uselessly powerful and dangerous" means.  You want to go after a wild boar with a 22LR, I would sincerely like to watch.

Could you stop being an asshole and admit some guns, lots of them, are uselessly powerful and dangerous?

What's the point of owning an automatic rifle? Do you really need it?

Ans yes "scary knives". Military knives meant to kill are not allowed in Europe for the simple reason that they were invented and designed to kill people! Hence normal citizens shouldn't have to use them!

Sure, okay then.  Go ahead and argue against those "Scary looking rifles" and look like a total dumb ass.  Be my guest.  While you are at it, argue against "Scary knives" and be sure to say that "butcher knives are okay."  Hell, extend it to "scary people." 

Bullets kill but saying the riffle that shot it isn't relevant is as dumb as saying that who fires it is irrelevant.

Pff, get real!

Those are not important. no difference with a rubber. It's the bullet that kills not the gun (I think I've never heard this one before Spendulus xD)

Im talking about these:

Sure. No difference at all. I mean that's why the army works only with old 19th muskets. Because there is no difference, the important is the bullet

Could be you are simply ignorant about the subject, then.

It's pretty common for guides to carry a 1911 45 automatic, when in bear country.  A shot fired into the air makes the bear go away.  A bear that does not go away is extremely dangerous.

Your question about a  "Half automatic mp" does not make any sense.  The 1911 45 is also gas operated semiautomatic pistol.  I can only guess that you find whatever you refer to as "mp" somehow in a category of "scary gun" and therefore "bad."

That's a common mistake made by people ignorant of these technologies.  What is dangerous, lethal, etc is a chunk of lead fired at 800 to 2000 feet per second.  Makes no difference what fired it, could be a piece of pipe, a rubber band and a nail.

And none of our argument were limited to hunting.

You can own a gun or a rifle if you fear for your security. But what's the point of an automatic rifle?

And it's simply better to say "nobody has a gun except they go through police recording" IMHO.

Oh my bad.

So you want to own a (half) automatic mp for the case that you are walking in an ambush of bears, rattlesnake or rabid dogs?

Just in case i understood you wrong again please try to elaborate.

Edit

I think im pretty good in using logic

But none of my examples involve hunting, do they?

Get real please.  

Look, I'm not even saying Abandon your point of view and take my point of view.  I'm just saying get logical with your arguments.

Yeah, well you gotta have no problem fighting your bear with an AK-47 xD

And you stop with the false arguments. Owning guns for such reasons is perfectly legit and you have every right to own a rifle especially if you don't live in a city.

What do you think? That Europeans have no guns? Of course we do! Hunt is still a national sport in France and the 25% of the population not living in the city most of the times own at least one rifle for the family.

But that has nothing to do with the situation. The question is what is better? Make owning no weapon the rule and owning rifles because you want to hunt or simply because you feel you need it for security reasons the exception or the contrary?