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legendary
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February 29, 2016, 10:25:08 AM
Because social conditions can, at times, change very rapidly.  Historically there are many cases of this.  Currently, the huge influx of "refugees" is such a condition.

Exactly. More than 1,000 cases of sexual assault were reported from various German cities (especially from Cologne and Hamburg) during the new years eve. More than 1,000 assaults in a 24-hour period! And that is just the tip of the iceberg, as most of the crimes are not reported. According to the latest reports, Arab immigrants are arriving in Greece at a rate of around 5,000 per day.

Cause you think it would have changed ANYTHING to have a gun country....
Absolutely it would have changed things.



Please then explain why Texas is having more rapes than other states while having 83% of whites (which is extremely high) and one of the highest gun concentration in USA.

It's easy. The statistics you are using are wrong.    Cool

Wrong in which way? Wrong as in "there is no correlation" or wrong in "the data used is false"?
legendary
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February 29, 2016, 09:58:28 AM
Because social conditions can, at times, change very rapidly.  Historically there are many cases of this.  Currently, the huge influx of "refugees" is such a condition.

Exactly. More than 1,000 cases of sexual assault were reported from various German cities (especially from Cologne and Hamburg) during the new years eve. More than 1,000 assaults in a 24-hour period! And that is just the tip of the iceberg, as most of the crimes are not reported. According to the latest reports, Arab immigrants are arriving in Greece at a rate of around 5,000 per day.

Cause you think it would have changed ANYTHING to have a gun country....
Absolutely it would have changed things.



Please then explain why Texas is having more rapes than other states while having 83% of whites (which is extremely high) and one of the highest gun concentration in USA.

It's easy. The statistics you are using are wrong.    Cool
legendary
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February 29, 2016, 09:49:27 AM
Because social conditions can, at times, change very rapidly.  Historically there are many cases of this.  Currently, the huge influx of "refugees" is such a condition.

Exactly. More than 1,000 cases of sexual assault were reported from various German cities (especially from Cologne and Hamburg) during the new years eve. More than 1,000 assaults in a 24-hour period! And that is just the tip of the iceberg, as most of the crimes are not reported. According to the latest reports, Arab immigrants are arriving in Greece at a rate of around 5,000 per day.

Cause you think it would have changed ANYTHING to have a gun country....
Absolutely it would have changed things.



Please then explain why Texas is having more rapes than other states while having 83% of whites (which is extremely high) and one of the highest gun concentration in USA.

Here are some more unrelated statistics which you can have fun with.

http://blog.estately.com/2015/03/what-does-each-state-have-more-of-than-any-other/

Obviously all of the above is caused by Texas having more pet tigers than other states.

Let's get real, please.

Hmm... You're the one saying there is a link between number of guns available to the population and rape rates. I never made such bull statement.
legendary
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February 29, 2016, 09:42:37 AM
Because social conditions can, at times, change very rapidly.  Historically there are many cases of this.  Currently, the huge influx of "refugees" is such a condition.

Exactly. More than 1,000 cases of sexual assault were reported from various German cities (especially from Cologne and Hamburg) during the new years eve. More than 1,000 assaults in a 24-hour period! And that is just the tip of the iceberg, as most of the crimes are not reported. According to the latest reports, Arab immigrants are arriving in Greece at a rate of around 5,000 per day.

Cause you think it would have changed ANYTHING to have a gun country....
Absolutely it would have changed things.



Please then explain why Texas is having more rapes than other states while having 83% of whites (which is extremely high) and one of the highest gun concentration in USA.

Here are some more unrelated statistics which you can have fun with.

http://blog.estately.com/2015/03/what-does-each-state-have-more-of-than-any-other/

Obviously all of the above is caused by Texas having more pet tigers than other states.

Let's get real, please.
legendary
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February 29, 2016, 07:55:09 AM
Because social conditions can, at times, change very rapidly.  Historically there are many cases of this.  Currently, the huge influx of "refugees" is such a condition.

Exactly. More than 1,000 cases of sexual assault were reported from various German cities (especially from Cologne and Hamburg) during the new years eve. More than 1,000 assaults in a 24-hour period! And that is just the tip of the iceberg, as most of the crimes are not reported. According to the latest reports, Arab immigrants are arriving in Greece at a rate of around 5,000 per day.

Cause you think it would have changed ANYTHING to have a gun country....
Absolutely it would have changed things.



Please then explain why Texas is having more rapes than other states while having 83% of whites (which is extremely high) and one of the highest gun concentration in USA.
legendary
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Merit: 1386
February 29, 2016, 07:43:40 AM
Because social conditions can, at times, change very rapidly.  Historically there are many cases of this.  Currently, the huge influx of "refugees" is such a condition.

Exactly. More than 1,000 cases of sexual assault were reported from various German cities (especially from Cologne and Hamburg) during the new years eve. More than 1,000 assaults in a 24-hour period! And that is just the tip of the iceberg, as most of the crimes are not reported. According to the latest reports, Arab immigrants are arriving in Greece at a rate of around 5,000 per day.

Cause you think it would have changed ANYTHING to have a gun country....
Absolutely it would have changed things.

legendary
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Merit: 1251
February 29, 2016, 05:49:38 AM
If guns helps you to protect yourself, why is the rape rates higher in Texas than in California? Guns are much more numerous and gun legislation is much less important in Texas though.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_Texas
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_California

Oh and btw, you're all more or less saying that blacks/migrants rape everyone and that gun allow you to defend yourself.

Why has texas a higher rape rates than California while having more guns and a population 83% white? Anyone got an explanation? Want to talk about racial diversity again TECHShare?
legendary
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February 29, 2016, 05:44:14 AM
Because social conditions can, at times, change very rapidly.  Historically there are many cases of this.  Currently, the huge influx of "refugees" is such a condition.

Exactly. More than 1,000 cases of sexual assault were reported from various German cities (especially from Cologne and Hamburg) during the new years eve. More than 1,000 assaults in a 24-hour period! And that is just the tip of the iceberg, as most of the crimes are not reported. According to the latest reports, Arab immigrants are arriving in Greece at a rate of around 5,000 per day.

Cause you think it would have changed ANYTHING to have a gun country? Then why are so much rapes occuring in USA if guns should protect you?
legendary
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February 29, 2016, 05:43:17 AM
Because social conditions can, at times, change very rapidly.  Historically there are many cases of this.  Currently, the huge influx of "refugees" is such a condition.

Exactly. More than 1,000 cases of sexual assault were reported from various German cities (especially from Cologne and Hamburg) during the new years eve. More than 1,000 assaults in a 24-hour period! And that is just the tip of the iceberg, as most of the crimes are not reported. According to the latest reports, Arab immigrants are arriving in Greece at a rate of around 5,000 per day.

Sexual assault is one of the most under reported crimes, with 68% still being left unreported.
Those rapists, of course, will never spend a day in prison. But even when the crime is reported, it is unlike to lead to an arrest and prosecution. Factoring in unreported rapes, only about 2% of rapists will ever serve a day in prison.



If you want to take this into account take also into account the fact that more than 90% of rapes are done in the house, by family members.

Most rapes are family abuses, that can be father/daughter of course but mostly husband and wife not consensual sex. This is the real deal, not the few hundreds rapes occuring outside which are, of course terrifying, but also much less important (in terms of numbers).
member
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February 29, 2016, 01:24:39 AM
Gun is a perfect deterrent.
So,  i think guns are necessary.
If laws prevent your right to obtain gun, one rober who obtained gun illegaly will rob you or worse, kill you for some of money.
Just laws should strictly keep under control guns.
Thats all guys

I'm kind of thinking this matter should be personified.

It's Mr. Gun, my friend.

And Mr. Gun is a dire threat, if he is a friend of the fiend.

But if Mr. Gun is a friend to us all, then, well.  Maybe things will be civil.



People with guns became boastful when they already had. So the gun owners must learn to respect and always keep calm because it might trigger them to play with their guns in no time and can get someones life with just a simple kid fight.
legendary
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February 28, 2016, 08:28:34 PM
Gun is a perfect deterrent.
So,  i think guns are necessary.
If laws prevent your right to obtain gun, one rober who obtained gun illegaly will rob you or worse, kill you for some of money.
Just laws should strictly keep under control guns.
Thats all guys

I'm kind of thinking this matter should be personified.

It's Mr. Gun, my friend.

And Mr. Gun is a dire threat, if he is a friend of the fiend.

But if Mr. Gun is a friend to us all, then, well.  Maybe things will be civil.

member
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February 28, 2016, 05:16:12 PM
They will always find way to release you from something that belong to you!
Through history you have plenty evidence starting with gold.
This is not something new.
 Undecided
full member
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February 28, 2016, 02:07:52 PM
Gun is a perfect deterrent.
So,  i think guns are necessary.
If laws prevent your right to obtain gun, one rober who obtained gun illegaly will rob you or worse, kill you for some of money.
Just laws should strictly keep under control guns.
Thats all guys
hero member
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February 28, 2016, 04:04:31 AM
Because social conditions can, at times, change very rapidly.  Historically there are many cases of this.  Currently, the huge influx of "refugees" is such a condition.

Exactly. More than 1,000 cases of sexual assault were reported from various German cities (especially from Cologne and Hamburg) during the new years eve. More than 1,000 assaults in a 24-hour period! And that is just the tip of the iceberg, as most of the crimes are not reported. According to the latest reports, Arab immigrants are arriving in Greece at a rate of around 5,000 per day.

Sexual assault is one of the most under reported crimes, with 68% still being left unreported.
Those rapists, of course, will never spend a day in prison. But even when the crime is reported, it is unlike to lead to an arrest and prosecution. Factoring in unreported rapes, only about 2% of rapists will ever serve a day in prison.

legendary
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February 27, 2016, 01:02:14 AM
Because social conditions can, at times, change very rapidly.  Historically there are many cases of this.  Currently, the huge influx of "refugees" is such a condition.

Exactly. More than 1,000 cases of sexual assault were reported from various German cities (especially from Cologne and Hamburg) during the new years eve. More than 1,000 assaults in a 24-hour period! And that is just the tip of the iceberg, as most of the crimes are not reported. According to the latest reports, Arab immigrants are arriving in Greece at a rate of around 5,000 per day.
legendary
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RIP Mommy
February 27, 2016, 12:50:55 AM
To all the UK disarmed/defenseless murder victim grave-shitters/revisionist historians:

The United States’ Federal Bureau of Investigation adds up all the dead bodies that are reported to it and says that – for 2011 – there were 14,412 homicides of which 12,664 were murders among 311,591,917 Americans for a murder rate of 4.06 per 100,000.

...

murders that have not been solved are not included [in England's government's crime stats]. If indications in the Telegraph are correct, that would substantially reduce the homicide rate in itself. Murders that have resulted in an arrest but no conviction are not counted. Convictions that have not been appealed are apparently not counted. And the number of minorities reported as murder victims is far below either the demographics or of reason.

If the media reports of a total of 4,760 “violent fatalities of interest to the police” from 1 January 2011 to 30 November 2012 are correct, the murder rate is 4.7 per 100,000 population, the same as our much more inclusive homicide rate, and substantially higher than the United States murder rate.

Of course, the British murder rate is likely to be much higher than 4.7. British police are notorious for “fiddling” with the crime data. Including murder data. It takes less effort to fail to report a crime to the media than it does to consistently report crimes.

If everything is taken into account, England most probably has a murder rate close to 6 per 100,000. Or more.

Banning effective self-defense works...

newbie
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February 26, 2016, 09:36:47 PM
I am with the freedom of using guns so every individual will be able do defined himself against anyone try to harm him
member
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February 26, 2016, 07:20:25 PM
Mates I have read something last time about the most peaceful country in the world. And it is Iceland, does it mean they are not using guns on their society? So everyone there is confident that they have no violations and crimes with their country.
legendary
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February 26, 2016, 06:00:16 PM
Yeah! Those liberal pussies who wants to ban guns because we have obvious evidence that the very "protected USA" has more rapes and more murderers than most EU countries! Damn pussies with their damn logic! Roll Eyes

The American crime rates have nothing to do with gun ownership. Historically, crime rates in the United States have been higher than those in the European Union or Japan, due to various factors. Those with a gun can protect themselves from the criminals, and those who doesn't own one gets targeted very often. And I am sure that the country with the highest rate of violent rape (Sweden) is a gun-free nation.

http://www.frontpagemag.com/point/175434/1-4-swedish-women-will-be-raped-sexual-assaults-daniel-greenfield

http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/5195/sweden-rape

And why should we allow gun in countries like France, UK, Belgium... Where there is less violent crimes and less rapes?

Not saying the American crime rates is due to guns, but the monthly massing shooting maybe a little no? Roll Eyes

Because social conditions can, at times, change very rapidly.  Historically there are many cases of this.  Currently, the huge influx of "refugees" is such a condition.

It actually takes multivariate statistical analysis to get anywhere trying to draw meaning from a culture and guns, because of the many factors involved.
sr. member
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February 26, 2016, 06:28:44 AM
Yeah! Those liberal pussies who wants to ban guns because we have obvious evidence that the very "protected USA" has more rapes and more murderers than most EU countries! Damn pussies with their damn logic! Roll Eyes

The American crime rates have nothing to do with gun ownership. Historically, crime rates in the United States have been higher than those in the European Union or Japan, due to various factors. Those with a gun can protect themselves from the criminals, and those who doesn't own one gets targeted very often. And I am sure that the country with the highest rate of violent rape (Sweden) is a gun-free nation.

http://www.frontpagemag.com/point/175434/1-4-swedish-women-will-be-raped-sexual-assaults-daniel-greenfield

http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/5195/sweden-rape

And why should we allow gun in countries like France, UK, Belgium... Where there is less violent crimes and less rapes?

Not saying the American crime rates is due to guns, but the monthly massing shooting maybe a little no? Roll Eyes
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