What's your opinion of gun control? - page 134.

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Quote from: yugo23 on February 26, 2016, 05:19:36 AM

Yeah! Those liberal pussies who wants to ban guns because we have obvious evidence that the very "protected USA" has more rapes and more murderers than most EU countries! Damn pussies with their damn logic! Roll Eyes

The American crime rates have nothing to do with gun ownership. Historically, crime rates in the United States have been higher than those in the European Union or Japan, due to various factors. Those with a gun can protect themselves from the criminals, and those who doesn't own one gets targeted very often. And I am sure that the country with the highest rate of violent rape (Sweden) is a gun-free nation.

http://www.frontpagemag.com/point/175434/1-4-swedish-women-will-be-raped-sexual-assaults-daniel-greenfield

http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/5195/sweden-rape

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Quote from: yugo23 on February 26, 2016, 05:19:36 AM

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Quote from: MoneyChanger on February 25, 2016, 01:42:46 PM

This is my attitude also!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ju4Gla2odw

Don't give your guns you will be enslaved more easily.

A great speech by a great man. I wish those liberal pussies in Europe would start seeing the need for protection. They should at the very least make rubber and gas bullets legal and available but they won't start thinking about it until it's too late.

Yeah! Those liberal pussies who wants to ban guns because we have obvious evidence that the very "protected USA" has more rapes and more murderers than most EU countries! Damn pussies with their damn logic! Roll Eyes

Such "obvious evidence" that no evidence at all is actually required to be cited to justify dancing in the blood of government-disarmed & defenseless innocents, since would-be murderers and rapists HATE getting shot by armed & defensive/ed innocents!

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Quote from: poptok1 on February 26, 2016, 05:31:57 AM

In my state you can own a black powder gun. Replica of a firearm up to 1856 without any permission.
You can load those guns with long banned bulets like dumdum and no one gives a F.
You can imagine what kind of damage that gun can do. They are 6-7 shooters with replaceble drum. So with 2drums you could harm 12-14 peeps. Massive power if loaded with dumdum.
And yet you cant own a modern pistol witch is more safe more civilized and have sr. number and safety trigger and bullets are made to harm not blown into smitherines...another nonsense

Well it's only because you're not really supposed to own this gun... It's more like a loophole than a nonsense.

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In my state you can own a black powder gun. Replica of a firearm up to 1856 without any permission.
You can load those guns with long banned bulets like dumdum and no one gives a F.
You can imagine what kind of damage that gun can do. They are 6-7 shooters with replaceble drum. So with 2drums you could harm 12-14 peeps. Massive power if loaded with dumdum.
And yet you cant own a modern pistol witch is more safe more civilized and have sr. number and safety trigger and bullets are made to harm not blown into smitherines...another nonsense

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Quote from: darkangel11 on February 25, 2016, 03:00:30 PM

Quote from: MoneyChanger on February 25, 2016, 01:42:46 PM

This is my attitude also!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ju4Gla2odw

Don't give your guns you will be enslaved more easily.

A great speech by a great man. I wish those liberal pussies in Europe would start seeing the need for protection. They should at the very least make rubber and gas bullets legal and available but they won't start thinking about it until it's too late.

Yeah! Those liberal pussies who wants to ban guns because we have obvious evidence that the very "protected USA" has more rapes and more murderers than most EU countries! Damn pussies with their damn logic! Roll Eyes

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Quote from: MoneyChanger on February 25, 2016, 01:42:46 PM

This is my attitude also!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ju4Gla2odw

Don't give your guns you will be enslaved more easily.

A great speech by a great man. I wish those liberal pussies in Europe would start seeing the need for protection. They should at the very least make rubber and gas bullets legal and available but they won't start thinking about it until it's too late.

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This is my attitude also!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ju4Gla2odw

Don't give your guns you will be enslaved more easily.

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Quote from: TheButterZone on February 24, 2016, 04:23:45 PM

Quote from: tvbcof on February 24, 2016, 11:22:36 AM

Quote from: valta4065 on February 24, 2016, 04:12:00 AM

How about: You're wrong and don't know history.

Stalin, Hitler and Mao had the majority. Hitler was elected, Mao and Staline led a revolution. Thanks for giving the wrong examples.

Good and important point. I would take some exception in the case of Stalin however. As I understand things, he was mostly part of Lenin's entourage and the guy who came out on top at some point after the revolution.

I LMFAO every time defenders of the indefensible shriek "the majority", as if the worst mass murderers in history, would have believed rigging elections with their loyalist vote counters & killing non-loyalist vote counters, and using revolutionary propaganda to pretend they had "the majority" behind them (when the actual, verifiable, majority of people did not vote for them or support their revolution OR THEIR OWN DISARMAMENT AND SUBSEQUENT DEMOCIDE), would have crossed their moral line. http://www.votefraud.org/josef_stalin_vote_fraud_page.htm

It's just about as ridiculous as claiming a serial child rapist is above telling any lie at all, ever.

What you don't understand is that it was not two sides fighting... It was one side strong, united, dominating. USSR people had the right to bear weapons, it didn't help them...

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Quote from: tvbcof on February 24, 2016, 11:22:36 AM

Quote from: valta4065 on February 24, 2016, 04:12:00 AM

How about: You're wrong and don't know history.

Stalin, Hitler and Mao had the majority. Hitler was elected, Mao and Staline led a revolution. Thanks for giving the wrong examples.

Good and important point. I would take some exception in the case of Stalin however. As I understand things, he was mostly part of Lenin's entourage and the guy who came out on top at some point after the revolution.

I LMFAO every time defenders of the indefensible shriek "the majority", as if the worst mass murderers in history, would have believed rigging elections with their loyalist vote counters & killing non-loyalist vote counters, and using revolutionary propaganda to pretend they had "the majority" behind them (when the actual, verifiable, majority of people did not vote for them or support their revolution OR THEIR OWN DISARMAMENT AND SUBSEQUENT DEMOCIDE), would have crossed their moral line. http://www.votefraud.org/josef_stalin_vote_fraud_page.htm

It's just about as ridiculous as claiming a serial child rapist is above telling any lie at all, ever.

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Quote from: tvbcof on February 24, 2016, 11:22:36 AM

Quote from: valta4065 on February 24, 2016, 04:12:00 AM

How about: You're wrong and don't know history.

Stalin, Hitler and Mao had the majority. Hitler was elected, Mao and Staline led a revolution. Thanks for giving the wrong examples.

Good and important point. I would take some exception in the case of Stalin however. As I understand things, he was mostly part of Lenin's entourage and the guy who came out on top at some point after the revolution.

Yeah it's right for Staline. But it's the same, 3 people were leading the revolution, two died, the one remaining leads the country and he has the majority ^^

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Quote from: bonski on February 23, 2016, 10:05:33 PM

And as the history of my country (Philippines) Spaniards used gun to promote their religion which is Catholicism. If gun will still exist to this world, they will be always war everywhere and criminals will use it to scare the innocent people by using it to their crimes.

Last I heard, the Phillipines, beautiful though they are, had terrorists in various places, also numerous areas which are outright Communistic. Quite a few guns around the islands, right?

What does that say? How about we consider the NOW, rather than hundreds of years ago?

I ask not to denigrate your comment but to see your opinion as to the problems of today.

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Quote from: valta4065 on February 24, 2016, 04:12:00 AM

How about: You're wrong and don't know history.

Stalin, Hitler and Mao had the majority. Hitler was elected, Mao and Staline led a revolution. Thanks for giving the wrong examples.

Good and important point. I would take some exception in the case of Stalin however. As I understand things, he was mostly part of Lenin's entourage and the guy who came out on top at some point after the revolution.

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Quote from: TheButterZone on February 23, 2016, 10:01:49 PM

And that's the difference. 2 sides armed, in combat=war. 1 side armed, 1 side disarmed, in aggression=democide. Would you rather be A) a defenseless innocent in the oven aka prey B) a criminal against humanity filling the ovens aka predator or C) that "fucking gun nut" who would neither be predator nor prey?

It's never clear and plain 1 side against another one... I don't even know you can think it's that simple...

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Quote from: BADecker on February 23, 2016, 09:32:07 PM

Quote from: mOgliE on February 22, 2016, 02:38:04 PM

Quote from: TheButterZone on February 22, 2016, 02:29:28 PM

Quote from: xslugx on February 22, 2016, 01:48:44 PM

Quote from: TheButterZone on February 22, 2016, 01:34:48 PM

Governments have killed and maimed many times more people than all "civilians" have ever, per capita, but governments should be the only ones with guns? Fuck you to death, you pro-democide freaks.

What an argument...

You're talking about governments like they were some independent entity!
Government NEVER KILLED ANYONE! People did! When a government wants to kill part of the population or another country's population, they send the army, the people! And the people are more than willing to kill! What would gun control change to that?

Distinction without a difference. If the government (the minority of the people) wants to kill people, it does, over all objections by the majority of the people, who have been disarmed by "gun control".

Oh, you ignored the historical example given.

And the government can't kill the majority because the army is also the majority. It never did. Give me one example.

How about 3: Stalin, Hitler, Mao. And there are a lot more.

Genghis Khan was religious. He was Shamanistic. In addition, he didn't try to kill off people because of their religious beliefs, even if they were different than his. Thus, Temujin must be added to the religious end of the killing... a mere 12,000,000 compared to the 100,000,000 of Stalin, Hitler, and Mao.

Besides, the people Temujin killed were armed soldiers of other nations. Stalin, Hitler, and Mao killed their own unarmed citizens.

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How about: You're wrong and don't know history.

Stalin, Hitler and Mao had the majority. Hitler was elected, Mao and Staline led a revolution. Thanks for giving the wrong examples.

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Quote from: bonski on February 23, 2016, 10:05:33 PM

And as the history of my country (Philippines) Spaniards used gun to promote their religion which is Catholicism. If gun will still exist to this world, they will be always war everywhere and criminals will use it to scare the innocent people by using it to their crimes.

I have never heard such history of Philippines. If such incident took place atleast we can see a small group of people in the country opposing catholic, but there is no such thing. Lets stop gun just thinking of past few years gun trend that took many lives. So using of gun should have certain age restrictions too.

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And as the history of my country (Philippines) Spaniards used gun to promote their religion which is Catholicism. If gun will still exist to this world, they will be always war everywhere and criminals will use it to scare the innocent people by using it to their crimes.

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And that's the difference. 2 sides armed, in combat=war. 1 side armed, 1 side disarmed, in aggression=democide. Would you rather be A) a defenseless innocent in the oven aka prey B) a criminal against humanity filling the ovens aka predator or C) that "fucking gun nut" who would neither be predator nor prey?

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Quote from: mOgliE on February 22, 2016, 02:38:04 PM

Quote from: TheButterZone on February 22, 2016, 02:29:28 PM

Quote from: xslugx on February 22, 2016, 01:48:44 PM

Quote from: TheButterZone on February 22, 2016, 01:34:48 PM

Governments have killed and maimed many times more people than all "civilians" have ever, per capita, but governments should be the only ones with guns? Fuck you to death, you pro-democide freaks.

What an argument...

You're talking about governments like they were some independent entity!
Government NEVER KILLED ANYONE! People did! When a government wants to kill part of the population or another country's population, they send the army, the people! And the people are more than willing to kill! What would gun control change to that?

Distinction without a difference. If the government (the minority of the people) wants to kill people, it does, over all objections by the majority of the people, who have been disarmed by "gun control".

Oh, you ignored the historical example given.

And the government can't kill the majority because the army is also the majority. It never did. Give me one example.

How about 3: Stalin, Hitler, Mao. And there are a lot more.

Genghis Khan was religious. He was Shamanistic. In addition, he didn't try to kill off people because of their religious beliefs, even if they were different than his. Thus, Temujin must be added to the religious end of the killing... a mere 12,000,000 compared to the 100,000,000 of Stalin, Hitler, and Mao.

Besides, the people Temujin killed were armed soldiers of other nations. Stalin, Hitler, and Mao killed their own unarmed citizens.

Cool

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Quote from: TheButterZone on February 23, 2016, 04:20:15 AM

Quote from: craked5 on February 23, 2016, 04:13:50 AM

Maybe that's what your founders believe. But History says your founders are wrong.

Revisionist history to shit on the graves of "gun control" aka democide victims, certainly.

Don't know what you call revisionist history. Would you care to share your beliefs?

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Quote from: TheButterZone on February 23, 2016, 04:20:15 AM

Quote from: craked5 on February 23, 2016, 04:13:50 AM

Maybe that's what your founders believe. But History says your founders are wrong.

Revisionist history to shit on the graves of "gun control" aka democide victims, certainly.

Funny I think you already said this but never refers to any precise part of history. You only come here and say "blah blah blah you're wrong blah blah blah you're lying" without giving any example even if you were asked to like 4 or 5 times already.

Well sorry but as long as you have such great arguments, I don't see how I can agree with you...

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