Topic: What's your opinion of gun control? - page 148. (Read 450471 times)
It sholud be controlled who and when buy guns, and how much..for example if somebody has 100 guns it sholud be good to pay attention on him..also must be see if the person has a criminal record.
First right of people is right for living!
If you want to have right to protect your rights first you must protect your life!
If you want to have right to protect your rights first you must protect your life!
Who gives a fuck what the French think about our domestic laws? What are they going to do? Not call us for help again next time they get their asses kicked?
Dude if you don't want my opinion don't go on a thread named "your opinion on guns' control".
For the "not call us for help" part, yeah thanks when you see how you screwed us after I wonder if nazis were not better...
And I like it how WWII is the proof of French incapacity to protect themselves and American great heart but how Lafayette is forgotten.
I'll take the time to read your links later. But as I said and as you ignored, I apologized for the misunderstanding of the stats you provided. I can't really give you more than an apology. But it doesn't demonstrate your point as I was talking about violent crimes. Of course you could argue that "making a population safe" aso includes minor crimes like thefts. But guns won't increase thief, that's rather obvious there is no corelation between the two.
So I was talking about violent crimes rates and homicides. That's why I was talking about mass shootings.
And if my opinion offenses you, again don't go on a thread made for that or ignore me.
But go read some of the links and see what you think then.
Ok so I took the time to read PARTS of your link. Yeah parts because it's deep and heavy legislation text in English and sorry but I took some times to read what seemed important, I' to me so I might have omitted some things. If you're not happy with that then go read the whole French legislation to have an idea of how difficult it is for a non native English speaker ><
And... Well it perfectly confirms Michael Moore documentary sorry. I don't see any "propaganda" in what he made. The very basis of owning a firearm dealer license is "Is not prohibited from shipping, transporting, receiving or possessing firearms or ammunition, nor in the case of a corporation, partnership, or association, is any individual possessing, directly or indirectly, the power to direct or cause the direction of the management and policies of the corporation, partnership, or association prohibited from shipping, transporting, receiving or possessing firearms or ammunition;"
So in short, not doing anything illegal. Which means that more or less any business can sell weapons and bullets if the local police force allows it.
I don't see the propaganda here. Again, I'm trying to be humble as I'm pretty sure I don't understood everything of the USA legislation, but all I see is an incredible freedom of firearms.
This affirms several aspects of the right to possess guns as laid out in our constitution.
Looks like we need a lot more guns to protect ourselves from GOVERNMENT MURDERERS who murder us in the name of a government that doesn't allow murder. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.13717719
Who gives a fuck what the French think about our domestic laws? What are they going to do? Not call us for help again next time they get their asses kicked?
Dude if you don't want my opinion don't go on a thread named "your opinion on guns' control".
For the "not call us for help" part, yeah thanks when you see how you screwed us after I wonder if nazis were not better...
And I like it how WWII is the proof of French incapacity to protect themselves and American great heart but how Lafayette is forgotten.
I'll take the time to read your links later. But as I said and as you ignored, I apologized for the misunderstanding of the stats you provided. I can't really give you more than an apology. But it doesn't demonstrate your point as I was talking about violent crimes. Of course you could argue that "making a population safe" aso includes minor crimes like thefts. But guns won't increase thief, that's rather obvious there is no corelation between the two.
So I was talking about violent crimes rates and homicides. That's why I was talking about mass shootings.
And if my opinion offenses you, again don't go on a thread made for that or ignore me.
But go read some of the links and see what you think then.
Ok so I took the time to read PARTS of your link. Yeah parts because it's deep and heavy legislation text in English and sorry but I took some times to read what seemed important, I' to me so I might have omitted some things. If you're not happy with that then go read the whole French legislation to have an idea of how difficult it is for a non native English speaker ><
And... Well it perfectly confirms Michael Moore documentary sorry. I don't see any "propaganda" in what he made. The very basis of owning a firearm dealer license is "Is not prohibited from shipping, transporting, receiving or possessing firearms or ammunition, nor in the case of a corporation, partnership, or association, is any individual possessing, directly or indirectly, the power to direct or cause the direction of the management and policies of the corporation, partnership, or association prohibited from shipping, transporting, receiving or possessing firearms or ammunition;"
So in short, not doing anything illegal. Which means that more or less any business can sell weapons and bullets if the local police force allows it.
I don't see the propaganda here. Again, I'm trying to be humble as I'm pretty sure I don't understood everything of the USA legislation, but all I see is an incredible freedom of firearms.
My only opinion is that people can do whatever they want. But going around with deadly weapons is not something that they should be allowed to do. You can be free and happy without a gun.
No cause you can't defend yourself. Whereas if you own a gun, the society becomes much less violent and violent crimes and rapes are less frequent! Oh wait.... In fact... No...
My only opinion is that people can do whatever they want. But going around with deadly weapons is not something that they should be allowed to do. You can be free and happy without a gun.
There are countries where guns are not allowed and where people haven't even heard a gun shot. But no, the US knows better. Because John Wayne fans want to be all cowboys.
... and all French men ride bicycles around wearing a horizontal black and white striped shirt and a beret with a loaf of french bread under their arm, and a wedge of cheese in their hand and a bottle of wine under the other arm while they twirl their mustaches.
Any other stereotypes derived from entertainment media you would like to throw out there to justify your opinions?
Need people control more.
Lots of control. Put all people into strait-jackets. Let robots do all the labor, and force feed people and wipe their rears.
I mean. Where do we draw the line. People are going to die of old age anyway. Let them be totally free while they are alive so they can enjoy life.
Need people control more.
There are countries where guns are not allowed and where people haven't even heard a gun shot. But no, the US knows better. Because John Wayne fans want to be all cowboys.
Because people want to be free, especially from government, and John Wayne cowboy films are the embodiment of freedom in the West where there was no government at that time.
There are countries where guns are not allowed and where people haven't even heard a gun shot. But no, the US knows better. Because John Wayne fans want to be all cowboys.
"Guns" and "control" are the key words here. If anyone can have guns anytime they want where is the control? Isn't there a contradiction?
"Gun control" is a misnomer. The thing that it really is, is "people control."
Why do some people think that they can control other people better than the people can control themselves? You government people, get your pasty little fingers out of my life.
Criminals walks around with this, while citizens don't have guns:
One of the most freedom/slavery important things about people control is, getting people to think that they should be controlled by someone else. And the way it works is like this.
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I want someone else to be controlled regarding guns. Government offers a solution. Government will do the job of controlling that other person's guns for me.
Somebody else wants me controlled regarding the way I talk. Government offers a solution. Government will do the job of controlling my "mouth" for that other person.
Somebody else wants me controlled regarding the way I talk. Government offers a solution. Government will do the job of controlling my "mouth" for that other person.
Why do I want someone else to be controlled regarding guns? And why does someone else want me to be controlled regarding speech freedom? Because government people have used our tax dollars to propagandize both of us into thinking that there is something inherently bad and dangerous about the way the other person thinks. Government is making us think that freedom is inherently a bad thing.
Why is government doing this? Government ISN'T doing it. Government is words on paper. Words on paper can't get up and do anything. SHREWD PEOPLE in government are using government paperwork to make it look like they have the right and wisdom to remove our freedoms from us.
Then they send trolls to this forum to make freedom-removal/gun-control look like a good thing.
"Guns" and "control" are the key words here. If anyone can have guns anytime they want where is the control? Isn't there a contradiction?
"Gun control" is a misnomer. The thing that it really is, is "people control."
Why do some people think that they can control other people better than the people can control themselves? You government people, get your pasty little fingers out of my life.
Criminals walks around with this, while citizens don't have guns:
"Guns" and "control" are the key words here. If anyone can have guns anytime they want where is the control? Isn't there a contradiction?
"Gun control" is a misnomer. The thing that it really is, is "people control."
Why do some people think that they can control other people better than the people can control themselves? You government people, get your pasty little fingers out of my life.
"Guns" and "control" are the key words here. If anyone can have guns anytime they want where is the control? Isn't there a contradiction?
Who gives a fuck what the French think about our domestic laws? What are they going to do? Not call us for help again next time they get their asses kicked?
Dude if you don't want my opinion don't go on a thread named "your opinion on guns' control".
For the "not call us for help" part, yeah thanks when you see how you screwed us after I wonder if nazis were not better...
And I like it how WWII is the proof of French incapacity to protect themselves and American great heart but how Lafayette is forgotten.
I'll take the time to read your links later. But as I said and as you ignored, I apologized for the misunderstanding of the stats you provided. I can't really give you more than an apology. But it doesn't demonstrate your point as I was talking about violent crimes. Of course you could argue that "making a population safe" aso includes minor crimes like thefts. But guns won't increase thief, that's rather obvious there is no corelation between the two.
So I was talking about violent crimes rates and homicides. That's why I was talking about mass shootings.
And if my opinion offenses you, again don't go on a thread made for that or ignore me.
I came here to debate the pros and cons of gun control, but you clearly are not interested in debate because you automatically latch on to the most meaningless part of a conversation to try to give yourself some kind of moral high ground that you already took a crap on 5 pages back. I want to have a debate about gun control with you and others, you do not want to debate me, you want to tell me your opinions and ignore facts I present while cherry picking your own stats and then not understanding what you are even sourcing.
You couldn't offend me if you tried, you however are obviously very offended by my opinions based on your response to my production of information that is counter to your existing beliefs. You have such strong confirmation bias you literally will not even look at any one else's information. In summary its not about you offending me or not wanting to debate you, its that your opinion means nothing to me much like the facts I present mean nothing to you. The difference between us is I will look at facts when you present them, but so far I see 98% opinion, and any facts are from statistics sites I sourced. Not impressed.
What is generally offensive however is some Frenchman that doesn't have any idea what he is talking about trying to argue that I should be disarmed in my own country and not be able to protect myself so he can feel morally superior. Why would anyone be offended by foreigners trying to define laws in a country they don't even live in? French won't even speak English to people when they visit your country, but you get to tell us if we are allowed to defend our lives and country at home? Frenchy please...
When you are done looking up the big words in my previous reply please do respond.
P.S. I think with the invasion of Muslim "refugees" from "Syria" moving into Europe, that it is far too dangerous for your police to be armed. I think in preparation for this incoming wave of crime and violence that you should disarm your law enforcement. After all, guns cause more violence than they prevent right? In the end you will be much safer in your hole 6ft under.
For me it's all about freedom. The 2nd Amendment gives us the right to keep and bear arms. That right has been infringed upon enough. Gun control is a joke. How would you like to live in a society where only the police and criminals had guns ? Not me.
Wrong! The 2nd Amendment gives us no rights at all. The rights are inherent in us. If the Amendments were gone today, all of our rights remain. Why? Because government paperwork does nothing. It just sits there. Only people do things. What do government people do? They take advantage of other people who think that their rights come from some paperwork.
The paperwork expresses the equality of all people when it says, "All men are created equal ..." So, how is it that when government people hurt you by what they say and do, they get away with it? It's because you let them... maybe agree with them. Wake up and pick up your right to do anything as long as you are not hurting someone else. Wake up and realize that when government people limit you in any way, they are harming you.
For me it's all about freedom. The 2nd Amendment gives us the right to keep and bear arms. That right has been infringed upon enough. Gun control is a joke. How would you like to live in a society where only the police and criminals had guns ? Not me.
Who gives a fuck what the French think about our domestic laws? What are they going to do? Not call us for help again next time they get their asses kicked?
Dude if you don't want my opinion don't go on a thread named "your opinion on guns' control".
For the "not call us for help" part, yeah thanks when you see how you screwed us after I wonder if nazis were not better...
And I like it how WWII is the proof of French incapacity to protect themselves and American great heart but how Lafayette is forgotten.
I'll take the time to read your links later. But as I said and as you ignored, I apologized for the misunderstanding of the stats you provided. I can't really give you more than an apology. But it doesn't demonstrate your point as I was talking about violent crimes. Of course you could argue that "making a population safe" aso includes minor crimes like thefts. But guns won't increase thief, that's rather obvious there is no corelation between the two.
So I was talking about violent crimes rates and homicides. That's why I was talking about mass shootings.
And if my opinion offenses you, again don't go on a thread made for that or ignore me.
But go read some of the links and see what you think then.
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