What's your opinion of gun control? - page 144.

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Quote from: mOgliE on February 05, 2016, 04:30:22 AM

Quote from: darkangel11 on February 04, 2016, 03:00:44 PM

I'm for gun control in the means that convicted criminals and children should not have access to it. Besides that people have the right to protect themselves and should be able to own guns.

And how do you ensure that children have no access to guns?

Sadly enough, around 60 children die each year just because they found a gun somewhere. I know it seems not a lot, and it sure isn't compared to the millions of inhabitants. But what does a life is worth? Especially a child life.

And 60 is the federal estimation, most other institutes have MUCH HIGHER data. But even the federal one is too much I think Undecided

http://everytownresearch.org/reports/innocents_lost/

I don't understand how a child can kill himself or hurt anyone with a gun.

I mean, I'm not a gun specialist but most firearm aren't exactly easy to use! You need some strength in the fingers to pull the trigger!
I'm not sure I would have been able to do it when I was a child xD

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Quote from: darkangel11 on February 04, 2016, 03:00:44 PM

I'm for gun control in the means that convicted criminals and children should not have access to it. Besides that people have the right to protect themselves and should be able to own guns.

And how do you ensure that children have no access to guns?

Sadly enough, around 60 children die each year just because they found a gun somewhere. I know it seems not a lot, and it sure isn't compared to the millions of inhabitants. But what does a life is worth? Especially a child life.

And 60 is the federal estimation, most other institutes have MUCH HIGHER data. But even the federal one is too much I think Undecided

http://everytownresearch.org/reports/innocents_lost/

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Quote from: BADecker on February 04, 2016, 01:49:12 PM

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Quote from: Moloch on February 03, 2016, 02:52:11 PM

Why do you think so many mass shootings occur at a school, or other "gun free zone"?

The answer is that the crazy person knows it will be less likely that anyone will shoot back...

No, that's probably not the reason.
They choose the schools because they hate the people there.

So the heavily-armed-teacher, staff, IDF & police schools in Israel are being shot up by Daesh at the same rate or worse than the "gun-free teacher, staff, and AWOL police officer zones" in the US?

It's also why you can't have just a part of a country which is gun free. You need the whole country to be gun free or without gun control, cause if you set gun free zones, criminals and citizens will easily get guns by just going out and back of the zone.

But in all this posting, you need to remember one major thing. The gun control that we are generally talking about in this thread is not really gun control. Rather, it is people control - people controlling other people.

Well we're in a society. It's all about human interactions of course. You can't control anything else but human actions, what else could you do?

It's a bit a sneaky reasoning, you can apply this definition to EVERY decision taken by any kind of society. Not that it's wrong, but that is ALWAYS true, so not very interesting.

If you like being controlled by other people, you will fit into the gun control scenario very well.

If you like controlling other people, you will fit into the gun control scenario very well.

It's people who don't want the control either way, but would rather control themselves in freedom, who are resisting you controllers.

Do you actually read what I write?
Your answer has absolutely no link to mine. I was saying that it's a bit stupid to talk about people control because it's ALWAYS the case. The main point of human society IS to control humans.

If you don't even take the time to read and understand others word, don't bother replying neither.

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Quote from: BADecker on February 04, 2016, 01:49:12 PM

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Quote from: Moloch on February 03, 2016, 02:52:11 PM

Why do you think so many mass shootings occur at a school, or other "gun free zone"?

The answer is that the crazy person knows it will be less likely that anyone will shoot back...

No, that's probably not the reason.
They choose the schools because they hate the people there.

So the heavily-armed-teacher, staff, IDF & police schools in Israel are being shot up by Daesh at the same rate or worse than the "gun-free teacher, staff, and AWOL police officer zones" in the US?

It's also why you can't have just a part of a country which is gun free. You need the whole country to be gun free or without gun control, cause if you set gun free zones, criminals and citizens will easily get guns by just going out and back of the zone.

But in all this posting, you need to remember one major thing. The gun control that we are generally talking about in this thread is not really gun control. Rather, it is people control - people controlling other people.

Well we're in a society. It's all about human interactions of course. You can't control anything else but human actions, what else could you do?

It's a bit a sneaky reasoning, you can apply this definition to EVERY decision taken by any kind of society. Not that it's wrong, but that is ALWAYS true, so not very interesting.

If you like being controlled by other people, you will fit into the gun control scenario very well.

If you like controlling other people, you will fit into the gun control scenario very well.

It's people who don't want the control either way, but would rather control themselves in freedom, who are resisting you controllers.

You know I see you in lots of threads and talking a lot, but I always get the impression that when you answer you don't really read what the other users write. Cause you're answers are always vague and not exactly on the subject.

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Quote from: darkangel11 on February 04, 2016, 03:00:44 PM

I'm for gun control in the means that convicted criminals and children should not have access to it. Besides that people have the right to protect themselves and should be able to own guns.

IIRC there is a Texas law that a convicted felon should be allowed to keep firearms in his own home for personal protection. In the 19th century it was considered unjust that having served his time, he should be freed only to be defenseless when marauding bands of Indians came around.

Just thought that might be of interest. That law is still on the books, and conflicts with US Federal law. One of those things the powers that be don't want tested in court.

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I'm for gun control in the means that convicted criminals and children should not have access to it. Besides that people have the right to protect themselves and should be able to own guns.

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Quote from: Schleicher on February 03, 2016, 06:27:14 PM

Quote from: Moloch on February 03, 2016, 02:52:11 PM

Why do you think so many mass shootings occur at a school, or other "gun free zone"?

The answer is that the crazy person knows it will be less likely that anyone will shoot back...

No, that's probably not the reason.
They choose the schools because they hate the people there.

A few of them might be so fearless that they would choose schools anyway. But if the schools were not gun free, both the terrorists that attack the schools, along with the potential terrorists who are students at the schools, would be dead in short order.

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Quote from: TECSHARE on January 27, 2016, 08:03:03 PM

Quote from: eon89 on January 27, 2016, 03:53:30 PM

There are countries where guns are not allowed and where people haven't even heard a gun shot. But no, the US knows better. Because John Wayne fans want to be all cowboys.

... and all French men ride bicycles around wearing a horizontal black and white striped shirt and a beret with a loaf of french bread under their arm, and a wedge of cheese in their hand and a bottle of wine under the other arm while they twirl their mustaches.

Any other stereotypes derived from entertainment media you would like to throw out there to justify your opinions?

I agree with U! Stop whit your stereotypes Angry

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As if all Americans were like this ...

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Quote from: valta4065 on February 04, 2016, 08:05:11 AM

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Quote from: TheButterZone on February 03, 2016, 09:47:22 PM

Quote from: Schleicher on February 03, 2016, 06:27:14 PM

Quote from: Moloch on February 03, 2016, 02:52:11 PM

Why do you think so many mass shootings occur at a school, or other "gun free zone"?

The answer is that the crazy person knows it will be less likely that anyone will shoot back...

No, that's probably not the reason.
They choose the schools because they hate the people there.

So the heavily-armed-teacher, staff, IDF & police schools in Israel are being shot up by Daesh at the same rate or worse than the "gun-free teacher, staff, and AWOL police officer zones" in the US?

It's also why you can't have just a part of a country which is gun free. You need the whole country to be gun free or without gun control, cause if you set gun free zones, criminals and citizens will easily get guns by just going out and back of the zone.

But in all this posting, you need to remember one major thing. The gun control that we are generally talking about in this thread is not really gun control. Rather, it is people control - people controlling other people.

Well we're in a society. It's all about human interactions of course. You can't control anything else but human actions, what else could you do?

It's a bit a sneaky reasoning, you can apply this definition to EVERY decision taken by any kind of society. Not that it's wrong, but that is ALWAYS true, so not very interesting.

If you like being controlled by other people, you will fit into the gun control scenario very well.

If you like controlling other people, you will fit into the gun control scenario very well.

It's people who don't want the control either way, but would rather control themselves in freedom, who are resisting you controllers.

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Quote from: BADecker on February 04, 2016, 04:40:52 AM

Quote from: valta4065 on February 04, 2016, 04:01:03 AM

Quote from: TheButterZone on February 03, 2016, 09:47:22 PM

Quote from: Schleicher on February 03, 2016, 06:27:14 PM

Quote from: Moloch on February 03, 2016, 02:52:11 PM

Why do you think so many mass shootings occur at a school, or other "gun free zone"?

The answer is that the crazy person knows it will be less likely that anyone will shoot back...

No, that's probably not the reason.
They choose the schools because they hate the people there.

So the heavily-armed-teacher, staff, IDF & police schools in Israel are being shot up by Daesh at the same rate or worse than the "gun-free teacher, staff, and AWOL police officer zones" in the US?

It's also why you can't have just a part of a country which is gun free. You need the whole country to be gun free or without gun control, cause if you set gun free zones, criminals and citizens will easily get guns by just going out and back of the zone.

But in all this posting, you need to remember one major thing. The gun control that we are generally talking about in this thread is not really gun control. Rather, it is people control - people controlling other people.

Well we're in a society. It's all about human interactions of course. You can't control anything else but human actions, what else could you do?

It's a bit a sneaky reasoning, you can apply this definition to EVERY decision taken by any kind of society. Not that it's wrong, but that is ALWAYS true, so not very interesting.

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Quote from: BADecker on February 04, 2016, 04:40:52 AM

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Quote from: TheButterZone on February 03, 2016, 09:47:22 PM

Quote from: Schleicher on February 03, 2016, 06:27:14 PM

Quote from: Moloch on February 03, 2016, 02:52:11 PM

Why do you think so many mass shootings occur at a school, or other "gun free zone"?

The answer is that the crazy person knows it will be less likely that anyone will shoot back...

No, that's probably not the reason.
They choose the schools because they hate the people there.

So the heavily-armed-teacher, staff, IDF & police schools in Israel are being shot up by Daesh at the same rate or worse than the "gun-free teacher, staff, and AWOL police officer zones" in the US?

It's also why you can't have just a part of a country which is gun free. You need the whole country to be gun free or without gun control, cause if you set gun free zones, criminals and citizens will easily get guns by just going out and back of the zone.

But in all this posting, you need to remember one major thing. The gun control that we are generally talking about in this thread is not really gun control. Rather, it is people control - people controlling other people.

No, it's animal control. Wolves controlling sheep, all the way to their own democide, as seen in Germany prior to the end of WWII.

Right.

In America, because of the way the legal system is set up, the wolves need to be a lot sneakier about to make it work.

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Quote from: BADecker on February 04, 2016, 04:40:52 AM

Quote from: valta4065 on February 04, 2016, 04:01:03 AM

Quote from: TheButterZone on February 03, 2016, 09:47:22 PM

Quote from: Schleicher on February 03, 2016, 06:27:14 PM

Quote from: Moloch on February 03, 2016, 02:52:11 PM

Why do you think so many mass shootings occur at a school, or other "gun free zone"?

The answer is that the crazy person knows it will be less likely that anyone will shoot back...

No, that's probably not the reason.
They choose the schools because they hate the people there.

So the heavily-armed-teacher, staff, IDF & police schools in Israel are being shot up by Daesh at the same rate or worse than the "gun-free teacher, staff, and AWOL police officer zones" in the US?

It's also why you can't have just a part of a country which is gun free. You need the whole country to be gun free or without gun control, cause if you set gun free zones, criminals and citizens will easily get guns by just going out and back of the zone.

But in all this posting, you need to remember one major thing. The gun control that we are generally talking about in this thread is not really gun control. Rather, it is people control - people controlling other people.

No, it's animal control. Wolves controlling sheep, all the way to their own democide, as seen in Germany prior to the end of WWII.

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Quote from: valta4065 on February 04, 2016, 04:01:03 AM

Quote from: TheButterZone on February 03, 2016, 09:47:22 PM

Quote from: Schleicher on February 03, 2016, 06:27:14 PM

Quote from: Moloch on February 03, 2016, 02:52:11 PM

Why do you think so many mass shootings occur at a school, or other "gun free zone"?

The answer is that the crazy person knows it will be less likely that anyone will shoot back...

No, that's probably not the reason.
They choose the schools because they hate the people there.

So the heavily-armed-teacher, staff, IDF & police schools in Israel are being shot up by Daesh at the same rate or worse than the "gun-free teacher, staff, and AWOL police officer zones" in the US?

It's also why you can't have just a part of a country which is gun free. You need the whole country to be gun free or without gun control, cause if you set gun free zones, criminals and citizens will easily get guns by just going out and back of the zone.

But in all this posting, you need to remember one major thing. The gun control that we are generally talking about in this thread is not really gun control. Rather, it is people control - people controlling other people.

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Quote from: TheButterZone on February 03, 2016, 09:47:22 PM

Quote from: Schleicher on February 03, 2016, 06:27:14 PM

Quote from: Moloch on February 03, 2016, 02:52:11 PM

Why do you think so many mass shootings occur at a school, or other "gun free zone"?

The answer is that the crazy person knows it will be less likely that anyone will shoot back...

No, that's probably not the reason.
They choose the schools because they hate the people there.

So the heavily-armed-teacher, staff, IDF & police schools in Israel are being shot up by Daesh at the same rate or worse than the "gun-free teacher, staff, and AWOL police officer zones" in the US?

It's also why you can't have just a part of a country which is gun free. You need the whole country to be gun free or without gun control, cause if you set gun free zones, criminals and citizens will easily get guns by just going out and back of the zone.

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Quote from: Schleicher on February 03, 2016, 06:27:14 PM

Quote from: Moloch on February 03, 2016, 02:52:11 PM

Why do you think so many mass shootings occur at a school, or other "gun free zone"?

The answer is that the crazy person knows it will be less likely that anyone will shoot back...

No, that's probably not the reason.
They choose the schools because they hate the people there.

So the heavily-armed-teacher, staff, IDF & police schools in Israel are being shot up by Daesh at the same rate or worse than the "gun-free teacher, staff, and AWOL police officer zones" in the US?

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Quote from: Schleicher on February 03, 2016, 07:04:22 PM

Quote from: Moloch on February 03, 2016, 01:17:44 PM

Quote from: mOgliE on February 03, 2016, 01:12:22 PM

Hmm... We were not comparing gun deaths but violent crime rates. And they were much higher in the USA than in European countries where strict gun control is applied.

Like how Violent Crime increased in the UK as a direct result of banning guns?

How do you explain this one?

http://www.gunfacts.info/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/GUNS-IN-OTHER-COUNTRIES-U.K.-Violent-Crime-and-Firearm-Ownership-Rates-Before-and-After-1997.png

That's easy to explain: the police changed the counting method.

I am so glad that we are counting less now. Maybe we could change the rules again, and lower the counts even further? It would be so nice to live in a nice world where guns meant less crime. Isn't this true, if we make it seem like it's true?

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Quote from: Moloch on February 03, 2016, 01:17:44 PM

Quote from: mOgliE on February 03, 2016, 01:12:22 PM

Hmm... We were not comparing gun deaths but violent crime rates. And they were much higher in the USA than in European countries where strict gun control is applied.

Like how Violent Crime increased in the UK as a direct result of banning guns?

How do you explain this one?

http://www.gunfacts.info/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/GUNS-IN-OTHER-COUNTRIES-U.K.-Violent-Crime-and-Firearm-Ownership-Rates-Before-and-After-1997.png

That's easy to explain: the police changed the counting method.

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Quote from: Moloch on February 03, 2016, 02:52:11 PM

Why do you think so many mass shootings occur at a school, or other "gun free zone"?

The answer is that the crazy person knows it will be less likely that anyone will shoot back...

No, that's probably not the reason.
They choose the schools because they hate the people there.

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Why do you think so many mass shootings occur at a school, or other "gun free zone"?

The answer is that the crazy person knows it will be less likely that anyone will shoot back...

That's the sad reality... if they shoot up a school, they can kill 50 people before anyone stops them... if they tried that crap in the hood, they'd get killed before they got to 10...

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