Topic: What's your opinion of gun control? - page 147. (Read 450551 times)

Not sure I understand your point then...

In what is Michael Moore wrong? Can't a barber sell guns if he gots the license? Doesn't it seem like totally crazy that more or less anyone can sell guns and anyone can buy some? Cause that's what I understood from your link ^^'

This is an issue all to itself - lethality of force - how much and when?

Generally speaking, the answer is guns, not tasers or other types of non lethal weapons.

The reason is that if you must protect your life, or that of your loved ones, the non lethal options are not sufficiently reliable.  Take a look at youtube.  You will see people tasering themselves and showing that they can take it, same with stun guns and pepper spray.  These are better than nothing, but they are not a match for firearms for personal safety.

And just who is going to take the guns away? Will he be able to do it without using guns? You better have guns around so that you can stand on somewhat of an equal footing with all who would use guns on you, especially if they come to take your guns away. Of course, you could always just lie down and die...

Actually, this is not true at all.  Someone with 100 guns is a "collector."  No different from someone who collects antique teapots, in my opinion.  Now someone who has 100 guns and is on the ISIS websites everyday....

I'm not saying that people should not protect themselves. But at the same time protection doesn't have to come in the shape of a AK-47 when going to buy bread. I wouldn't go to that store again if I saw a customer like that again. You can protect yourself with mace, a tazer or any other type of non-lethal weapon. You need to get out safe of that harmful situation, not to permanently put the attacker into the ground. At least that's my opinion.

You said it, not me.

There are two kinds of people in this world - the violent, and the peaceful. However, both kinds have built into them the will to live... the desire for self protection.

If we all had guns equally, the violent people would do one of two things. They would either die at the hands of the peaceful people who were protecting themselves from the violence of the violent, or they would become peaceful people so they would not die.

Among peaceful people, guns are not important when there is no need.

So your solution is to get more guns and in turn to kill other people? Isn't that exactly the thing we want to avoid? Wouldn't that turn you into a murderer as well? I see no one here talking about non-lethal solutions. Why is that?

It sholud be controlled who and when buy guns, and how much..for example if somebody has 100 guns it sholud be good to pay attention on him..also must be see if the person has a criminal record.

First right of people is right for living!
If you want to have right to protect your rights first you must protect your life!

what the hell you talking about?  The specific rights acquired by someone getting the Federal Firearms License is to sell guns as a dealer.  It has nothing at all to do with the local police department.

This affirms several aspects of the right to possess guns as laid out in our constitution.

Looks like we need a lot more guns to protect ourselves from GOVERNMENT MURDERERS who murder us in the name of a government that doesn't allow murder. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.13717719

Ok so I took the time to read PARTS of your link. Yeah parts because it's deep and heavy legislation text in English and sorry but I took some times to read what seemed important, I' to me so I might have omitted some things. If you're not happy with that then go read the whole French legislation to have an idea of how difficult it is for a non native English speaker ><

And... Well it perfectly confirms Michael Moore documentary sorry. I don't see any "propaganda" in what he made. The very basis of owning a firearm dealer license is "Is not prohibited from shipping, transporting, receiving or possessing firearms or ammunition, nor in the case of a corporation, partnership, or association, is any individual possessing, directly or indirectly, the power to direct or cause the direction of the management and policies of the corporation, partnership, or association prohibited from shipping, transporting, receiving or possessing firearms or ammunition;"

So in short, not doing anything illegal. Which means that more or less any business can sell weapons and bullets if the local police force allows it.

I don't see the propaganda here. Again, I'm trying to be humble as I'm pretty sure I don't understood everything of the USA legislation, but all I see is an incredible freedom of firearms.

No cause you can't defend yourself. Whereas if you own a gun, the society becomes much less violent and violent crimes and rapes are less frequent!




Oh wait.... In fact... No... 

My only opinion is that people can do whatever they want. But going around with deadly weapons is not something that they should be allowed to do. You can be free and happy without a gun.

... and all French men ride bicycles around wearing a horizontal black and white striped shirt and a beret with a loaf of french bread under their arm, and a wedge of cheese in their hand and a bottle of wine under the other arm while they twirl their mustaches.



Any other stereotypes derived from entertainment media you would like to throw out there to justify your opinions?

Lots of control. Put all people into strait-jackets. Let robots do all the labor, and force feed people and wipe their rears.

I mean. Where do we draw the line. People are going to die of old age anyway. Let them be totally free while they are alive so they can enjoy life.

Need people control more.

Because people want to be free, especially from government, and John Wayne cowboy films are the embodiment of freedom in the West where there was no government at that time.

There are countries where guns are not allowed and where people haven't even heard a gun shot. But no, the US knows better. Because John Wayne fans want to be all cowboys.

One of the most freedom/slavery important things about people control is, getting people to think that they should be controlled by someone else. And the way it works is like this.


Why do I want someone else to be controlled regarding guns? And why does someone else want me to be controlled regarding speech freedom? Because government people have used our tax dollars to propagandize both of us into thinking that there is something inherently bad and dangerous about the way the other person thinks. Government is making us think that freedom is inherently a bad thing.

Why is government doing this? Government ISN'T doing it. Government is words on paper. Words on paper can't get up and do anything. SHREWD PEOPLE in government are using government paperwork to make it look like they have the right and wisdom to remove our freedoms from us.

Then they send trolls to this forum to make freedom-removal/gun-control look like a good thing.