Topic: What's your opinion of gun control? - page 143. (Read 450551 times)

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Agreed. Criminals won't apply to this law. And I'm saying this even if I, personally, am against guns.
And a dog will always be a better alternative to a gun. No doubt about it.

My dog did not need training.  He is a good watchdog and will attack anyone who attacks me.
Autonomous lethal weapon?  What are you talking about?  I guess you hate dogs.

A simple fact is that it is always better to go into a gun fight with a gun in your hand.  So if you preach banning of guns you are preaching killing of innocent people who cannot defend themselves.  Banning gun laws only apply to people who obey the laws.  Criminals don't obey them.
You still should control who is allowed (by law) to own a gun but you cannot control who gets the gun illegally.

My advise was to get a good watchdog dog and a dog for personal protection (like German Shepherd).  What is wrong with that?  

It is. Roads are open, no control, no border. You get the same rights, the same possibilities. You can open a bank account, buy a house, work...

Just the civic duties and rights which are not the same. You wouldn't have the right to take an election for example, and some works are forbiden to stranger too, like being a judge or working at the government.

But it's more or less all the same.

no, it is not....

Get the right dog, train it.  My dog detects strangers within 20-30 ft of my house.  Only barks when there is danger (in his mind).  You would not want to challenge him even if you were packing.  He would finish any intruder in matter of seconds.  Before you could squeeze that trigger he would be tearing your aorta apart. I've seen him in action once with porcupine, it was less than a second affair. I was standing 10-15 ft away looking at it, but could not understand what happened.  Before I realized what happened, the porcupine was lying next to my leg dead.  I remember a big jump, few moves left/right and boom, game over.

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BTW, people who think their Glock or Mossberg will save them from violent home invasions have no imagination.

Get one small dog as a watchdog and a German Shepherd to keep intruders busy.  B&E kids will not enter your house if they hear big dog barking, even if they are armed.  They will go down the street to find an easier target.

no, it is not....

It's as easy to go from Spain to France than to go from California to Texas.

Problem with the idea of gun control in the USA is that it's too late...

Of course gun control is a rather good thing I think. It brings more security in  a society. But for that you need to be in a society where guns aren't already spread absolutely EVRYWHERE else control can't be applied!

I already explained why my statement was correct.

Thousands of children drown each year, why is it people such as yourself are not rallying to ban swimming pools? Would banning swimming pools not reduce the rate of accidental child deaths much more than banning guns? Why is this less of an issue to you? Perhaps your own bias against and ignorance of firearms?

http://www.cdc.gov/Features/dsSafeSwimmingPool/

Of course there are not... How would you want the feds to report that?

If there is no accident and everything is fine, who is gonna warn the police? This is a stupid remark!
I mean you could apply that to everyone and everything...

"why doesn't any report about homicides talk about all the times when two people argue without shooting each other?"
Well just because I'm not going to report the police "hey! Nothing happen, we argued a lot but didn't shoot!"

That's random dude.

I just don't exactly see other reasons explaining such a difference, and especially not the "USA is more diversified" bullshit of Tecshare which is not only insulting for the whole EU but also based on absolutely nothing as far as I can see.

He who claims proves, and your proof is not very compelling, especially considering how large and diverse the US is compared to these other countries.



Unfortunately all of Europe is not a country. Europe is a collection of countries all with different policies, laws, cultures, ethnic groups, population densities, taxes, and national budgets. Europe is subdivided into many smaller nations. The USA is ONE SINGLE NATION composed of more than 300 million people, all of them from different places all over the globe.

In France there are native French who all share a common culture. In Spain there are native Spanish that all share a common culture. In Sweden there are Swedish who all share a common culture. This provides for more cooperation and understanding within local communities that the USA does not share because it consists of one single, very large nation upon which it is illogical to impose laws which might otherwise be effective for your otherwise tiny and more culturally homogeneous nations. Of course this whole side topic itself is a strawman argument, but this time I actually did make this claim, so I felt I should defend it regardless of your fallacious diversionary tactics.

I don't understand how a child can kill himself or hurt anyone with a gun.

I mean, I'm not a gun specialist but most firearm aren't exactly easy to use! You need some strength in the fingers to pull the trigger!
I'm not sure I would have been able to do it when I was a child xD

And how do you ensure that children have no access to guns?

Sadly enough, around 60 children die each year just because they found a gun somewhere. I know it seems not a lot, and it sure isn't compared to the millions of inhabitants. But what does a life is worth? Especially a child life.

And 60 is the federal estimation, most other institutes have MUCH HIGHER data. But even the federal one is too much I think  

http://everytownresearch.org/reports/innocents_lost/

Note how there are NEVER any reports of any child firing a gun WITHOUT an "accidental" fatality, NEVER just an injury, NEVER zero bloodshed at all, even. This is because children find the few guns with feather trigger pulls that fire magic bullets that instantly kill with a single shot when pointed in a safe direction.

These children are finding the few guns with feather trigger pulls that fire magic bullets that instantly kill with a single shot when pointed in a safe direction.