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legendary
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September 16, 2017, 04:17:46 PM
i supportit because i think only one must have gun is ARMY

What about the Marines, Navy, and Air Force? They can't have guns too?  Cheesy Cheesy

Ironically enough, most US military installations are essentially gun free zones. That is in the process of being changed under the new commander in chief.
legendary
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September 16, 2017, 12:47:05 PM

i supportit because i think only one must have gun is ARMY

At the moment it's not the army alone who have access to guns, criminals all have access to guns and weapons that causes numerous loss of lives, if they have these weapons, what about the law abiding citizens who is going to protect them when these goons attacks them.

And it's not like the 'army' of any country has ever abused their power or anything like that.  That would be unthinkable.

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September 16, 2017, 12:35:04 PM
i supportit because i think only one must have gun is ARMY

What about the Marines, Navy, and Air Force? They can't have guns too?  Cheesy Cheesy
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September 16, 2017, 12:26:00 PM
i supportit because i think only one must have gun is ARMY
At the moment it's not the army alone who have access to guns, criminals all have access to guns and weapons that causes numerous loss of lives, if they have these weapons, what about the law abiding citizens who is going to protect them when these goons attacks them.
legendary
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September 16, 2017, 12:10:00 PM
Gun control is not and never has been about safety, social problems, or workable solutions. It is a pure and simple attempt at people control. We have enumerated freedoms in the Constitution for a reason. We are free citizens, not subjects of a potentate who bow to his imperial will, and we plan to stay that way.

And as free people, when all the States or cities make gun laws, we must do the following. And we must do it because the 2nd Amendment says they aren't supposed to control guns at all.

Individually file a claim against every man and woman that makes or upholds gun infringement in any way. File the claim person to person for personal threat of bodily harm = injury.

Amendments 6, 7, 9, and 10 allow us to do this, with a jury, outside of judges' opinions, with the judge as a court referee only.

There are several places in law that state that in a person to person claim in a court of record, the judge is not part of the tribunal. The tribunal is made up of the claimant, the claimee, and the jury. The judge is referee for order only, and has no judging authority, and should not give his opinions or instructions other than for order in the court.

If the judge injures you in your court battle by instructing the jury, or by disallowing pertinent evidence, or by limiting witnesses, or any other way, file a claim against the man/woman ACTING as a judge.

Time for us to stand up against the reduction of a whole lot of our rights. Time to do it by using their law against them outside of a court where they have control. Do it in a court of record, where they lose their governmental office, and where it is a man-to-man court in front of an impartial jury.

See Corpus Juris Secundum volume 25 section 344 which shows that a court of record is not a statute court, but proceeds under common law - law regarding personal injury man-to-man.

Peruse http://new.oregontrackers.com/.

Cool
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September 16, 2017, 11:28:44 AM
Gun control is not and never has been about safety, social problems, or workable solutions. It is a pure and simple attempt at people control. We have enumerated freedoms in the Constitution for a reason. We are free citizens, not subjects of a potentate who bow to his imperial will, and we plan to stay that way.
legendary
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September 16, 2017, 11:21:14 AM
i supportit because i think only one must have gun is ARMY

You're in the military.    Cool
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September 16, 2017, 04:06:19 AM
i supportit because i think only one must have gun is ARMY
legendary
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September 15, 2017, 02:11:38 PM
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I just gonna quote the following from the daily mail article for the luls:

-Gun deaths cost the economy roughly $164.6 billion (1.1% of the GDP)


Just trying (and failing) to enforce gun confiscation laws would cost vastly more than that.  Add to that the fact that Joe Citizen protects himself and his property for very little cost to society by having a defensive capability.  Trying to arrange something remotely approaching is level of protection through para-militaries would be vastly more expensive and come with it's own very severe risks of failure.

-United States has a higher number of deaths by firearms than any other industrialized nation in the world


We've got a lot of problems.  Giving private citizens to tools to protect themselves is probably the only reason things work as well as they do here.

Also, I would not really classify the U.S. as an 'industrialized nation' at this point.  The globalist social engineers are working hard to 'de-industrialize' the U.S., and succeeding, so I think it fair to label ourselves a 'de-industrializing nation.'  From a social engineering standpoint there is a huge difference.

Because it is from 2010 i would imagine the situation to be much worst now  (e.g. Black & muslim lives matter)

The us has clearly no problem. Autist kids and gangsta niggaz.

The BLM and Muslim population movement operations may well be working as well here as they are in Sweden if we law abiding citizens didn't have protection.  Indeed, the driving force behind gun restrictions seem to be the same people who seek to engineer such problems so it is entirely unsurprising that they are every bit as desperate to remove this 2nd amendment stumbling block as they seem.

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September 15, 2017, 01:13:15 PM
I definitely agree the US has a gun violence problem. I just don't know what the solution is. Banning guns or more gun laws won't help. The best thing to do is at least give law abiding people a chance to defend themselves.
legendary
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September 14, 2017, 04:16:39 PM

Gun control should be implemented since the number of cases of killings involving the use of gun here in our country has been continuously increasing. The government should implement a more strict law regarding gun control. And must be more strict on giving out license to those individuals who wants to own a gun.

Not sure what country you are in, but here in the U.S. it is not a problem:



10/100,000 is hardly what I would consider a crisis.  If the number of cancer cases were plotted on the same graph it would be up in the 30,000/100,000 range.  That seems to me a much bigger issue.  Same with autism which is, for some reason, skyrocketing over my lifetime.  Like from 1/10,000 to 1/60-ish.  Me thinks that people who are all worried about gun violence are brainwashed into barking up the wrong tree and wasting their worry budget on a non-issue.

I would also count out suicide since people who are serious about it have a multitude of options.  Doing so reduces the 10/100,000 non-issue to 5/100,000.



(2010 figures apparently...it was just the first thing I pulled up to make the point.)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2879650/Study-shows-annual-gun-deaths-United-States-catching-killed-car-crashes.html



I just gonna quote the following from the daily mail article for the luls:

-Gun deaths cost the economy roughly $164.6 billion (1.1% of the GDP)

-United States has a higher number of deaths by firearms than any other industrialized nation in the world

Because it is from 2010 i would imagine the situation to be much worst now  (e.g. Black & muslim lives matter)

The us has clearly no problem. Autist kids and gangsta niggaz.
legendary
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September 14, 2017, 09:08:55 AM
Of course in reality the policy is driven by people who don't wish law abiding citizens to have guns.  Criminals having guns and terrorizing normal citizens is very much in their interest.  In fact, anything terrorizing normal citizens is in their interest since the (usually false) promise of arranging protection is how they justify their power.  I'd bet money that in a 'gun free' America, if the supply of guns did actually start drying to the point where criminals couldn't get them, the powers that be would resolve the problem by making guns available to criminals.  Maybe through operations such as 'fast and furious'.  Maybe simply be fostering corruption of law enforcement.  Probably both.

 A prime example of this is Leland Yee, a former Democratic California State Senator for District 8 and gun control advocate.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leland_Yee

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Yee was a vocal advocate for gun control, both before and while engaged in gun running. During sentencing, Federal District Judge Charles Beyer called Yee’s actions “vile” and the arms dealings particularly “hypocritical” given the politician’s history of gun control. In 2006 Yee was named to the Gun Violence Prevention Honor Roll by the Brady Campaign for his efforts that included co-authoring a first-in-the-nation bill to require new semiautomatic handguns be equipped with ballistics identification technology known as micro-stamping. In May 2012, together with Kevin de León, Yee proposed legislation to ban any semi-automatic rifle that used a bullet button that makes the rifle a "fixed magazine rifle." SB 249 would ban conversion kits and rifles. According to his press release, "Absent this bill, California's assault weapon ban is significantly weakened. For the safety of the general public, we must close this loophole." Yee is quoted as saying, "It is extremely important that individuals in the state of California do not own assault weapons. I mean that is just so crystal clear, there is no debate, no discussion
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In response to the gun running and other criminal charges against him, the California State Senate suspended Yee as a Senator on March 28, 2014. On July 1, 2015, Yee pleaded guilty to a felony racketeering count in relation to money laundering, public corruption and bribery in a San Francisco Chinatown organized crime case. On February 24, 2016, Yee was sentenced to five years in federal prison. As of March 25, 2016, Yee is incarcerated at FCI Ft Worth.

Never trust a politician who wants to take away your firearms.   
legendary
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September 14, 2017, 12:07:15 AM

this issue rose up because even there is a strict policy to buy a gun, there are incidents of deaths resulting from using license gun. IMO, even if you are sane and very careful in bringing or using gun. if there is a time that you cant control yourself ( i believe it always happens to every people once in their lives) out of anger and you have your gun with you, you are still capable of killing people. so yes this gun control should be impose to every countries in the world.

So what do you propose they do about the millions of guns already out in the public?

In the US there are approximately 300 million guns that the general public owns.

If you make them illegal and say turn them in do you think they will magically disappear and we will never see another gun again?

It is impossible to get rid of them.

As best I can tell, the anti-gun people who have powers of reason at all figure that after a couple hundred years of mayhem where only criminals have guns, the supply will eventually dry up and we'll have the promised violence-free utopia.

Of course in reality the policy is driven by people who don't wish law abiding citizens to have guns.  Criminals having guns and terrorizing normal citizens is very much in their interest.  In fact, anything terrorizing normal citizens is in their interest since the (usually false) promise of arranging protection is how they justify their power.  I'd bet money that in a 'gun free' America, if the supply of guns did actually start drying to the point where criminals couldn't get them, the powers that be would resolve the problem by making guns available to criminals.  Maybe through operations such as 'fast and furious'.  Maybe simply be fostering corruption of law enforcement.  Probably both.

newbie
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September 13, 2017, 10:20:22 PM
I am against, for a thousand year everyone had guns!
legendary
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September 13, 2017, 09:53:15 PM
If police can't protect me so I do it by myself

In my country, we have 1 policeman for every 10,000 people. In the neighboring nations also, the case is the same (or even worse). You can't expect one guy to look after 10,000 people. Even in developed nations, were the ratio is around 1:1,000, we have crimes occurring. And another problem here is that some of the policemen themselves are corrupt and criminal minded.
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September 13, 2017, 08:16:38 PM
this issue rose up because even there is a strict policy to buy a gun, there are incidents of deaths resulting from using license gun. IMO, even if you are sane and very careful in bringing or using gun. if there is a time that you cant control yourself ( i believe it always happens to every people once in their lives) out of anger and you have your gun with you, you are still capable of killing people. so yes this gun control should be impose to every countries in the world.

So what do you propose they do about the millions of guns already out in the public?

In the US there are approximately 300 million guns that the general public owns.

If you make them illegal and say turn them in do you think they will magically disappear and we will never see another gun again?

It is impossible to get rid of them.

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September 13, 2017, 03:28:12 PM
this issue rose up because even there is a strict policy to buy a gun, there are incidents of deaths resulting from using license gun. IMO, even if you are sane and very careful in bringing or using gun. if there is a time that you cant control yourself ( i believe it always happens to every people once in their lives) out of anger and you have your gun with you, you are still capable of killing people. so yes this gun control should be impose to every countries in the world.
legendary
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September 13, 2017, 08:31:24 AM
The police can't protect individuals from violent crime. Say some thug breaks into my house in the middle of the night. I could call the police and if I am lucky they would be there in fifteen minutes and by then my family could be dead. With a gun I can protect myself instantly.

That is correct.  The police are not going to be there to protect you or your family.  They will take pictures of your dead body and fill out a report.  Doesn't that make you feel safe?   Tongue

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September 13, 2017, 05:33:22 AM
I am totally with the gun control. I don't want any idiot to walk around with gun. Only security forces should be able to carry weapons. I don't understand the self protection excuse , protecting the it's people is the first duty of governmets. If you do not fell safe , vote for another group in the elections.

The police can't protect individuals from violent crime. Say some thug breaks into my house in the middle of the night. I could call the police and if I am lucky they would be there in fifteen minutes and by then my family could be dead. With a gun I can protect myself instantly.
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September 13, 2017, 04:27:59 AM
I am totally with the gun control. I don't want any idiot to walk around with gun. Only security forces should be able to carry weapons. I don't understand the self protection excuse , protecting the it's people is the first duty of governmets. If you do not fell safe , vote for another group in the elections.
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