Topic: Wheat War I is going to be World War III (Read 6278 times)

I agree with you over the WWIII prediction - but one thing I am sure is that the powers are killing the innocent people and they have no remorse
People can eat less and survive but they hardly survive the loss of their loved one - which kills them mentally and phlysically

if wheat is the problem, then replace wheat with other staple foods.

wheat is not the only food in this world.

Pakistan has approved a deal to import 300,000 tonnes of what from Russia:

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/11/1/pakistan-approves-deal-to-import-300000-tonnes-of-russian-wheat

The former prime minister of Pakistan (Imran Khan) has been very critical of the decision by the current regime to comply with sanctions against Russia. He is claiming that this has led to inflation at home, and the weakening of the national currency. Government made the move to purchase Russian wheat after protests from Mr.Khan. BTW, India has removed the export ban on wheat and exported grain worth $1.48 billion during Q2 2022. This has helped to bring down the global prices.

The problem, first of all, is that Putin's Russia does not recognize other negotiations, except for negotiations on its enslaving terms, it wants to secure the territories occupied in Ukraine, and above all the Crimean peninsula. Such conditions are unacceptable for Ukraine. Moreover, every day Russia commits terrorist acts against Ukraine, firing missiles at the peaceful cities of Ukraine and their inhabitants. More than 4,500 cruise missiles have already been fired across Ukraine, not counting the daily shelling of civilian infrastructure with artillery, MLRS and other military equipment. Therefore, Ukraine has already stated that it will not negotiate with the Putin regime.

And there are good reasons for this. During the eight months of the war, the Russian regular army of approximately 270,000 men, which invaded Ukraine in February, has now been practically defeated by the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Russia already has an acute shortage of both manpower and weapons. Therefore, Putin announced mobilization and asks for weapons in Belarus, Iran, China and North Korea. But neither the mobilization of "fresh unprepared meat" nor foreign weapons will save the Putin regime. Mobilization has only sharply exacerbated the internal contradictions in Russia and may become the cause of its collapse.

In the last ten days alone, since October 21, Russia has lost 6520 people killed, 141 tanks, 267 armored vehicles, 8 aircraft, 15 helicopters and other equipment, as well as a significant part of its Black Sea Fleet.

Yes, this is a global issue. I think the government in this regard is very responsible and on the other hand many Agronomists and researchers are constantly working to increase yields and expand crop production but other problems that they cannot cover are increasing water scarcity, depletion of arable land and other big problems.

I remember that the law of 'Demand Supply' will be very positive when it comes to food crisis if it arrives at the right time (Point 6).

It seems that if you want peace, you have to eliminate each other's egos and not feel the weakest or strongest, because if this dichotomy is expressed, no one will want to be blamed for sure. let the past not need to be brought up for a while as long as the negotiations have not been carried out and want to be carried out.
The role of the security council is very important and I agree with that, so that whatever will be done can be known and who violates the peace can be subject to sanctions.
what is needed now is to stop the war first and sit down in negotiations, the impact that has occurred will be discussed later when peace has occurred.

interference from other countries must be stopped immediately, so that nothing will add to the difficulty of the negotiations when they are about to be carried out.
#peace #nowar

Wheat prices are currently hovering at around $320-325 per tonne, which is around 100% higher than the levels we had in 2020. And the disruption has affected Russian wheat exports as well. Americans have blackmailed poorer nations not to purchase Russian grain, and Turkey is creating issues for Russian grain shipments in the Bosporus. And it is not just wheat. Corn, sunflower oil, barley and soybean oil prices are up after the deal was cancelled by Russia. And we have to remember that fertilizer supplies are also running low, due to issues related to potash fertilizer transport from Russia and Belarus, and also due to the high natural gas prices (impacting Ammonia fertilizer).

Disruption in the grain shipment is going to increase the pressure on global food situation again and the more the conflict between Russia and Ukraine intensifies as they both use this safe trade route to attack each other the worse the situation is going to get.

The only positive news is that other countries aren't reacting to this like the first time (when they halted exports entirely) so there may not be the same shortage and price rise like that time.

The problem of food shortages will only grow with time. However, it was Putin's Russia that sharply exacerbated this problem with its military attack on Ukraine and the blockade of Ukraine's seaports this year. As a result, more than 21 million tons of grain and other agricultural products have accumulated in the ports of Ukraine, which it could not export to other countries under previously concluded agreements. At the initiative of Ukraine, the UN got involved in resolving this issue, and Russia was forced, through the mediation of Turkey, to conclude an agreement on the unhindered export of grain from the ports of Ukraine.

On October 29, the Russian Ministry of Defense announced the suspension of participation in the implementation of the grain corridor. As a reason, they named the attack of drones on the Russian Black Sea Fleet in Sevastopol on October 29, in which the Russian Federation accused Ukraine and Great Britain. As a result of a well-planned and executed attack, the Russian Black Sea Fleet lost 70 percent of its combat capability. To a large extent, it was his ships that fired their missiles at the peaceful cities of Ukraine and blocked merchant shipping in the Black Sea.

Given this, Turkey, Ukraine and the UN still agreed on the departure of 14 ships with grain from Ukrainian ports on October 31. Another four ships entered the ports of Ukraine. At present, all declared ships with 354.5 thousand tons of agricultural products have already left the ports of Odessa, Chernomorsk and Pivdenny for the countries of Africa, Asia and Europe.
Russia was simply informed about it. No one will ask Russia any more and pay attention to its threats, and any provocation will end for her in the worst scenario.

I don't know if WWIII will happen because of that, but this issue really highlights the pitfalls of globalization. Countries should strive to be independent in sectors such as energy or food production!

 

Can I have some arguments, well, so that it simply would not be a "performance of a lone clown"? Oh propagandist! It's the same though

The world terrorist country has already broken not only almost all its teeth about Ukraine, but now shamefully fled from the Kharkov region, with huge losses, cowardly fleeing from the south of Ukraine and other territories. At the same time, they have already stooped to the point that they are begging for weapons from Iran and North Korea! "Great Russia", "the second army of the world", "the world will not live without gas and oil from Russia" - these are all very funny jokes
PS. The only nuance, unfortunately, I will assume that the cowardly escape from the south of Ukraine will become part of the "show" for the rashist society. Most likely, people who are almost forcibly prepared for evacuation to the left bank of the Dnieper will be shot there. This is a classic move by a terrorist country (remember how they blew up residential buildings with sleeping civilians in Russia to justify the attack on independent Ichkeria). Then, with a high probability, there will be an attempt to destroy the hydroelectric power station in order to pass it all off as "crimes of Ukraine" ...

If that's considered a problem, then I think there are a few things that everyone can do and one of them is to find a substitute when the wheat that is usually consumed is getting scarce and also when an item like wheat becomes scarce, then the price will also become very expensive. because it is a food ingredient that is needed every day by people who consume it.

Because perhaps, wheat is a staple food that must be consumed. Food is the most important thing for humans. If there is no food, humans will die of starvation. Therefore, if wheat starts to become scarce, surely some people will start fighting over the wheat, and chaos begins.

To some extent, your point can be considered correct; hunger is a significant problem worldwide in all ERA. Also, your point on Ukraine and Russia can be actual, but my point here is that food prices have increased worldwide.
You can not blame the Russian invasion of Ukraine as the only factor for the price hike.
Yes, it can be one of the factors but not a sole responsible factor.

between this crossfire is EU who suffer the most because beside the cold winter is hunger as well. most of the grains are already hoarded by China who has more than 50% of the supply. they are aware of what is going to happen, they have famine in the past.

Ukraine will be destroyed. they still could avoid this if they just want the peace and go on. fight again when they are capable.

I know this story
Only you didn't tell it all and not completely. Again, for some reason, without saying some nuances ... I do not exclude that out of habit

If you read purely Russian news (read - state propaganda, mostly false, as everyone has already seen), then the situation is as follows: Turkey announced that it had acquired S-400s from Russia. was forced, because Allegedly, this is all a consequence of the US refusal to supply it with Patriot anti-aircraft missile systems (SAM). Sounds nice right? Too bad it's not true
Officially, and it's easy enough to check the reasons were different, and some of them are probably intentional.
I'll start a little further. Russia has positioned since the 80s that it is the "best manufacturer" of many military systems. Tanks, air defense, and much more were exclusively "unparalleled" and "the closest competitors still have to catch up with Russia in 20-30-40 years." But we already know that this is a fake

But back to Turkey. What do they have in service, in air defense?
- M41A1 Duster, yes yes, these old men, coaxial 40 mm machine guns
- ZSU Korkut from the Turkish company ASELSAN
- ZSU SSA, with two automatic guns Oerlikon KDC-02 caliber 35 mm, which are produced in Turkey (under a Swiss license). I will not list other systems, it is not interesting. Stepping up a step:
- mobile command posts on the M113 armored personnel carrier chassis (US license), with AN / MPQ-64 Sentinel radar (Hughes Aircraft Co. USA)
- "Light" MANPADS - Stingers and a large number of missiles for them, including licensed ones produced in Turkey (under US license). And let's move on to global, medium-long-range combat air defense.

The basis of Turkish air defense is long-range anti-aircraft missile systems that provide cover for strategically important objects of the armed forces, government and industry. And let's guess what these systems are?? Exactly! The Turkish army is armed with 3PK MIM-14 Nike-Hercules, Hok air defense systems. From the 80s to today, the global air defense system continues to be built on these systems!
Yes, and of course we will remember the S-400! I'm not the Russian media to lie and hide the truth ...and in 2017-2019 Turkey bought 4 S-400 divisions The Kremlin's screeching about the "big contract" turned out to be the expected fake.
BUT ! at least 1 division, in a FULL set (and there is an assumption that 2) left ... to the "fierce enemy of Turkey" - to .. USA! In order to calmly disassemble, try to find something "unparalleled" and adapt your systems to deal with the C400. And as you know, but you will probably say “no no no, it didn’t happen”, these “unparalleled” complexes “protected” the temporarily occupied Ukrainian Crimea, and shamefully missed Turkish Bayraktars, Ukrainian missiles, and American ones The world saw that the Russian army and the defense industry are fake, useless backward technology and stupid advertising, behind which there is nothing!

And today, for very understandable reasons, Turkey no longer purchases the Russian "iron misunderstanding", not only uses advanced Western systems, but also developed its own systems, for example, HISAR-U Siper

Wheat war has thrown society back to times when two tribes can not decide who will have the largest share of killed mammoth, and the control belongs to those who has more food.

I just hope that the world has made conclusions of wheat shortage and in future there wont be situations like "worlds salt supplies are soon to end humanity is again in danger".

I havent been following "wheat war" news for a while. It seems that situation is still not under control and scientists still hasnt figured out how to substitute it.

Food war is way bigger than Russia-Ukraine conflict and that conflict is only a small part of it.
For example China has been buying and storing all the grains they can. Last I checked they had stored more than 60% of all the grains in the world and were still mass purchasing.
Most countries halted their food related exports or halted then resumed at a decreased capacity.
Europe is desperate for food that the small shipments Russia released from Ukraine ports was swallowed whole by Europeans.
US has been stealing the Ukrainian grains from their ports as much as they can despite them being a big producer themselves.
There is a serious shortage of fertilizers going on in the world because of this war that is going to lead to a big decrease in farmers' yield next year.

There was a lot of controversy when Turkey decided to purchase the S-400 air-defense system from Russia. The Americans actually threatened to push Turkey out of the F-35 program in retaliation. If you believe that all this is propaganda, then you can go through the information that is available in the public domain. Even Saudi Arabia was initially interested in the S-400 systems, but then the Syria war started and the deal failed as Russia and Saudi Arabia were on the opposing sides in the conflict.

And besides exclusively your fantasies, do you have any arguments in favor of yours, well, let it be "theories"? Well, for example - the United States forces you to buy only their weapons and prohibits the production of your own. Or does it not help other NATO members? Or does it not provide technological, financial, consulting support? Or takes away from NATO members their money, factories, land?
Or something else that can be equated with the relationship between "master and slave"?

Why I ask a question - I often hear the sound of words from you, but they are almost never followed by any real arguments, facts. Those. it's just a sound, because you want to count so much