Topic: Wheat War I is going to be World War III - page 4. (Read 6224 times)

The so called energy crisis is a result of decades of mismanagement. Governments around the world were too early and enthusiastic to close down coal and nuclear power plants and jump on to the green bandwagon. Those who made the gradual progression (such as France) are still managing the crisis in a better way. It is countries such as Germany, who made the abrupt jump, are paying for their mistakes. On top of that, oil and gas companies are facing increasing hostility from the governments and they reduced the amount allocated for exploration and development of new fields. This has also contributed to the current shortage in a significant way.

I think energy, rather than wheat, will cause a third world war. Oil is slowly dying out. The importance of natural gas is starting to increase. And there is a very serious energy shortage in the world. We still cannot use the sun and we are turning to fossil fuels. Yes, we are very close to the third world war.

My opinion on this is that wheat is not the dominant staple food for humans. each country is different with different starch. All may know Wheat is a very important commodity because it belongs to the bread group and Wheat is a staple food in most of the world. I think we all know what will happen. So, it can be assumed that the wheat war will become the third world war if it continues like this.

correctly. When we do agriculture, the land is not too large. then it is still possible to use organic fertilizers produced by themselves, such as fermented animal urine for spray fertilizer and fermented manure for sow fertilizer. But organic fertilizers have limitations. because we cannot possibly mass produce processed organic fertilizers ourselves. so when we farm in a large area. then the need for fertilizer must be very much. while organic fertilizers are difficult to make in a short time and difficult to make in large quantities. unless there is a special industry that makes it. as in Indonesia, there are now many companies producing liquid fertilizers. with low prices but the quality is not less competitive with chemical fertilizers.
but if you have to keep buying fertilizer. then the profit will still be small. especially coupled with the price of crops that decline during inflation. fertilizer increased but agricultural yields fell. This is what is happening in some developing countries. this can trigger farmers' protests against government policies. whereas the agricultural sector is the sector that the government should pay the most attention to. because the lungs of a country are in the agricultural and livestock sectors. related to food. but I see in developing countries the government does not pay attention to the farmers. they pay more attention to the construction of high-rise buildings. construction of the office sector and toll roads. while the agricultural sector is always marginalized. even though the food crisis can bring down a country.

Storing wheat can be expensive. A better alternative would be to convert it to ethanol and use for transportation. Countries such as Brazil have already implemented ethanol blending with gasoline. And I am sure that it will make economic sense, given the recent spike in crude oil prices. I am not sure about the modifications that need to be made to the motor engines. 5% or 10% blend may not require additional modifications, but anything more than that may require expensive changes to cylinder walls and valves. Still, in the long term it should be beneficial.

Slowly there is increasing productivity of wheat, but with the floods the same have once again been affected. Another thing it is important to take care of the produced wheat. In my country there is no proper storage system and this lets the production go wasted when there is unexpected rainfall or something like that. According to me, if the storage and buying wheat from the farmers were done giving them the right price wheat requirement all around the world can be fulfilled.

I was watching a food documentary last week, and at some
point within the segment it caught me on how wheat and
grains had significant effects on economies and politics
on the past. Wheat is undeniably in demand at all times.
With the ongoing effects of war and climate change, it’s no
wonder the global supply of grains and other agricultural
products are in peril. I live in an agricultural country, and
even local grains here are having difficulties since farmers,
yields and agricultural methods have been low throughout
the developing years. We used to export to neighboring
countries that was decades ago, sadly now we import
from those nations. Truly wheat is an asset, I wonder
if the other grains out there have the same potential
as well.

 
Now the question is - will Russia remain on the globe of the earth at all, and you give out such humoresques here!

Meanwhile, in Russia there is simply nowhere to store grain, fertilizers and ammonia (judging by Putin's statements yesterday on the food problem).
1. Russia will supply 30 million tons of grain to needy countries by the end of the year.
2. Russia is ready to donate potash fertilizers to developing countries.
3. Russia is ready to supply ammonia in the amount of two million tons to countries in need.

Not sure about the figure of 20%-30%, but I agree that the yields will be down by a lot without chemical fertilizers. In Sri Lanka they banned chemical fertilizer and the agricultural sector got completely destroyed as a result. Here in India, there is a shortage of fertilizer (both Ammonia based and Potash based), because of the war in Ukraine. Here the government procures the supply and then gives them to farmers free of charge. But they are unable to secure enough supplies at reasonable rates and as a result we are having an acute shortage.

If there is one development in the world that could revolutionize global politics, it is the rise of wheat as a global strategic asset. Yes, The world is headed for a food crisis, and it will continue for a long time.

In my opinion, Government and society together find a way to use less wheat and be able to grow it without invasive chemicals so that we will be able to build harmony in this world. Because wheat is the basis of many products around the world,

Let's hope we can all put our differences aside and get along soon.

What I've found with my little research is that the problem is about yield.

With these fertilizers (rich with nitrogen, phosphorus, and potassium) they can keep reusing the same soil and harvest a lot and multiple times a year. With no fertilizer or with traditional ones the yield significantly decreases and you can't harvest as many times. The soil simply doesn't have what the crop needs to grow.
Not to mention that you can't produce nearly as much traditional fertilizers like guano!

So for example if a wheat farmer was producing 1 ton of wheat before, without these fertilizers they can produce only 20-30% of that.

In the chemical fertilizer industry, natural gas is both a source of energy and a raw material. Fertilizers are made from gas using gas. Therefore, next year, European farmers will be forced to switch to organic farming.

The Lithuanian fertilizer plant that you are talking about consumed 50% of the gas in Lithuania before its shutdown.

i also dont understand why purposely ban fertilizers from the beginning, it started a chain reaction up to starve countless countries. Sri lanka as i have watched a documentary about it, their president ban fertilizers because they alooking forward to organic planting. the result was that farmers not planting crops instead.

old fertilizers still works like the guano but farmers today are not very familair with it.
hunger clouds judgement of people, which they do bad stuff like robbing qnd looting.

So what do you want if you decide to "quietly sit in the corner" when a crime occurs, instead of reining in the country of a terrorist? You are reaping the fruits of your own "passivity", as it should be! But that's not even the problem! Remember - when you have global problems, many will also, in relation to you, choose a "neutral position" ... Fate.. Karma ... cool things, believe me

I started this topic 4 months ago and warned about the food crisis that is going to be caused by fertilizer crisis. The "European Fertilizer Producers" just figure it out recently! Their representative announced that the fertilizer industry is already in a full-fledged crisis!
"As a result, over 70% of European production capacity has been curtailed. If the situation prevails, we fear that remaining producers could also be affected."

Interestingly enough they blame the over 1000% increase in gas price, but that is only part of the reason. The major imports of components they used to produce the fertilizers are no longer being sold to them as I said earlier which is why they can not produce enough fertilizers anymore.
Lithuanian fertilizer company, Achema AB has already said as much when they announced they will shut down soon.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-08-26/europe-s-fertilizer-crisis-deepens-with-70-of-capacity-hit
https://www.newsweek.com/europes-energy-crisis-turning-food-crisis-opinion-1740228

I am residing in a country that has taken a neutral stance in the conflict and I can say that we are getting screwed royally. Wheat and sunflower oil prices have gone through the roof. Gasoline and CNG has become extremely expensive. In general, the inflation now stands at 7-8% per year, compared to 4% per year which we had until 2020. So it is not like countries that have taken a neutral stance on Russia are benefitting in any way. Some of the private companies (such as Reliance) are making a limited amount of profit by importing Russian crude. But compared to the overall scenario, this is insignificant.

According to meteorological centers, the flood wave could continue in other regions of the world during the winter. If the world is able to cope with the economic changes caused by the Ukrainian crisis, it cannot even predict the extent of the devastation that we will face due to urgent climate changes.
The Ukrainian crisis will deepen the crisis for countries hostile to Russia. The rest of the world's countries that are neutral (relatively, of course) may have better chances of overcoming part of the crisis, but in any case they cannot overcome the inflation crisis, which has become a global pandemic.

I think the food crisis is on the rise and this is becoming a serious global problem,
commodity and food prices also increased due to inflation,
If conditions are still like this, it is not impossible that more people will experience a food crisis

Both the scenarios can't be compared. Flooding will be over in a week or two, and for most part Pakistan is a very arid country. What happened there is due to their own mismanagement. Now all the precious runoff will just end up in the sea, rather than being used to irrigate the fields. And in a few months everyone will be complaining about drought. On the other hand, the situation in Ukraine is going on for more than 6 months now. And it is unlikely to end anytime soon. And Ukraine is an European country, which will obviously bring more attention from the Western world.