Topic: Wheat War I is going to be World War III - page 2. (Read 6279 times)

If the people want to stop the war between the Russia and Ukraine.They need to support the Ukraine for sure.Ukraine is not a first involved country in the war.Secondly the second nation Ukraine is weaker country.To immediate stop of the war is supporting the weak nation.But the support should not made with the future benefits then the peace talk at the end.United Nation Security Council can make a speak talk between the nation and make this to the smooth peace talk.

NATO's purpose was never the ones that they proclaim openly. NATO is an American pet project, where the US treat their allies just a bit better than slaves. And this is why powerful countries such as Turkey are increasingly turning rebellious (by ordering Russian air defense systems). Ever since the collapse and disintegration of the USSR in 1992, I don't think that there have been a single positive contribution from the NATO. All they have done is to bomb third world nations such Serbia, Libya and Iraq to rubble.

The answer is extremely simple - in the world, in addition to the collapsed rotten Soviet Union, there are still many idiots who dream of world domination, "everyone into nuclear ashes" and periodically rattling their aggressive "bells".
The only thing I will note is that a series of changes in the structures of world interaction awaits us. NATO will also be changed, which for a very long time emphasized its essence as almost only a fight against the Kremlin, and will become an alliance that ensures stability in all regions.
So are other international organizations that today have shown themselves to be impotent, absolutely useless, creating only the appearance of work, or not fulfilling their duties at all - the UN, the Red Cross and many others.

LOL it's like saying "Russian invasion of Ukraine is sheer propaganda"!!!
Things that are already happening are not propaganda. The food war is already happening just like the invasion of Ukraine. The only thing left open for discussion is whether this food war is going to lead to more armed conflict to which I say there is a pretty good chance it does.

"NATO was constructed on the - with the reason, whether one believes it or not, that it was going to defend Western Europe from Russian assault. Once the Berlin Wall fell and the Soviet Union was beginning to collapse, that reason was gone. So, first question: why does NATO exist?" - Noam Chomsky

Big organization like NATO has to provide solution to the conflicts since they claimed to be a peaceful bloc. But from what we could see is that they offer non, for them its all about control which we can see thru the sanctions and regime change.

In this conflict, only Russia seem to be open to negotiation. They even warn that Ukraine's NATO entry will result to war but they still pushes it.
Now that each party have been gathering allies already, its becoming harder to prevent.

Not just Ukraine but in a lot of other places the colonizers have occupied. I've already said it before and something that the US State Department has already admitted to doesn't leave any room for discussion!

Iraq not Iran.

There is nothing to refute when you said what I've been saying all this time. All these fake superpowers like US and Russia invade any country they can or want to. During their invasion, the more battles they lose the more aggressive they get.

It was 2 or 3 months ago that I said here that Russians are going to do the same thing in Ukraine that Americans did in Afghanistan. I even mentioned the MOAB they dropped on Afghanistan and said Russia is going to do something similar...

I respect any reasoned and logical opinion, even if it contradicts my views. And despite our differences of opinion, I respect you as an apponenit. But ! When you start telling frank nonsense - it's not a dialogue anymore
Let's make it simpler: bring here, to me and others, the FACTS about the US SECRET LABORATORIES on the territory of UKRAINE, where, in your words, "biological weapons of mass destruction that the United States produces in Ukraine"?




I have no problem, I appreciate the actions of both sides. And for example, I agree that the reason for the start of the military operation in Iran was very dubious "facts", which in the end turned out to be fake. And in the same way, I evaluate the "fake", and constantly changing "reasons" for Russia's terrorist war against Ukraine. It was in different periods of time - language, then denazification, then liberation, then coercion, now openly - the seizure of new territories. At the same time, this fact remains a fact - this war was unleashed by Russia, and Russia is an aggressor, moreover, using the most vile methods of waging a terrorist war - the bombing of peaceful cities, residential buildings, the destruction of people on a national basis, sadism, violence, the massacre of civilians, attempts concealment of crimes, torture and looting. These are all FACTS.
Yesterday, in Kyiv, 3 kilometers from my house, I personally watched through the windows how a Russian missile hit an infrastructural CIVIL object! And also the center of Kyiv was subjected to a missile attack, where ordinary civilians were killed. Maybe something from what I said you can refute, argue and prove that I'm lying?

Although as I've told him before, using the term "terrorist" makes no sense about Russia but in a way his comments here make some sense considering that he claims to be from Ukraine. It's tough when another country is bombing your cities.

It is marked because the "food war" is already happening.

The more messed up thing is that sometimes they aren't terrorists until they start losing. Like ISIS or Da'esh! Initially while they were cutting heads off, US was calling them "freedom fighters" fighting Asad regime as opposition!!!
But then Iran started the war against these terrorists with the help of the Resistance and as their defeat became apparent, US started changing its position...

Who do you think is the freedom fighter between Russia and Ukraine?

In Afghanistan, the Talibans were also called terrorist until they won which they are now in control and now they are the government. So its just it, they are called terrorist until they win. If you consider the freedom of Ukraine then what about the freedom of Russia?

Its what people heard from the media though. Once they heard it, its stick to their mind that Russia is a terrorist.  Same as generally the people think of Muslims because its been said over and over on the media. And mostly the tv viewers look at one side of the story not looking at history and who fueled the fight.

If the war between China and Taiwan also erupts, they'd also call China as terrorist.

Usage of any type of weapons of mass destruction against any country under any circumstances is wrong.
Whether it is Nukes that Russia is threatening others with or the biological WMDs that US has been manufacturing inside Ukraine (and elsewhere) and have been threatening the whole world with.

Your problem is that you don't want to believe that there is no difference between Russia and United States.
The "special operation" inside Afghanistan was also supposed to be very short and yet those "terrorists" got stuck in Afghanistan for 20 years while murdering civilians. The more they lost the more violent they got and destroyed more of that beautiful country. They even used the biggest non-nuclear bomb (eq. 11 tons TNT) there to cover up their weakness.

1. The stupid things you said about - one crazy grandfather constantly talks, who constantly rubs his nuclear testicles ... grandmother's testicles in front of the whole world
2. Concerning the fact resulted by you - NO remarks! That's exactly what it was! And let's not care about the worthless fact that Japan attacked China, the USA, the USSR, British Hong Kong, Thailand, British Malaya, the Dutch East Indies, Guam, Wake Island, the Gilbert Islands, Borneo and the Philippines ....
At the same time, they behaved ... how to more accurately convey their bastardity ... And, like today's rashists - violence, the killing of civilians, torture, rape ... True, the toilets did not steal ... Well, the Japanese knew in the 40s of the last century What is a toilet
And of course I agree that even against such a bastard regime, the use of nuclear weapons is not the right move.
But, again, you misrepresented something, somehow pretended that you don’t know reality Now the situation is different - the country is a global terrorist attacking a neighboring country that they themselves signed up to protect and respect its borders and ensure its inviolability. The terrorist country heroically declares a "2-3 week short operation to denify ()", which has been going on for 9 .. but months ... And the great army of the terrorist country, losing day by day, cowardly begins to threaten a NUCLEAR-FREE country, nuclear weapons. Be a man, don't be a liar, it's not always convenient, of course, but it's HONEST!

... and this is the second example of the threat of the use of nuclear weapons, only extremely vile, vile and cowardly

@DrBeer did you even read my comment?! I'm pointing out the only case in history where a nuclear armed nation nukes another unarmed nation and the effects or rather lack of it elsewhere. Where did it even talk about "Russian greatness" and all that other nonsense that you keep repeating in all your posts?!!!

Dear pooya87
Try not to idealize, but simply realistically assess the situation?
1. "Great Russia", which has "the second most powerful army in the world", attacked Ukraine, where, according to the miserable breed of the Fuhrer, there were "small groups of Nazis ( what's with the grandfather's head)", which are the same " Great Russia" was supposed to be destroyed in "a couple of weeks".
2. now "Great Russia" (+ list of fake statuses - see item 1) is begging for negotiations from Ukraine. At the same time, she already definitely lost the war (and not the "special operation for 3 weeks"), by conventional means, to Ukraine
3. And realizing that Ukraine "had in mind" Russia, she took the last measure - to threaten a NUCLEAR-FREE country with NUCLEAR WEAPONS!

Nothing bothers you?

But this is the first part, just the facts. The second part is even more difficult for Russia.
Your "wet rashist fantasies" that nuclear terror, even when using tactical nuclear weapons, will give you victory is a fake. Moreover, this is the path to the total destruction of Russia itself, because. the answer will follow immediately. And the use of STRATEGIC nuclear weapons will mean the guaranteed destruction of Russia not only as a state, but as a TERRITORY!

No, of course self-hypnosis about "greatness" and "analogue-shit" weapons is strong ... But in reality it doesn’t work There was such an expression "Pyrrhic victory", now there will be "Russian victory", which will mean a total loss, with official version of "victory"

Uranium is used in nuclear weapons and the radiation dies out very quickly AFAIK. On the other hand, radiation from nuclear reactors last for more time, because most of it comes from Cesium and Iodine. Both Hiroshima and Nagasaki were rebuilt in very quick time, and both these cities have huge populations now (in case of Hiroshima, greater than 1 million). On the other hand, large parts of irradiated area within Chernobyl exclusion zone is still unfit for human inhabitation (in total measures thousands of square kilometers in Ukraine and Belarus).

A nuclear war where 2 nuclear powers hit each other to mutual destruction is different from one nuclear power nuking another unarmed nation. In other words history suggests this part of your comment not correct. United States dropped 2 atomic bombs on 2 Japanese cities of Hiroshima and Nagasaki wiping out their entire population. There was no negative impact elsewhere on the planet and only Japanese people suffered from this atrocity.

Shaking the "gray-haired flabby nuclear scrotum" is all that is left for "great Russia". Russia has essentially lost the conventional war. And they understand that the hour is not far off when the bald miserable Fuhrer on Red Square will be torn apart by his own subjects, and Russia will become a pariah country, and will soon cease to exist, torn from the inside. Therefore, the Kremlin has no choice but to "drive the show-off" and try to "take on the show-off" - which, in general, is in good agreement with the behavior of the "St. Petersburg gopnik." But both the bald man and his entourage are well aware that the myth of Russia's military power has been dispelled, of course there are nuclear weapons, but with a high probability most of the missiles will not fly far from the launch sites, while Putin and his entourage will be physically destroyed. I do not exclude, of course, that there will be an attempt, as if "accidentally" to make at least one strike with tactical nuclear warheads, but ... then the road to hell for all of Russia will be guaranteed and implemented as soon as possible. Whether the accomplices of the Kremlin distant dwarf will want to go to the next world with fortunes and a desire to live - that is the question. It is possible that we will see Putin in a cage, who will be transported through all of Ukraine to The Hague

In our world, it is very dangerous to simply threaten someone with a nuclear weapon. The world has long come to the conclusion that it has accumulated so many nuclear weapons that they can destroy the entire planet several times. Therefore, the correct conclusion was drawn that there would be no winners in a nuclear war. If a powerful nuclear bomb explodes at one end of the globe, its negative impact will manifest itself in all corners of our planet. It is also true that no one will sit idly by if anyone dares to threaten the use of nuclear weapons against any small or large neighboring or distant state. Because everyone will suffer from the consequences of nuclear explosions to varying degrees.

Putin attacked Ukraine and is trying to conquer its territory. Ukraine has the right to defend its sovereignty and is successfully defending itself. Already at this stage, the international community must take all measures to pacify the aggressor. If the aggressor also tries to threaten with nuclear weapons, and the threat of their use is real, a preventive strike by the international community must be delivered to eliminate such a threat. Otherwise, our civilization may perish. There is simply no other way. If in this case you give in to the aggressor, then he will go further and spread his criminal influence over the whole world, which is also unacceptable.

So the Americans will destroy the Russian navy, and in return the Russians will sit back and watch? By the time Americans rain their nukes on the Baltic and Black Sea fleets, the Russian Pacific Fleet will nuke the cities on West Coast of the United States. Russia has thousands of nuclear weapons. Even if they can achieve a success rate of 1%, entire population of the United States will be wiped out from the surface of the earth. Anyway, I am not expecting anything big in the next couple of months. Russia is yet to exhaust all of its non-nuclear options.