Topic: Wheat War I is going to be World War III - page 11. (Read 6278 times)

Does President Zelensky listen to NATO little? That's funny! Yes, he did not offer a single solution on his own! I think he humiliates all the people of Ukraine when he walks and asks for everything! How can Ukraine be called an independent country if it has nothing! What kind of victory can we talk about if the army surrenders entire cities! How can it be?

The real issue is where are usa and Europe on whose backing Zelensky fingured Russia. Since its Ukarine, media is saying that Russia is killing innocent people and bla bla but same media and white people were silent when usa and Europe were busy doing human rights violation in Afghanistan, Iraq and rest of the countries. Dual standards

If Putin would be reasonable, he would not attack Ukraine. This war will kill him and Russia as a whole. In any case, it will no longer be a superstate, as previously thought. Putin leads Russia to isolation from the outside world, the fall of the economy, poverty, crime and unemployment.
The President of Ukraine Zelensky just listens very little to Europe and the United States and often criticizes their actions if they take wrong steps from his point of view or show indecision and inaction.

What "alternative route" do you propose to take for Zelensky? Surrender and capitulate? Have you seen how Russian soldiers behave in the occupied territory in Ukraine? They rob, kill and rape civilians, destroy houses and any civilian infrastructure. And then surrender to the mercy of these bastards? Now the population of Ukraine is categorically against any peace agreements with the Putin regime. Ukrainians win even where the enemy's superiority is fivefold in manpower and equipment. Therefore, Russia will suffer a military defeat in Ukraine. Therefore, the world is now on the verge of very big changes.

Iran has take full advantage of there rich reserves of oil and gas in maintaining national integrity. Those countries that are run on western model of economy or IMF program faced problem in such situations. Iran is isolated by USA and west but still its surprising to see how this country is prospering and standing on its feet.

I wish you also included where you live so that we could have a better understanding of how things are going in different countries.

In any case I've seen this issue mainly in countries that are plagued with a disease called capitalism. The "capitalist" would for example buy the farm and farmer and their products in long term contracts. There are cases where the farmers have to work their assess off for 10 years and hand over their products to the "salve master" at the same fixed price for 10 years regardless of inflation. That crushes the farmer.
The government can not get involved in it either because if they did the whole system falls apart. But this threatens food security.

In other places without capitalism (or little of it) things are different. The government can get involved and help guarantee food security, not to mention that farmers are mostly also owners of their own land and products.
For example in Iran farmers receive a lot of help at times like this, for example they could receive fertilizers at very cheap prices so that their final product doesn't need to go up in price. Sometimes they have a guarantee of purchase at a high price (even higher than market price). This is why food prices (like bread) haven't technically gone up except in some cases (like rice) they only had a small rise.

I live in a place which is an agricultural land. But due to inflation the farmers are very very upset on what is going on. The prices of fertilizers and urea are at the fire.
My brother who is farmer too was crying the other - how is he going to take care of the next crops. I don't know where is the world heading too.

Russia can be stopped. Its not like its just the people in EU and US can think better. China doesn't create war but where are they now, they are the ones where bank go for bailout and US takes loan from them to give to Ukraine.

Putin is also a reasonable man, things just just need a mutual relationship.
As long as Zelensky is open to negotiate. He only have to listen to himself and not to EU and the West that pushes them get into this war. They don't even profit from this. Zelensky just have to use the alternative route before its too late. He doesn't have to wait when all are hungry and cold that his private soldiers will decide to shoot him to end this war.

I don't believe this will happen anytime sooner. Most countries have enough wheat supplies. Also I have seen in news - Putin announced he has enough wheat to supply to the countries who would be needing it.
Russia is unstoppable.

Agriculture fertilizer in general is undervalued because of disruption from many factors not just this war.  There is greater world GDP growth, growing populations and development of economies away from an agrarian self sufficiency economicy in terms of food more supply will be needed from those with land capable of mass production.   Russia trying to bully a nearby country into its cartel influence for money making and power advantage is not out of character.    The bigger problem might be global warming or altering weather patterns, this will alter current food production and require new land to be found and enriched.

At the moment, only Russia, as an aggressor country and a terrorist country, makes such steps and statements. Do not confuse the righteous with the sinful!
Russia has already blocked gas supplies to the EU, Russia has already unilaterally changed the terms of gas supplies, Russia has already captured part of a foreign state, and in addition to looting by its soldiers, it is engaged in state-level looting. From the temporarily occupied territories of Ukraine, Russia has already stolen and taken out - grain, metal, agricultural equipment ... And its soldiers also steal toilet bowls - this is a wonder for the inhabitants of Russia About the theft of used underwear - I am silent, this is the norm for Russians - they even our cast-offs are given to their wives

We now live in the time where the food crisis is not possible. And my country is famous in the world for the charity and reaching to the people incase there is any support needed. I belong to the same community. I hope and pray this never happens. Amee.

Wheat War is the worse case scenario that we are still heading towards. Right now the food prices are constantly increasing in Europe and different members of EU are reporting inflation rates that are highest in the past 4 decades!
Poverty is increasing too, for example 1.5 million families reached absolute poverty and became homeless in UK alone over the past months. This also increases social unrest which can be seen in the increased number of protests around EU.

If another economic shock is given to EU, like if China decided to arbitrarily shut down their ports again or oil prices soared again due to another conflict elsewhere in an oil rich region, things could escalate a lot faster and we see a big crisis in EU.

Where did you hear that load of bullcrap? That is not even close to remotely true. Why would the weapons that were sent to Ukraine become unusable? You would think that if the Russians had the weapons then all the fighting would stop with Ukraine's surrender due to not being able to fight back?

Ukraine might not have a chance of winning the war without huge losses but the maps don't lie. Ukraine has become even more tough with all the weapon deliveries. So obviously the weapons are being used by Ukraine, quite successfully.

You should not spread half-baked rumors. They can do great harm.

On the other hand I believe the Russia Ukraine war has almost drag everyone in it. While the things would have possible solution through dialogues. They took the other channel and destroyed the world. The after affect of COVID are still there and now this war and this prediction of wheat war. God knows how the things will be resolved.

Yes, basically it has become an open secret because when war will always have something to do with politics,
each country involved certainly has a goal and seeks to benefit from it as well.
so no need to be surprised because that's the truth

I don't think there is a possible war between Russia and NATO in the near future. Most of the weapons were sent to Ukraine and became unusable or passed into the hands of the Russian army. Every day soldiers of the Ukrainian army throwing away  weapon and leave the battlefield. Army remained only in France, who will wage war from NATO?

In our culture there is a famous saying - if you do good to someone - save yourself from the person too. He might be dangerous too.
Every country is looking for their benefits from the war. It would be no surprise if they blackmail EU for the gas pipeline. I am sure this is going to happen.

I think Europe wont be happy if Ukraine closes gas pipelines or will try to blackmail Europe with that. Imagine you are helping someone and he say "do more help or you will regret not doing it".

If we roll back to WWII, the territory of Ukraine was also occupied. Were there wheat war during that time, or Ukraine has become one of major wheat exporters only in recent decades? This is topic is already month old and I wonder of analytics has already confirmed or denied the theory of wheat war?

Everything will be fine. There will be no crisis. Hardly it happens that food crisis happen. Even of does. There are always help available and also there are already so much alternative available that people would make sure things won't get out of control.

I would not hope for these crops. Perhaps by the end of the summer only ashes will remain of them. There is a war on the territory of this country and there is no guarantee that the crop will be able to save. It is surprising that Ukraine sends its grain to other countries. It's too complicated for me to understand