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Topic: Wheat War I is going to be World War III - page 18. (Read 6279 times)

legendary
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In a month's time the stand of India on wheat export have changed completely upside down. India made the first statement louder and the second one in a much quite way. Publicity without proper understanding is the reason for such moves. The entire world is in short, and India being the second largest producer of wheat could've handled the situation better. Because, there is more and more flaws in buying from the farmers and proper way of warehousing.
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Alongside China and India, US is also a mass producer of wheat and many other food grains. Whatever is happening in Europe, is a pre-planned series of events formulated by White house and Pentagon. I wouldn't be surprised, if UK is also a part of this conspiracy or not but they are also very likely to be a part of it.

Otherwise, there's no reason why US will force countries like Ukraine and Finland to join NATO. It would give them uninterrupted access to Russian border. That's what Russia is protesting and trying to protect their border from US invasion.  The UK and US imposed sanctions on them and look who are the most affected countries - european countries. US is all fine here!

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I did saw the news about India stating they'd stop exporting their wheat. It's not really just Europe that is going to be affected by this. A large portion of North Africa and Middle East import their wheat. One of the reasons Egypt is angry about the Renaissance Dam is the reduced flow while it fill up is going to affect whatever wheat yield they are currently producing, and they are already importing a large portion of what they consume.

I was about to say I'm not as worried being a rice eater then I remembered China is basically strangling continental Southeast Asia's water supply and that would affect their rice production. Water war.

So we have a combination of decreased imports, decreased domestic production and at the same time we have an increased consumption. This sounds a lot like a recipe for disaster.

Due to intermittent fasting, I've somehow reduced my meals to x2 a day and I believe I can bring it down to x1 if need be. The problem is not everyone is just going to consciously reduce consumption and by the time they do, it's likely coz there's already a shortage and they were forced into it.
that is why I have mentioned earlier that world can not shut its door to the Russia - Mainly due to oil and 2ndly due to wheat.
This war is going to have lasting affact on the economy. And Russia will rise again no matter what!
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It's amazing, Russia accounts for only 2% of world GDP, but it seems that this is the very necessary two percent that you can eat, pour into the gas tank of a car or heat a house with them in winter. And everything else is just numbers on the stock exchange.
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I did saw the news about India stating they'd stop exporting their wheat. It's not really just Europe that is going to be affected by this. A large portion of North Africa and Middle East import their wheat. One of the reasons Egypt is angry about the Renaissance Dam is the reduced flow while it fill up is going to affect whatever wheat yield they are currently producing, and they are already importing a large portion of what they consume.

I was about to say I'm not as worried being a rice eater then I remembered China is basically strangling continental Southeast Asia's water supply and that would affect their rice production. Water war.

So we have a combination of decreased imports, decreased domestic production and at the same time we have an increased consumption. This sounds a lot like a recipe for disaster.

Due to intermittent fasting, I've somehow reduced my meals to x2 a day and I believe I can bring it down to x1 if need be. The problem is not everyone is just going to consciously reduce consumption and by the time they do, it's likely coz there's already a shortage and they were forced into it.
legendary
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What?I don't know about France telling Ukraine to give up defending.This is probably fake news.
You can argue about the reasons behind the suggestion but not the news itself since it is direct quotes from Ukraine's president Zelensky, unless you think the comedian is lying.
He claims that French President Emmanuel Macron has been pressuring him to yield a lot of territories to Russia.
I believe this is the origin of the news:
https://www.uawire.org/zelensky-macron-suggested-to-make-concessions-on-ukraine-s-sovereignty-to-help-putin-save-face#

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I think that you are exaggerating a little bit.
Not a little bit, I'm theorizing the worse case scenario while wishing something a lot less happens to our world.

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I don't expect global starvation, but food will become more and more expensive for sure.
One reason why I mentioned the worse case scenario and global starvation is that production everywhere is decreased due to a much lower supply of fertilizers which is something I haven't seen any analysts out there even consider! You see farmers need fertilizers so that the soil can handle more production and more frequent production. Otherwise the soil won't have enough nutrition in it to help the crops grow.
So we have a combination of decreased imports, decreased domestic production and at the same time we have an increased consumption. This sounds a lot like a recipe for disaster.
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7. France is already telling Ukraine to give up defending so that maybe they can avert food crisis themselves!

What?I don't know about France telling Ukraine to give up defending.This is probably fake news.
The food prices around the globe will definitely increase a lot,but I think that you are exaggerating a little bit.
Ukraine actually exports a part of it's own wheat production.The wheat is being transported to the Romanian port of Konstanza,where it will be transported by sea to the west.Perhaps a part of the Ukrainian wheat has been stolen by the Russians,but they have to sell it to countries in the Middle East(or China and India).Russia also needs more income from exporting goods,so the Russians have to sell their own wheat production.
I don't expect global starvation, but food will become more and more expensive for sure.

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The real question is how would each country handle this crisis. And at what scale is the conflicts going to break?


in my own country, now the government is intensively financing MSMEs and also farmers to be independent and grow various plants well ... even now the government is also deploying graduates who have just graduated to assist farmers in developing their agriculture.. with this decision made by the government, we have succeeded in making our country's supply chain less affected by inflation and the global food crisis
legendary
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The global food situation is worsening every second and in a month or two could lead to mass unrest followed by regimes suppressing the violence and eventually a wider war between countries stealing each other's food supplies to ease their domestic unrest, something similar but worse than what we saw during the first months of pandemic where Europeans countries were stealing from each other to ease their own crisis.

Let's take a quick look at a series of events:
1. Russia and Ukraine are two big producers, Russia invades and production is ceased in Ukraine.
2. Russia is sanctioned to put economic pressure on them so their exports to 99% of the world is completely stopped
3. Other producers like India follow this trend and stop their exports
4. Price of food soars as scarcity is now a serious threat
5. Other countries are embracing for the crisis by trying desperately to increase their own production but fertilizer exports are also ceased so the domestic production has also decreased significantly in most countries.
6. China is mass purchasing any food (wheat, etc.) that are found in the world and is also pre-purchasing future production (as much as anybody would sell them) at high prices.
7. France is already telling Ukraine to give up defending so that maybe they can avert food crisis themselves!

The real question is how would each country handle this crisis. And at what scale is the conflicts going to break?

In West Asia we are producing most of our needs already but the pressure is still felt here. The biggest problem we are facing is the neighbors. The borders are already being tightened as we speak to handle immigration and prevent illegal exports that are basically stealing food!

Correct me if I'm wrong but Europe seems to be highly dependent on imports when it comes to basic food (wheat, oil, live-stock feed, etc.) and others and the supply has decreased while the prices are soaring.
US doesn't seem to be doing well either as they are currently trying to rob Ukraine and transfer all their wheat supply to reduce the crisis US itself is facing through the western border while Russia is still busy in the east and south and the world isn't looking.

This is starting to feel like WWII already when the Allies invaded India for example and how Churchil stole their food and starved more than 3 million Indians to death. The difference however is that the option to invade East to survive their European War aka WWII is no longer there for the West, so my guess would be a lot of conflict between different countries in Europe if the food crisis worsens, NATO falling apart and eventual mass migration towards East.
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