Topic: Who profits more during bull Market, trader vs holder? - page 4. (Read 1413 times)

If what you are asking is that just a couple of days ago there was a little pumped in the Bitcoin price that reached 71000$ plus then there was also an immediate correction down to 69000$ something that even continued around 67800$ is if you were able to sell around 71000$ and you were able to buyback 68000$, let's say that's a pretty good timing to take a profit.

Now, who is the only one of the two between holders or traders? I think it's the same, although the risk is higher on the part of the traders who
went along with the trend that happened recently.

Most of the coins increase in price during the bull market and if you invest during this period the profit level will be relatively higher. But there is a wide difference between a trader and a holder. A trader may take some profit from a bull market and move to profit from another trade. But those holders try to limit themselves to specific coins. And in this case those who are long term holders will definitely benefit more than others. I can definitely say that a holder can definitely be more profitable than a trader. A trader normally try to sell his assets with some profits when the price of an asset rises, but a holder has the opportunity to sell at a relatively high profit. That's why I think the profit of the holder is  more in the bull run.

Both would deliver during the Bull market, the thing is to wait long enough to see the results, if a person does trade and hold BTC, for example, however, I wouldn't trade big coins at all due to risks being bigger than the potential from such actions or leverage.

..Or to trade only with the money you are willing to trade away, basically.
Then it's all fine - even then, the risks that you talked about should be understood and remembered about opening each position, with leverage or not.

To be specific, the trader has more chance to gain more profit. But do not forget that they have a chance to lose more money because the market becomes too volatile during the bull run. So, let's say a trader opened a long position with 10x leverage, but the market takes a small correction. That simple move can change the market and the trader can lose his entire balance.

But during the bull run, a holder will surely gain some profit. It could be a hundred dollars, or a thousand dollars depending on how much they are holding and what coin/token they are holding. But it will be more safe gain the trader. I would go for hold if someone asked me to choose one.

The risk / potential ratio is, of course, there.
And it truly depends on what a person desires, and what resources she or he has.
If done responsibly, both can generate the needed results, however, both can have bad outcomes if done with a greed going for it.

We all know the answer to your question but is this comparison even necessary? Oshosondy seems to explain it already in the first reply. In this space, the concern is not just about the profit but also the process. While traders will quickly make much more profit than holders, they are also taking much more risk.

A business man who's making 2x profits on a daily basis while sitting in one one place and the one carrying his goods up and down but making 5x or more profits, who do you think make more profits? Of course, everyone will say the later makes more profits but in reality it's the former that makes more profits because he's free from every form of risk involved in carrying the goods around. That's just the case between holders and traders.

I would say that the traders have more potential of the knowledge is there, and hodlers - the stability of their investments are the highest if the coin is reliable and big.

Depends on the targets put in and how much time funds and resilience a person has.
Both ways can be profitable and disastrous at the same time.

During bull runs,  people earn profits differently. Some traders take more profits while other traders take very low profits, making long term hodlers more profitable than them. This means that the profitability of a trader during the bull run depends on how skilled and experienced he is to perfectly time the market. Where the trader has a perfect strategy, he will make more profits by skillfully taking advantage of the multiple profit taking opportunities available within that period of bullrun.

But if we are comparing between an unskilled trader and a long term hodler, the holdler (depending on the amount he has invested) Has the higher chance to take home more profits. The profitability of these two investors depends on their strategies and perfect timing of the market.

Answering the question in the title of the thread and this is based on experience, in terms of frequency trading will be more frequent profits during this bull run, but it is not about the amount of profit, only about frequency and holder is the winner.
However, not many traders can turn into holders because they get bored waiting for price to rise, but it is the holders who always win, especially Bitcoin holders.

Some traders can make more money and although the risk is also large when they are involved in it.
It can be said to depend on the ability of everyone to trade or hold with different beliefs.
The advantage for holding does not need to be afraid of liquidation and although there is a severe correction that occurs in the holding market can withstand bitcoin in the wallet they keep with not panic consideration.
Traders will be more at risk of loss when the level of liquidation exceeds the price they buy and determined by a system that cannot be determined by the traders themselves.

Traders do not need to wait for market conditions because what they need to do is an analysis to enter the market to run trade in accordance with what they know and even though the risk is also large about losses.

Apart from the risk involve in trading, traders do make more money in crypto market than holders even during bull run.

When you buy Bitcoin on the spot or any coin, you can be rest assured that you are holding the coin in your wallet and you can sell it anytime you want, you have no tension of benign liquidated due to little market correction.`
So even during the bear market, professional traders know their way out to make money from the market. Therefore, in my opinion; traders get more profit than holders in all market situation, but they are also prone to lose money due to the risk involved.

If you talking about trading we can be specific on the kind of trade to do, which includes spot trading, feature, forex or binary options. All these trade has their functions because when you trade on these listed trading you would get different results and separate amount as profits from them. What I mean is trading can be more profitable depending on the trading you want to involved yourself with, then looking at the other way round you would see that holding is also pretty much fine for you to hold but this required long term journey to have a better cash out from it. The only reason why holdings is more preferably is that you wouldn't involved yourself with trade or losing more money except if bitcoin price keeps declining.

I think it was actually when the market is bullish is the ones where the traders can earn and not when it is dumping continuously because even if they buy at highs, they can still sell it at even higher price when the bull/pump continues.

I actually think they have the same goal and that is, none other than to make a profit out of this market of cryptos. It is just that one is earning little by little but more quicker than the other who is more on a passive side but the earning potential is still bigger. It is because their profits are only stacking. So profit wise, I think they are still equal or their difference are not that far away from each other. I won't say holders take a least risk because what if they invest on a risky coin like a shitcoin and meme coin?

For traders, the act of trading is already risky but they can make it even more risky by using leverages, trading with no knowledge, and trading using the type of coins I mentioned earlier. I wouldn't include selling earlier because this is already counted to what I said earlier, because if not, they won't worry when they see their cryptos are only rising and they can even hold it a little longer. Anyone can take advantage of the volatility. They can either buy or sell, depending on where the price is heading at.

Talking about less risks or somewhat in using up that safe word then Bitcoin would be really be the best choice in terms of that at least having that assurance that your money will increase out overtime but of course
not all people will really be having that kind of preference on seeing a small amount of profit that they could get on which they are aware on how altcoins could give out that so much more potential profits if they would really be trying out to diversify. Actually its not really that a bad thing to consider yet diversification does really have that kind of advantage but of course its not something that you will really be able to make yourself have some assurance that you could make sure profits into those investments that you had made out. In regarding about on the question on whose making more profits on a bull market? Both are really that raking it up
but it would really be just that different with numbers but what matter the most is that they are making money out of it.

There are really just that those individuals who arent that getting contented on what they are earning but actually everything will really be basing up on how you would be making out decisions
whether you will really be making some short or long trades or simply just holding.

Bitcoin is volatile like other cryptocurrencies but it is less volatile compares to thousands of altcoins in this market.

Bitcoin is safest because history shows it always recovers after -70%, -80% corrections from ATHs. After any terrible market, it recovers and gets its ATH back, even makes new ATH. Altcoins are different and I only can see Ethereum can recover from bear market and has its new ATH in a new 4-year market cycle. If I miss other altcoins can perform like Ethereum, I believe it is not more than such 5 altcoins. Perhaps Monero but with more regulations against Privacy in cryptocurrency market, Monero won't have too bright future.

In any kind of market? Bitcoin is NOT the most stable, but it's absolutely the safest investment you can make in crypto. Why? Because it's simply the only cryptocurrency that's NOT a scam. I'm probably wrong, but I believe EVERYTHING except Bitcoin, and maybe two or three other blockchains, actually make sense.

Plus for those "traders" who want to outperform Bitcoin, perhaps you'll have a better opportunity to profit in more units in Bitcoin by holding MSTR stock during the bull cycle.

This the different strategy you mentioned. Every investor and trader has own strategy. Most of the investor invest for long term who haven’t any financial crisis can hold for long term for healthy profit. On the other hand who are disable to hold the nerve exit with low profit or loss.On the other hand trader has a different strategy. Trader has need many things to observe and study before doing this. I think trading is much and more tough than investing. Investor just invest money until get a good profit. Trader always need to observe the market and also analysis it before entering on the market and need to make a plan always to exit with profit. If his prediction goes wrong he/she will be on loss.However trading is always a good way gf earning when market is on good uptrend . On other hand investor need to invest on market when market on downtrend on low price and need to be patient untill reach his target point.

That will not easy to say who profits more between a long term holder and traders. They have their own way to make a profit from Bitcoin so we can not say that trader or holder will be more profits in the bull run. That will depends on how much money they invest in Bitcoin and how much money they use to trade and how big their profit. But if a trade open a trading long position when the price is $71,000 and the price is going down, he will lose for temporary and if he can not add more trade, he will really lose the money. But the holder will be in profits in this matter because they can determine on which price they want to sell. They can sell at $71,000 or still waiting for the price reach more than $100,000 so his profits will be bigger.