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October 13, 2016, 11:55:15 PM


Death is finalperiod If people pay their last respects to the dead upon burial (or ash), how much more should we, the people, pay our respects to each other - all of whom are still alive today, and able to enjoy the fullness that life offers?

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October 13, 2016, 11:19:16 PM
Atheists hate religion because they don't realize that the controls and limits religious laws place on people actually help peopl to live better lives. Rather, atheists think that they are being stolen from by religion, when all the time religion is trying to discipline them so that they can live a better life.

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I agree that some people do become better people within society after discovering religion but these people are usually struggling internally with their own demons and turning to religion is their last hope. What about the people who don't need religion to be in control of their lives. What exactly is a "better life" for these people?

Religion isn't stealing anything from me as I have chosen not to follow any religion (and yes I'm aware that you think Atheism is a religion, but I don't share this stance). By freeing myself from religion I'm able to explore and learn without constraints.


Examine the good things around you. Get out into the country and watch the clouds for a day, and the stars for a night. Beautiful. Religion offers hope that you will see these and better things in the next life, that you won't lose them when you die. When such hope is believed, most of life can become joyful. Health improves, and even poor health is made more acceptable. Find the right religion offering a future life, and you will even gain that future life.

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You're making the assumption that non-religious people don't already do these things, so how would finding any religion, least of all the "right religion", benefit the people that do in anyway?

You've also mentioned one of the main points about most religions that I find detracts from our current existence, the promise of eternal life. Our current existence becomes more meaningful without this promise. Life should not be treated like a rewards program. Act how you'd like to be treated yourself today instead of sinning then begging for absolution from your forgiving deity.
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October 13, 2016, 10:45:18 PM
Religion divides people & facilitates war & strife. 

Religion is used as an excuse to enslave others & invade countries.

It is used to control women & their bodies.

The Old Testament is over 5000 years old; the New Testament is over 2000 years old.

Religion is still barbaric. 

Dark Ages are over.  Maybe that's why Atheists & Agnostics dislike religion.
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October 13, 2016, 08:38:59 PM
Atheists hate religion because they don't realize that the controls and limits religious laws place on people actually help peopl to live better lives. Rather, atheists think that they are being stolen from by religion, when all the time religion is trying to discipline them so that they can live a better life.

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I agree that some people do become better people within society after discovering religion but these people are usually struggling internally with their own demons and turning to religion is their last hope. What about the people who don't need religion to be in control of their lives. What exactly is a "better life" for these people?

Religion isn't stealing anything from me as I have chosen not to follow any religion (and yes I'm aware that you think Atheism is a religion, but I don't share this stance). By freeing myself from religion I'm able to explore and learn without constraints.


Examine the good things around you. Get out into the country and watch the clouds for a day, and the stars for a night. Beautiful. Religion offers hope that you will see these and better things in the next life, that you won't lose them when you die. When such hope is believed, most of life can become joyful. Health improves, and even poor health is made more acceptable. Find the right religion offering a future life, and you will even gain that future life.

Cool
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October 13, 2016, 07:33:35 PM
Most of the atheists I met were very fanatic, similar to fanatic theists. They were extremists in their own way, they were very confident with their idea and try to convince the believers. The believers try to convince the atheist in turn.
It's not hard to see why some atheists would behave this way. The ancient religions of the world promote their followers to actively engage others not of their faith to convert. In the past it was either convert or be killed. These days the killing part has been replaced largely by "be ridiculed", although you still see many examples of killing still occurring.

I don't condone anyone actively seeking to convert others. As per my previous post, it shows a basic lack of respect for another person.

If people choice to have an open discussion about the subject though, that's a different story, but people still need to respect each other and rather than attack the person directly, which unfortunately occurs quite often, they need to discuss their reasoning for their beliefs.

Atheists hate religion because they don't realize that the controls and limits religious laws place on people actually help peopl to live better lives. Rather, atheists think that they are being stolen from by religion, when all the time religion is trying to discipline them so that they can live a better life.

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I agree that some people do become better people within society after discovering religion but these people are usually struggling internally with their own demons and turning to religion is their last hope. What about the people who don't need religion to be in control of their lives. What exactly is a "better life" for these people?

Religion isn't stealing anything from me as I have chosen not to follow any religion (and yes I'm aware that you think Atheism is a religion, but I don't share this stance). By freeing myself from religion I'm able to explore and learn without constraints.
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October 13, 2016, 06:09:25 PM
Atheists hate religion because they don't realize that the controls and limits religious laws place on people actually help peopl to live better lives. Rather, atheists think that they are being stolen from by religion, when all the time religion is trying to discipline them so that they can live a better life.

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October 13, 2016, 05:36:27 PM
Atheists "hate" religion because they see it as something primitive
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October 13, 2016, 01:39:16 PM
And who said that atheists hate religion? They do not recognize and have every right to be. In addition, they laugh with normal people who in the 20th century believe in fairy tales.

That's it. Atheists care about religion. They did not try to prove to anyone, just live and enjoy life

Atheist: a person who denies or disbelieves the existence of a supreme being or beings.

Most of the atheists I met were very fanatic, similar to fanatic theists. They were extremists in their own way, they were very confident with their idea and try to convince the believers. The believers try to convince the atheist in turn. It's a great show to watch two of these arguing when none of them wants to change their opinion, also a great way to ruin parties  Cheesy
 
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October 13, 2016, 12:32:34 PM
And who said that atheists hate religion? They do not recognize and have every right to be. In addition, they laugh with normal people who in the 20th century believe in fairy tales.

That's it. Atheists care about religion. They did not try to prove to anyone, just live and enjoy life
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October 13, 2016, 12:19:09 PM
And who said that atheists hate religion? They do not recognize and have every right to be. In addition, they laugh with normal people who in the 20th century believe in fairy tales.
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October 13, 2016, 12:14:55 PM
I've been reading this thread for a while, thought it was time I posted in it.

I'm Catholic by birth but an Atheist by choice.

I don't hate religion but there are certain aspects of religions that I do not like eg. intolerance of others, inequality of the sexes etc.

I do hate people who try to force their religion upon you in the same way that I hate anyone trying to force their opinion onto someone else. Everyone should have the freedom to choose what they believe and others should be respectful of another person's choices regardless of whether they believe the same or not.



I agree that your reasons are valid and I feel the same thing and also holding to your position but myself on the other hand I am not an Atheist and I don't think Atheist hates religion they hated the way its being practiced because I have met quite a number of them who are honest, straight forward and even patriotic and wont even converts whats not theirs compared to the "religious" people.

Another reason why people also thinks Atheist hates religion is because they have reasons for that thing a religious person will call FAITH for example praying to be rich without working.
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October 13, 2016, 12:55:56 AM
I've been reading this thread for a while, thought it was time I posted in it.

I'm Catholic by birth but an Atheist by choice.

I don't hate religion but there are certain aspects of religions that I do not like eg. intolerance of others, inequality of the sexes etc.

I do hate people who try to force their religion upon you in the same way that I hate anyone trying to force their opinion onto someone else. Everyone should have the freedom to choose what they believe and others should be respectful of another person's choices regardless of whether they believe the same or not.

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October 12, 2016, 08:50:29 PM
Time and space no such thing in the universe..We created it for ourselves Wink..
We need time to go to work..Not in the universe no such thing it's endless and no time..
If there was no time, everything would happen at once. You can measure the speed of light.  Light is not man-made. Light is not everywhere at once (sometimes takes millions of years).

If there was no space, you wouldn't exist.  Space and time is not a man-made invention.

At some stage in history we all come from 1 point we are expanding..
1 point expanding doesn't mean everything is randomness. Even ourselves is proof that not everything is random. Do you wake up one day and decide to change sexuality? or to change sex?


My God buries my enemies Roll Eyes..
I thought you go to a funeral and humans ether burn the dead or you buries your dead..

So next time someone dies who i know i thinks i will just leave him on the floor so god can bury him it will save me 4 thousand pounds for the funeral..Cheesy Cheesy..
This was a joke  Wink
1 point expanding doesn't mean everything is randomness. Even ourselves is proof that not everything is random. Do you wake up one day and decide to change sexuality? or to change sex?..I could do if i wanted too Grin..

If there was no space, you wouldn't exist..
Words mean nothing to the universe humans made that up to communicate..
It as no thought it just does and we humans do the thinking..

The Earth and the Sun formed 4.6 billion years ago and the crust cooled enough for liquid water by 4.3 billion years ago. Life on Earth started somewhere between 4.0 and 3.5 billion years ago, so within a few hundred million years to half a billion years after the planet had cooled enough to support life, the first living cell form of life appeared on Earth. Evolution and DNA analysis have shown that all of the life that is currently on Earth is descended from that first primitive form of life. That is a fact that has been amply demonstrated and is beyond doubt.

Experiments have also shown that lightning strikes in a simulated early Earth environment are capable of creating a large variety of carbonaceous compounds including amino acids, polymers and even nucleic acids. So the basic chemicals that living cells are made of could have been abundant in that early Earth environment.


Newton's 3rd Law shows us that there is absolutely no randomness.

The thing that people call random is simply the fact that in our ignorance and inability, we can't see most of the cause and effect.

We have proven loads of cause and effect, but nothing whatsoever that is real random.

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Even though it is one of the fundamental laws of physics, Newton's third law can be violated in certain nonequilibrium (out-of-balance) situations. When two objects or particles violate the third law, they are said to have nonreciprocal interactions.
Newton's 3rd Law is stated in only a few words. The thing that is violated is the simplicity of the few words. All that is being done by the supposed non-equilibrium is to make the Law into a something that is complex. The Law still stands.



Read more at: http://phys.org/news/2015-05-newton-law-broken.html#jCp
One example of a system with nonreciprocal interactions that the researchers experimentally demonstrated in their study involves charged microparticles levitating above an electrode in a plasma chamber. The violation of Newton's third law arises from the fact that the system involves two types of microparticles that levitate at different heights due to their different sizes and densities. The electric field in the chamber drives a vertical plasma flow, like a current in a river, and each charged microparticle focuses the flowing plasma ions downstream, creating a vertical plasma wake behind it.
This simple forum is not the place to demonstrate the inaccuracies that these experimenters made in their conclusions.



SO IS GOD DEAD Wink Wink Cheesy Cheesy..You still live in the 1700s and think god will save the day Cheesy Cheesy..

When will people learn that words mean nothing to the UNIVERSE we humans do the thinking..
Anything is possible because the universe as no thought Grin Grin..
God over all is alive forever. It is people who can barely manipulate things a little tiny touch... and then die as their manipulations fall apart.



Time and space do not exist to the universe we made it up..
Now we made up time and space it's up to us humans as to what to do with it Wink..
But it is God that made and holds humans alive... and in reasonable freedom in their ignorant weakness.



But badecker will be waiting for GOD to do something?..

I suppose you will say god switches newtons 3rd law off sometimes Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy..

YOUR GOD IS THICK AS SHIT Grin Grin..

And all that time you thought newtons 3rd law was your answer to god science:D Cheesy Cheesy


You will never be able to hold yourself alive. But watch what will happen. Soon God will make it so that people cannot die when they want to die, just to prove to them that He is in control. He is using the pride of man in their genetic manipulations to make this happen right now. Soon it will be manifested.

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October 12, 2016, 08:39:53 PM
as soon as the atheist says that he does not believe in God, believers are trying to convince him at once. Atheists do not like the believers because they impose on them your opinion

^^^^^^^ Like @BADecker?

 Grin

Believers are trying to save atheists from themselves, because atheists don't realize that atheism is impossible. The only thing atheists are doing is destroying themselves. If they really want to destroy themselves, they have that choice. But they should in all fairness at least be made aware of what they are doing.

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October 12, 2016, 07:07:57 PM
Time and space no such thing in the universe..We created it for ourselves Wink..
We need time to go to work..Not in the universe no such thing it's endless and no time..
If there was no time, everything would happen at once. You can measure the speed of light.  Light is not man-made. Light is not everywhere at once (sometimes takes millions of years).

If there was no space, you wouldn't exist.  Space and time is not a man-made invention.

At some stage in history we all come from 1 point we are expanding..
1 point expanding doesn't mean everything is randomness. Even ourselves is proof that not everything is random. Do you wake up one day and decide to change sexuality? or to change sex?


My God buries my enemies Roll Eyes..
I thought you go to a funeral and humans ether burn the dead or you buries your dead..

So next time someone dies who i know i thinks i will just leave him on the floor so god can bury him it will save me 4 thousand pounds for the funeral..Cheesy Cheesy..
This was a joke  Wink
1 point expanding doesn't mean everything is randomness. Even ourselves is proof that not everything is random. Do you wake up one day and decide to change sexuality? or to change sex?..I could do if i wanted too Grin..

If there was no space, you wouldn't exist..
Words mean nothing to the universe humans made that up to communicate..
It as no thought it just does and we humans do the thinking..

The Earth and the Sun formed 4.6 billion years ago and the crust cooled enough for liquid water by 4.3 billion years ago. Life on Earth started somewhere between 4.0 and 3.5 billion years ago, so within a few hundred million years to half a billion years after the planet had cooled enough to support life, the first living cell form of life appeared on Earth. Evolution and DNA analysis have shown that all of the life that is currently on Earth is descended from that first primitive form of life. That is a fact that has been amply demonstrated and is beyond doubt.

Experiments have also shown that lightning strikes in a simulated early Earth environment are capable of creating a large variety of carbonaceous compounds including amino acids, polymers and even nucleic acids. So the basic chemicals that living cells are made of could have been abundant in that early Earth environment.


Newton's 3rd Law shows us that there is absolutely no randomness.

The thing that people call random is simply the fact that in our ignorance and inability, we can't see most of the cause and effect.

We have proven loads of cause and effect, but nothing whatsoever that is real random.

Cool
Even though it is one of the fundamental laws of physics, Newton's third law can be violated in certain nonequilibrium (out-of-balance) situations. When two objects or particles violate the third law, they are said to have nonreciprocal interactions.

Read more at: http://phys.org/news/2015-05-newton-law-broken.html#jCp
One example of a system with nonreciprocal interactions that the researchers experimentally demonstrated in their study involves charged microparticles levitating above an electrode in a plasma chamber. The violation of Newton's third law arises from the fact that the system involves two types of microparticles that levitate at different heights due to their different sizes and densities. The electric field in the chamber drives a vertical plasma flow, like a current in a river, and each charged microparticle focuses the flowing plasma ions downstream, creating a vertical plasma wake behind it.

SO IS GOD DEAD Wink Wink Cheesy Cheesy..You still live in the 1700s and think god will save the day Cheesy Cheesy..

When will people learn that words mean nothing to the UNIVERSE we humans do the thinking..
Anything is possible because the universe as no thought Grin Grin..

Time and space do not exist to the universe we made it up..
Now we made up time and space it's up to us humans as to what to do with it Wink..

But badecker will be waiting for GOD to do something?..

I suppose you will say god switches newtons 3rd law off sometimes Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy..

YOUR GOD IS THICK AS SHIT Grin Grin..

And all that time you thought newtons 3rd law was your answer to god science:D Cheesy Cheesy



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October 12, 2016, 06:11:55 PM
as soon as the atheist says that he does not believe in God, believers are trying to convince him at once. Atheists do not like the believers because they impose on them your opinion

^^^^^^^ Like @BADecker?

 Grin
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October 12, 2016, 02:27:18 PM
as soon as the atheist says that he does not believe in God, believers are trying to convince him at once. Atheists do not like the believers because they impose on them your opinion
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October 12, 2016, 01:40:49 PM
Because there are not believing in god they have own god and they treating there selves as god and i think they had so much bad experience in there life that they ask god to help them but it didn't happen thats why the reason i think why they hating religions and gods they had own beliefs and we should respect each other.


It's interesting how everybody - atheist, theist and agnostic and any other orientation you can think of, all treat the dead with the same respect. Why, I ask myself, is this the case? And this question is only for the purpose of being rhetorically entertained; because I already know the answer to this question.   Grin

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October 12, 2016, 08:08:15 AM
Because there are not believing in god they have own god and they treating there selves as god and i think they had so much bad experience in there life that they ask god to help them but it didn't happen thats why the reason i think why they hating religions and gods they had own beliefs and we should respect each other.

I think saying that they treat themselves as god is not really right - I think they just don't believe in any god, period.

But yeah I think that they've been through something really bad and did not feel the presence of God's mercy that's why they think it really doesn't exist
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October 12, 2016, 07:27:16 AM
I do not understand his way of thinking. but a clear mutual respect is one way to create a peace. every man would want to live a safe, comfortable and peaceful.
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