Topic: Why do Atheists Hate Religion? - page 137. (Read 901342 times)
Because there are not believing in god they have own god and they treating there selves as god and i think they had so much bad experience in there life that they ask god to help them but it didn't happen thats why the reason i think why they hating religions and gods they had own beliefs and we should respect each other.
I don't believe live evolved out of pure randomness because of the time constraint. Time and space is connected and before the big bang there was no time. The age of the universe is about 14 billion years. I don't think this 14 billion years is enough time for randomness to create life and complex structure like human beings.
If you think "randomness" is the way science explains the development of life on earth, you have not studied (or you have not understood) the concept of evolution by natural selection, which is all but random.
Religion taught us the way of living and to worship the one who created us, which is not acceptable to them.
Do you mean we must stone to death women who cheat on their husband?
Or killing people for apostasy?
Or practice slavery?
Or sacrifice animals to please a god?
Raping women and killing babies when we conquer a country?
Not sure which part you are referring to..but I like them all!
@RoomBot @BADecker Haha, you guys are funny.
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That's right! "devine" IS fake.
He said "Divine."
Actually, he didn't capitalize it.
That's right! "devine" IS fake.
He said "Divine."
When scientists look for new things, there are always those among them looking for pure random. In addition, there are those who do little other than look for pure random.
Pure random is an abstract idea that we have a very difficult time determining what it might look like. Part of the reason for this is the fact that so extremely many things we recognize operate by cause and effect. In fact, the idea of being a scientist is the idea of looking for the thing that caused something. The better the scientist is, the more he looks for causes.
If science found something that was random, the next thing they would do is look for the thing that caused it to be random.
The cosmic show plays out in patterns - all of it, everywhere, all of the time. Given this context, randomness would simply mean the emergence of erratic, unplanned, unexpected and unusually odd new patterns.
If indeed the new pattern were not (specifically) predetermined, then we have found true randomness. Here, true or pure random means out of the range of possible new emergent patterns, the one to emerge could not have been foreseen (predetermined) by anyone or anything (including "God").
As you say, "If."
There are countless trillions of actions and reactions that cause the supposed patternless displays. Since all these are actions and reactions, they are the effects of causes. No pure random there.
Those countless trillions of actions and reactions might have a deterministic effect, but it will only be effective in that specific level (dimension) of reality. Without if we all will cease to exist. This is where we dream and imagine. Why do you think we bury our dead with a revered ceremony/ritual. It's because of if. Pure randomness in the realm of mind is divine.
Of course, now you are talking almost pure fantasy. Since the overwhelming operation that we know about in the universe is cause and effect, probably all the dimensional realities work by cause and effect as well.
Pure randomness in the realm of mind might be devine, but it is fake as well.
When scientists look for new things, there are always those among them looking for pure random. In addition, there are those who do little other than look for pure random.
Pure random is an abstract idea that we have a very difficult time determining what it might look like. Part of the reason for this is the fact that so extremely many things we recognize operate by cause and effect. In fact, the idea of being a scientist is the idea of looking for the thing that caused something. The better the scientist is, the more he looks for causes.
If science found something that was random, the next thing they would do is look for the thing that caused it to be random.
The cosmic show plays out in patterns - all of it, everywhere, all of the time. Given this context, randomness would simply mean the emergence of erratic, unplanned, unexpected and unusually odd new patterns.
If indeed the new pattern were not (specifically) predetermined, then we have found true randomness. Here, true or pure random means out of the range of possible new emergent patterns, the one to emerge could not have been foreseen (predetermined) by anyone or anything (including "God").
As you say, "If."
There are countless trillions of actions and reactions that cause the supposed patternless displays. Since all these are actions and reactions, they are the effects of causes. No pure random there.
Those countless trillions of actions and reactions might have a deterministic effect, but it will only be effective in that specific level (dimension) of reality. Without if we all will cease to exist. This is where we dream and imagine. Why do you think we bury our dead with a revered ceremony/ritual. It's because of if. Pure randomness in the realm of mind is divine.
When scientists look for new things, there are always those among them looking for pure random. In addition, there are those who do little other than look for pure random.
Pure random is an abstract idea that we have a very difficult time determining what it might look like. Part of the reason for this is the fact that so extremely many things we recognize operate by cause and effect. In fact, the idea of being a scientist is the idea of looking for the thing that caused something. The better the scientist is, the more he looks for causes.
If science found something that was random, the next thing they would do is look for the thing that caused it to be random.
The cosmic show plays out in patterns - all of it, everywhere, all of the time. Given this context, randomness would simply mean the emergence of erratic, unplanned, unexpected and unusually odd new patterns.
If indeed the new pattern were not (specifically) predetermined, then we have found true randomness. Here, true or pure random means out of the range of possible new emergent patterns, the one to emerge could not have been foreseen (predetermined) by anyone or anything (including "God").
As you say, "If."
There are countless trillions of actions and reactions that cause the supposed patternless displays. Since all these are actions and reactions, they are the effects of causes. No pure random there.
When scientists look for new things, there are always those among them looking for pure random. In addition, there are those who do little other than look for pure random.
Pure random is an abstract idea that we have a very difficult time determining what it might look like. Part of the reason for this is the fact that so extremely many things we recognize operate by cause and effect. In fact, the idea of being a scientist is the idea of looking for the thing that caused something. The better the scientist is, the more he looks for causes.
If science found something that was random, the next thing they would do is look for the thing that caused it to be random.
The cosmic show plays out in patterns - all of it, everywhere, all of the time. Given this context, randomness would simply mean the emergence of erratic, unplanned, unexpected and unusually odd new patterns.
If indeed the new pattern were not (specifically) predetermined, then we have found true randomness. Here, true or pure random means out of the range of possible new emergent patterns, the one to emerge could not have been foreseen (predetermined) by anyone or anything (including "God").
Time and space no such thing in the universe..We created it for ourselves 
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We need time to go to work..Not in the universe no such thing it's endless and no time..
If there was no time, everything would happen at once. You can measure the speed of light. Light is not man-made. Light is not everywhere at once (sometimes takes millions of years)...We need time to go to work..Not in the universe no such thing it's endless and no time..
If there was no space, you wouldn't exist. Space and time is not a man-made invention.
At some stage in history we all come from 1 point we are expanding..
1 point expanding doesn't mean everything is randomness. Even ourselves is proof that not everything is random. Do you wake up one day and decide to change sexuality? or to change sex? My God buries my enemies 
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I thought you go to a funeral and humans ether burn the dead or you buries your dead..
So next time someone dies who i know i thinks i will just leave him on the floor so god can bury him it will save me 4 thousand pounds for the funeral..
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This was a joke ..I thought you go to a funeral and humans ether burn the dead or you buries your dead..
So next time someone dies who i know i thinks i will just leave him on the floor so god can bury him it will save me 4 thousand pounds for the funeral..
..
..If there was no space, you wouldn't exist..
Words mean nothing to the universe humans made that up to communicate..
It as no thought it just does and we humans do the thinking..
The Earth and the Sun formed 4.6 billion years ago and the crust cooled enough for liquid water by 4.3 billion years ago. Life on Earth started somewhere between 4.0 and 3.5 billion years ago, so within a few hundred million years to half a billion years after the planet had cooled enough to support life, the first living cell form of life appeared on Earth. Evolution and DNA analysis have shown that all of the life that is currently on Earth is descended from that first primitive form of life. That is a fact that has been amply demonstrated and is beyond doubt.
Experiments have also shown that lightning strikes in a simulated early Earth environment are capable of creating a large variety of carbonaceous compounds including amino acids, polymers and even nucleic acids. So the basic chemicals that living cells are made of could have been abundant in that early Earth environment.
Newton's 3rd Law shows us that there is absolutely no randomness.
The thing that people call random is simply the fact that in our ignorance and inability, we can't see most of the cause and effect.
We have proven loads of cause and effect, but nothing whatsoever that is real random.
Good point how there are really no random things here in this Earth. But if it's the case, I don't think people now can comprehend beyond the 'randomness' of things. So I guess you can term this 'uncertainty' or 'ignorance' now can be the random entity of the present. Random now - tomorrow might not be the case.
When scientists look for new things, there are always those among them looking for pure random. In addition, there are those who do little other than look for pure random.
Pure random is an abstract idea that we have a very difficult time determining what it might look like. Part of the reason for this is the fact that so extremely many things we recognize operate by cause and effect. In fact, the idea of being a scientist is the idea of looking for the thing that caused something. The better the scientist is, the more he looks for causes.
If science found something that was random, the next thing they would do is look for the thing that caused it to be random.
Time and space no such thing in the universe..We created it for ourselves ..
We need time to go to work..Not in the universe no such thing it's endless and no time..
If there was no time, everything would happen at once. You can measure the speed of light. Light is not man-made. Light is not everywhere at once (sometimes takes millions of years)...We need time to go to work..Not in the universe no such thing it's endless and no time..
If there was no space, you wouldn't exist. Space and time is not a man-made invention.
At some stage in history we all come from 1 point we are expanding..
1 point expanding doesn't mean everything is randomness. Even ourselves is proof that not everything is random. Do you wake up one day and decide to change sexuality? or to change sex? My God buries my enemies ..
I thought you go to a funeral and humans ether burn the dead or you buries your dead..
So next time someone dies who i know i thinks i will just leave him on the floor so god can bury him it will save me 4 thousand pounds for the funeral.. ..
This was a joke ..I thought you go to a funeral and humans ether burn the dead or you buries your dead..
So next time someone dies who i know i thinks i will just leave him on the floor so god can bury him it will save me 4 thousand pounds for the funeral..
....If there was no space, you wouldn't exist..
Words mean nothing to the universe humans made that up to communicate..
It as no thought it just does and we humans do the thinking..
The Earth and the Sun formed 4.6 billion years ago and the crust cooled enough for liquid water by 4.3 billion years ago. Life on Earth started somewhere between 4.0 and 3.5 billion years ago, so within a few hundred million years to half a billion years after the planet had cooled enough to support life, the first living cell form of life appeared on Earth. Evolution and DNA analysis have shown that all of the life that is currently on Earth is descended from that first primitive form of life. That is a fact that has been amply demonstrated and is beyond doubt.
Experiments have also shown that lightning strikes in a simulated early Earth environment are capable of creating a large variety of carbonaceous compounds including amino acids, polymers and even nucleic acids. So the basic chemicals that living cells are made of could have been abundant in that early Earth environment.
Newton's 3rd Law shows us that there is absolutely no randomness.
The thing that people call random is simply the fact that in our ignorance and inability, we can't see most of the cause and effect.
We have proven loads of cause and effect, but nothing whatsoever that is real random.
Good point how there are really no random things here in this Earth. But if it's the case, I don't think people now can comprehend beyond the 'randomness' of things. So I guess you can term this 'uncertainty' or 'ignorance' now can be the random entity of the present. Random now - tomorrow might not be the case.
Words mean nothing to the universe humans made that up to communicate..
It as no thought it just does and we humans do the thinking..
Words and space are very different. Matter needs space. Blackholes is evidence It as no thought it just does and we humans do the thinking..
The Earth and the Sun formed 4.6 billion years ago and the crust cooled enough for liquid water by 4.3 billion years ago. Life on Earth started somewhere between 4.0 and 3.5 billion years ago, so within a few hundred million years to half a billion years after the planet had cooled enough to support life, the first living cell form of life appeared on Earth. Evolution and DNA analysis have shown that all of the life that is currently on Earth is descended from that first primitive form of life. That is a fact that has been amply demonstrated and is beyond doubt.
Experiments have also shown that lightning strikes in a simulated early Earth environment are capable of creating a large variety of carbonaceous compounds including amino acids, polymers and even nucleic acids. So the basic chemicals that living cells are made of could have been abundant in that early Earth environment.
Evolution is not random, neither is DNA. 4.6 billion years is very short for a DNA base pairs string of 3 billion base pars. Do you know the amount of combinations possible in DNA? If it were random, human DNA wouldn't be there yet. Experiments have also shown that lightning strikes in a simulated early Earth environment are capable of creating a large variety of carbonaceous compounds including amino acids, polymers and even nucleic acids. So the basic chemicals that living cells are made of could have been abundant in that early Earth environment.
When I turn on my tv and see noise, that is random. I don't think you ever see a nice picture pop up even if you wait 100 years.
Time and space no such thing in the universe..We created it for ourselves ..
We need time to go to work..Not in the universe no such thing it's endless and no time..
If there was no time, everything would happen at once. You can measure the speed of light. Light is not man-made. Light is not everywhere at once (sometimes takes millions of years)...We need time to go to work..Not in the universe no such thing it's endless and no time..
If there was no space, you wouldn't exist. Space and time is not a man-made invention.
At some stage in history we all come from 1 point we are expanding..
1 point expanding doesn't mean everything is randomness. Even ourselves is proof that not everything is random. Do you wake up one day and decide to change sexuality? or to change sex? My God buries my enemies ..
I thought you go to a funeral and humans ether burn the dead or you buries your dead..
So next time someone dies who i know i thinks i will just leave him on the floor so god can bury him it will save me 4 thousand pounds for the funeral.. ..
This was a joke ..I thought you go to a funeral and humans ether burn the dead or you buries your dead..
So next time someone dies who i know i thinks i will just leave him on the floor so god can bury him it will save me 4 thousand pounds for the funeral..
....If there was no space, you wouldn't exist..
Words mean nothing to the universe humans made that up to communicate..
It as no thought it just does and we humans do the thinking..
The Earth and the Sun formed 4.6 billion years ago and the crust cooled enough for liquid water by 4.3 billion years ago. Life on Earth started somewhere between 4.0 and 3.5 billion years ago, so within a few hundred million years to half a billion years after the planet had cooled enough to support life, the first living cell form of life appeared on Earth. Evolution and DNA analysis have shown that all of the life that is currently on Earth is descended from that first primitive form of life. That is a fact that has been amply demonstrated and is beyond doubt.
Experiments have also shown that lightning strikes in a simulated early Earth environment are capable of creating a large variety of carbonaceous compounds including amino acids, polymers and even nucleic acids. So the basic chemicals that living cells are made of could have been abundant in that early Earth environment.
Newton's 3rd Law shows us that there is absolutely no randomness.
The thing that people call random is simply the fact that in our ignorance and inability, we can't see most of the cause and effect.
We have proven loads of cause and effect, but nothing whatsoever that is real random.
Time and space no such thing in the universe..We created it for ourselves ..
We need time to go to work..Not in the universe no such thing it's endless and no time..
If there was no time, everything would happen at once. You can measure the speed of light. Light is not man-made. Light is not everywhere at once (sometimes takes millions of years)...We need time to go to work..Not in the universe no such thing it's endless and no time..
If there was no space, you wouldn't exist. Space and time is not a man-made invention.
At some stage in history we all come from 1 point we are expanding..
1 point expanding doesn't mean everything is randomness. Even ourselves is proof that not everything is random. Do you wake up one day and decide to change sexuality? or to change sex? My God buries my enemies ..
I thought you go to a funeral and humans ether burn the dead or you buries your dead..
So next time someone dies who i know i thinks i will just leave him on the floor so god can bury him it will save me 4 thousand pounds for the funeral.. ..
This was a joke ..I thought you go to a funeral and humans ether burn the dead or you buries your dead..
So next time someone dies who i know i thinks i will just leave him on the floor so god can bury him it will save me 4 thousand pounds for the funeral..
....If there was no space, you wouldn't exist..
Words mean nothing to the universe humans made that up to communicate..
It as no thought it just does and we humans do the thinking..
The Earth and the Sun formed 4.6 billion years ago and the crust cooled enough for liquid water by 4.3 billion years ago. Life on Earth started somewhere between 4.0 and 3.5 billion years ago, so within a few hundred million years to half a billion years after the planet had cooled enough to support life, the first living cell form of life appeared on Earth. Evolution and DNA analysis have shown that all of the life that is currently on Earth is descended from that first primitive form of life. That is a fact that has been amply demonstrated and is beyond doubt.
Experiments have also shown that lightning strikes in a simulated early Earth environment are capable of creating a large variety of carbonaceous compounds including amino acids, polymers and even nucleic acids. So the basic chemicals that living cells are made of could have been abundant in that early Earth environment.
Time and space no such thing in the universe..We created it for ourselves ..
We need time to go to work..Not in the universe no such thing it's endless and no time..
If there was no time, everything would happen at once. You can measure the speed of light. Light is not man-made. Light is not everywhere at once (sometimes takes millions of years)...We need time to go to work..Not in the universe no such thing it's endless and no time..
If there was no space, you wouldn't exist. Space and time is not a man-made invention.
At some stage in history we all come from 1 point we are expanding..
1 point expanding doesn't mean everything is randomness. Even ourselves is proof that not everything is random. Do you wake up one day and decide to change sexuality? or to change sex? My God buries my enemies ..
I thought you go to a funeral and humans ether burn the dead or you buries your dead..
So next time someone dies who i know i thinks i will just leave him on the floor so god can bury him it will save me 4 thousand pounds for the funeral.. ..
This was a joke ..I thought you go to a funeral and humans ether burn the dead or you buries your dead..
So next time someone dies who i know i thinks i will just leave him on the floor so god can bury him it will save me 4 thousand pounds for the funeral..
..
I'm surprised how long this thread had been going on for.
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