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legendary
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March 01, 2016, 03:44:41 AM

One might be able to measure air. And one might be able to see the effects of wind. But one can barely measure the wind at all... a little in its average speed or temperature in an area.

It is the same with God. Since the combined scientific laws of cause and effect, complex universe, and universal entropy, have proven that God exists, all one need do to detect and measure aspects of God is to detect and measure aspects of the universe.

Perhaps when people can finally think out the math of more that 6 dimensions clearly, they will be able to find ways of "seeing" and measuring the soul.

Cool

You keep telling shit about your freaking "laws" without ever giving out a correct definition for entropy...

Where do I tell anybody about my laws? If I do, I barely do.

Entropy, complex universe, and cause and effect are standard science laws. If you knew how to use the Internet, you would have been able to look these laws up yourself. What, does your mommy do your typing for you?

Cool

"complex universe" is not a law. If you think it is, please link to a peer reviewed paper which asserts that there is a law called the "complex universe law".

"Complex universe" is such a foundational law, readily seen and understood by everyone, that it does not need stating as a scientific law, except to atheists, who contradict themselves by stating that God does not exist.

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February 29, 2016, 08:45:19 PM

One might be able to measure air. And one might be able to see the effects of wind. But one can barely measure the wind at all... a little in its average speed or temperature in an area.

It is the same with God. Since the combined scientific laws of cause and effect, complex universe, and universal entropy, have proven that God exists, all one need do to detect and measure aspects of God is to detect and measure aspects of the universe.

Perhaps when people can finally think out the math of more that 6 dimensions clearly, they will be able to find ways of "seeing" and measuring the soul.

Cool

You keep telling shit about your freaking "laws" without ever giving out a correct definition for entropy...

Where do I tell anybody about my laws? If I do, I barely do.

Entropy, complex universe, and cause and effect are standard science laws. If you knew how to use the Internet, you would have been able to look these laws up yourself. What, does your mommy do your typing for you?

Cool

"complex universe" is not a law. If you think it is, please link to a peer reviewed paper which asserts that there is a law called the "complex universe law".




BD would you like some aloe vera for that burn? No? Must be used to them by not.
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February 29, 2016, 08:42:32 PM

One might be able to measure air. And one might be able to see the effects of wind. But one can barely measure the wind at all... a little in its average speed or temperature in an area.

It is the same with God. Since the combined scientific laws of cause and effect, complex universe, and universal entropy, have proven that God exists, all one need do to detect and measure aspects of God is to detect and measure aspects of the universe.

Perhaps when people can finally think out the math of more that 6 dimensions clearly, they will be able to find ways of "seeing" and measuring the soul.

Cool

You keep telling shit about your freaking "laws" without ever giving out a correct definition for entropy...

Where do I tell anybody about my laws? If I do, I barely do.

Entropy, complex universe, and cause and effect are standard science laws. If you knew how to use the Internet, you would have been able to look these laws up yourself. What, does your mommy do your typing for you?

Cool

"complex universe" is not a law. If you think it is, please link to a peer reviewed paper which asserts that there is a law called the "complex universe law".


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February 29, 2016, 08:31:54 PM

One might be able to measure air. And one might be able to see the effects of wind. But one can barely measure the wind at all... a little in its average speed or temperature in an area.

It is the same with God. Since the combined scientific laws of cause and effect, complex universe, and universal entropy, have proven that God exists, all one need do to detect and measure aspects of God is to detect and measure aspects of the universe.

Perhaps when people can finally think out the math of more that 6 dimensions clearly, they will be able to find ways of "seeing" and measuring the soul.

Cool

You keep telling shit about your freaking "laws" without ever giving out a correct definition for entropy...

Where do I tell anybody about my laws? If I do, I barely do.

Entropy, complex universe, and cause and effect are standard science laws. If you knew how to use the Internet, you would have been able to look these laws up yourself. What, does your mommy do your typing for you?

Cool

Entropy, complex universe, and cause and effect are not proof of God. They exist but don't mean that somewhere in the sky exists an old man that can do anything he wants. Think man.
legendary
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February 29, 2016, 07:39:26 PM

One might be able to measure air. And one might be able to see the effects of wind. But one can barely measure the wind at all... a little in its average speed or temperature in an area.

It is the same with God. Since the combined scientific laws of cause and effect, complex universe, and universal entropy, have proven that God exists, all one need do to detect and measure aspects of God is to detect and measure aspects of the universe.

Perhaps when people can finally think out the math of more that 6 dimensions clearly, they will be able to find ways of "seeing" and measuring the soul.

Cool

You keep telling shit about your freaking "laws" without ever giving out a correct definition for entropy...

Where do I tell anybody about my laws? If I do, I barely do.

Entropy, complex universe, and cause and effect are standard science laws. If you knew how to use the Internet, you would have been able to look these laws up yourself. What, does your mommy do your typing for you?

Cool
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February 29, 2016, 05:15:05 PM
I am a muslim but i never hate any atheists. I always say that atheism is not a belief.but choice of ignorance God's existence.
We muslims believe that world life is temporary and we're here for an examination. We try to obey Allah's order during life.
If an atheist hates religion,  that means he/she doesn't know anything about religion or knows wrong.
Religions advice only being good and live better and happy life. No hate, no sadness!
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February 29, 2016, 04:36:10 PM
Ouch. This stupidity hurts me.

You're wrong of course. Here the word "point" is used with a non mathematical definition. It's an expression to describe a truly tiny part of space. It's like when you say "oh, this ship is really far, it's barely a point on the horizon".

"Point" to you might be only a very tiny spot. But "point" in black hole theory means infinitely tiny, which also means, no size. No size means that it does not exist.

Cool

Oh you're talking about the real black hole theory? Not just your basic description of it?
Well yes it is infinitely tiny and so what? Why wouldn't it make any sense?

No size means it doesn't exist? Funny then tell me what's the size of the soul, of god, of heaven...  Grin

Now that you believe in God, you tell me His size.    Cool

Meh? What? Nah you're telling me it's impossible to have something that has no size but doesn't exist. I say it can. That's all.

Funny thing is you have but two choices:
1/ You accept that something without size can exist, hence Black holes theory might be true.
2/ You refuse something without a size can exist, hence Black holes theory is wrong but God and Souls do not exist as they have no size

Another logical dead end for religion.

What do God and souls have to do with size? And how do you know that they have no size. If you believe such without proof, then you have a religion going for yourself. But, by the very definition of the parts of black holes, the place where all the matter exists is point-size, which means that it has no size whatever. No size means no matter means no black hole.

The scientists and cosmologists and mathematicians are playing with the minds of people just to earn a living off them. And you fell for it.

Cool

If souls have a size why can't you we see them? Same goes for God.

The link between God-souls and size is that if what has no size can't exist, then where are the souls?

Can you see the wind? You can see some of the things that the wind does. But the wind itself is invisible. But you know it is there because you can feel it. What is this nonsense you are talking, that size has something to do with seeing?

Cool

The wind can be measured and weighted. Winds is easy to detect by conventional ways.

Why couldn't we ever measure the soul?

One might be able to measure air. And one might be able to see the effects of wind. But one can barely measure the wind at all... a little in its average speed or temperature in an area.

It is the same with God. Since the combined scientific laws of cause and effect, complex universe, and universal entropy, have proven that God exists, all one need do to detect and measure aspects of God is to detect and measure aspects of the universe.

Perhaps when people can finally think out the math of more that 6 dimensions clearly, they will be able to find ways of "seeing" and measuring the soul.

Cool

You keep telling shit about your freaking "laws" without ever giving out a correct definition for entropy...
legendary
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February 29, 2016, 03:50:22 PM
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One might be able to measure air. And one might be able to see the effects of wind. But one can barely measure the wind at all... a little in its average speed or temperature in an area.


What do you mean?  Wind is movement of air, is it?  
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anemometer

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http://www.amazon.com/Handheld-Anemometer-Temperature-Measurement-Lanyard/dp/B003PIDH7W

Unless of course you Christians re-define word wind to mean something else, something mystical and spiritual.

It is the same with God. Since the combined scientific laws of cause and effect, complex universe, and universal entropy, have proven that God exists, all one need do to detect and measure aspects of God is to detect and measure aspects of the universe.

Perhaps when people can finally think out the math of more that 6 dimensions clearly, they will be able to find ways of "seeing" and measuring the soul.

Cool

So you are saying God is universe?

All right. Maybe wind is movement of the ground under the air. And when the wind seems to be moving in different directions at different places at the same time, maybe it is really the ground that is moving in different directions in different places at the same time. What in the world are you talking about, "Wind is movement of air, is it?" How dense are you, anyway? And you seem to like being dense.

I looked through my posts, and I didn't see where I said that. Kindly show me where I said that so I can edit that post.

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legendary
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February 29, 2016, 03:08:21 PM
Ouch. This stupidity hurts me.

You're wrong of course. Here the word "point" is used with a non mathematical definition. It's an expression to describe a truly tiny part of space. It's like when you say "oh, this ship is really far, it's barely a point on the horizon".

"Point" to you might be only a very tiny spot. But "point" in black hole theory means infinitely tiny, which also means, no size. No size means that it does not exist.

Cool

Oh you're talking about the real black hole theory? Not just your basic description of it?
Well yes it is infinitely tiny and so what? Why wouldn't it make any sense?

No size means it doesn't exist? Funny then tell me what's the size of the soul, of god, of heaven...  Grin

Now that you believe in God, you tell me His size.    Cool

Meh? What? Nah you're telling me it's impossible to have something that has no size but doesn't exist. I say it can. That's all.

Funny thing is you have but two choices:
1/ You accept that something without size can exist, hence Black holes theory might be true.
2/ You refuse something without a size can exist, hence Black holes theory is wrong but God and Souls do not exist as they have no size

Another logical dead end for religion.

What do God and souls have to do with size? And how do you know that they have no size. If you believe such without proof, then you have a religion going for yourself. But, by the very definition of the parts of black holes, the place where all the matter exists is point-size, which means that it has no size whatever. No size means no matter means no black hole.

The scientists and cosmologists and mathematicians are playing with the minds of people just to earn a living off them. And you fell for it.

Cool

If souls have a size why can't you we see them? Same goes for God.

The link between God-souls and size is that if what has no size can't exist, then where are the souls?

Can you see the wind? You can see some of the things that the wind does. But the wind itself is invisible. But you know it is there because you can feel it. What is this nonsense you are talking, that size has something to do with seeing?

Cool

The wind can be measured and weighted. Winds is easy to detect by conventional ways.

Why couldn't we ever measure the soul?

One might be able to measure air. And one might be able to see the effects of wind. But one can barely measure the wind at all... a little in its average speed or temperature in an area.

It is the same with God. Since the combined scientific laws of cause and effect, complex universe, and universal entropy, have proven that God exists, all one need do to detect and measure aspects of God is to detect and measure aspects of the universe.

Perhaps when people can finally think out the math of more that 6 dimensions clearly, they will be able to find ways of "seeing" and measuring the soul.

Cool
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February 29, 2016, 02:06:06 PM
Ouch. This stupidity hurts me.

You're wrong of course. Here the word "point" is used with a non mathematical definition. It's an expression to describe a truly tiny part of space. It's like when you say "oh, this ship is really far, it's barely a point on the horizon".

"Point" to you might be only a very tiny spot. But "point" in black hole theory means infinitely tiny, which also means, no size. No size means that it does not exist.

Cool

Oh you're talking about the real black hole theory? Not just your basic description of it?
Well yes it is infinitely tiny and so what? Why wouldn't it make any sense?

No size means it doesn't exist? Funny then tell me what's the size of the soul, of god, of heaven...  Grin

Now that you believe in God, you tell me His size.    Cool

Meh? What? Nah you're telling me it's impossible to have something that has no size but doesn't exist. I say it can. That's all.

Funny thing is you have but two choices:
1/ You accept that something without size can exist, hence Black holes theory might be true.
2/ You refuse something without a size can exist, hence Black holes theory is wrong but God and Souls do not exist as they have no size

Another logical dead end for religion.

What do God and souls have to do with size? And how do you know that they have no size. If you believe such without proof, then you have a religion going for yourself. But, by the very definition of the parts of black holes, the place where all the matter exists is point-size, which means that it has no size whatever. No size means no matter means no black hole.

The scientists and cosmologists and mathematicians are playing with the minds of people just to earn a living off them. And you fell for it.

Cool

If souls have a size why can't you we see them? Same goes for God.

The link between God-souls and size is that if what has no size can't exist, then where are the souls?

Can you see the wind? You can see some of the things that the wind does. But the wind itself is invisible. But you know it is there because you can feel it. What is this nonsense you are talking, that size has something to do with seeing?

Cool

The wind can be measured and weighted. Winds is easy to detect by conventional ways.

Why couldn't we ever measure the soul?
legendary
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February 29, 2016, 01:44:40 PM
Ouch. This stupidity hurts me.

You're wrong of course. Here the word "point" is used with a non mathematical definition. It's an expression to describe a truly tiny part of space. It's like when you say "oh, this ship is really far, it's barely a point on the horizon".

"Point" to you might be only a very tiny spot. But "point" in black hole theory means infinitely tiny, which also means, no size. No size means that it does not exist.

Cool

Oh you're talking about the real black hole theory? Not just your basic description of it?
Well yes it is infinitely tiny and so what? Why wouldn't it make any sense?

No size means it doesn't exist? Funny then tell me what's the size of the soul, of god, of heaven...  Grin

Now that you believe in God, you tell me His size.    Cool

Meh? What? Nah you're telling me it's impossible to have something that has no size but doesn't exist. I say it can. That's all.

Funny thing is you have but two choices:
1/ You accept that something without size can exist, hence Black holes theory might be true.
2/ You refuse something without a size can exist, hence Black holes theory is wrong but God and Souls do not exist as they have no size

Another logical dead end for religion.

What do God and souls have to do with size? And how do you know that they have no size. If you believe such without proof, then you have a religion going for yourself. But, by the very definition of the parts of black holes, the place where all the matter exists is point-size, which means that it has no size whatever. No size means no matter means no black hole.

The scientists and cosmologists and mathematicians are playing with the minds of people just to earn a living off them. And you fell for it.

Cool

If souls have a size why can't you we see them? Same goes for God.

The link between God-souls and size is that if what has no size can't exist, then where are the souls?

Can you see the wind? You can see some of the things that the wind does. But the wind itself is invisible. But you know it is there because you can feel it. What is this nonsense you are talking, that size has something to do with seeing?

Cool
legendary
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February 29, 2016, 10:34:39 AM
Ouch. This stupidity hurts me.

You're wrong of course. Here the word "point" is used with a non mathematical definition. It's an expression to describe a truly tiny part of space. It's like when you say "oh, this ship is really far, it's barely a point on the horizon".

"Point" to you might be only a very tiny spot. But "point" in black hole theory means infinitely tiny, which also means, no size. No size means that it does not exist.

Cool

Oh you're talking about the real black hole theory? Not just your basic description of it?
Well yes it is infinitely tiny and so what? Why wouldn't it make any sense?

No size means it doesn't exist? Funny then tell me what's the size of the soul, of god, of heaven...  Grin

Now that you believe in God, you tell me His size.    Cool

Meh? What? Nah you're telling me it's impossible to have something that has no size but doesn't exist. I say it can. That's all.

Funny thing is you have but two choices:
1/ You accept that something without size can exist, hence Black holes theory might be true.
2/ You refuse something without a size can exist, hence Black holes theory is wrong but God and Souls do not exist as they have no size

Another logical dead end for religion.

What do God and souls have to do with size? And how do you know that they have no size. If you believe such without proof, then you have a religion going for yourself. But, by the very definition of the parts of black holes, the place where all the matter exists is point-size, which means that it has no size whatever. No size means no matter means no black hole.

The scientists and cosmologists and mathematicians are playing with the minds of people just to earn a living off them. And you fell for it.

Cool

If souls have a size why can't you we see them? Same goes for God.

The link between God-souls and size is that if what has no size can't exist, then where are the souls?
legendary
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February 29, 2016, 09:49:09 AM
Ouch. This stupidity hurts me.

You're wrong of course. Here the word "point" is used with a non mathematical definition. It's an expression to describe a truly tiny part of space. It's like when you say "oh, this ship is really far, it's barely a point on the horizon".

"Point" to you might be only a very tiny spot. But "point" in black hole theory means infinitely tiny, which also means, no size. No size means that it does not exist.

Cool

Oh you're talking about the real black hole theory? Not just your basic description of it?
Well yes it is infinitely tiny and so what? Why wouldn't it make any sense?

No size means it doesn't exist? Funny then tell me what's the size of the soul, of god, of heaven...  Grin

Now that you believe in God, you tell me His size.    Cool

Meh? What? Nah you're telling me it's impossible to have something that has no size but doesn't exist. I say it can. That's all.

Funny thing is you have but two choices:
1/ You accept that something without size can exist, hence Black holes theory might be true.
2/ You refuse something without a size can exist, hence Black holes theory is wrong but God and Souls do not exist as they have no size

Another logical dead end for religion.

What do God and souls have to do with size? And how do you know that they have no size. If you believe such without proof, then you have a religion going for yourself. But, by the very definition of the parts of black holes, the place where all the matter exists is point-size, which means that it has no size whatever. No size means no matter means no black hole.

The scientists and cosmologists and mathematicians are playing with the minds of people just to earn a living off them. And you fell for it.

Cool
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February 29, 2016, 09:43:33 AM
Ouch. This stupidity hurts me.

You're wrong of course. Here the word "point" is used with a non mathematical definition. It's an expression to describe a truly tiny part of space. It's like when you say "oh, this ship is really far, it's barely a point on the horizon".

"Point" to you might be only a very tiny spot. But "point" in black hole theory means infinitely tiny, which also means, no size. No size means that it does not exist.

Cool

Oh you're talking about the real black hole theory? Not just your basic description of it?
Well yes it is infinitely tiny and so what? Why wouldn't it make any sense?

No size means it doesn't exist? Funny then tell me what's the size of the soul, of god, of heaven...  Grin

Now that you believe in God, you tell me His size.    Cool

Meh? What? Nah you're telling me it's impossible to have something that has no size but doesn't exist. I say it can. That's all.

Funny thing is you have but two choices:
1/ You accept that something without size can exist, hence Black holes theory might be true.
2/ You refuse something without a size can exist, hence Black holes theory is wrong but God and Souls do not exist as they have no size

Another logical dead end for religion.
legendary
Activity: 3990
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February 29, 2016, 09:34:15 AM
Ouch. This stupidity hurts me.

You're wrong of course. Here the word "point" is used with a non mathematical definition. It's an expression to describe a truly tiny part of space. It's like when you say "oh, this ship is really far, it's barely a point on the horizon".

"Point" to you might be only a very tiny spot. But "point" in black hole theory means infinitely tiny, which also means, no size. No size means that it does not exist.

Cool

Oh you're talking about the real black hole theory? Not just your basic description of it?
Well yes it is infinitely tiny and so what? Why wouldn't it make any sense?

No size means it doesn't exist? Funny then tell me what's the size of the soul, of god, of heaven...  Grin

Now that you believe in God, you tell me His size.    Cool
hero member
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February 29, 2016, 09:25:23 AM
Ouch. This stupidity hurts me.

You're wrong of course. Here the word "point" is used with a non mathematical definition. It's an expression to describe a truly tiny part of space. It's like when you say "oh, this ship is really far, it's barely a point on the horizon".

"Point" to you might be only a very tiny spot. But "point" in black hole theory means infinitely tiny, which also means, no size. No size means that it does not exist.

Cool

Oh you're talking about the real black hole theory? Not just your basic description of it?
Well yes it is infinitely tiny and so what? Why wouldn't it make any sense?

No size means it doesn't exist? Funny then tell me what's the size of the soul, of god, of heaven...  Grin
legendary
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February 29, 2016, 09:07:47 AM
Mathematicians love math. It is their baby. You have to expect that mathematicians want their baby to exist in reality. But, math is all virtual, no matter what anyone says. Math is only a language that mankind uses to relate to the universe in certain ways.

A black hole can't exist according to the math of it. Why not? At the core of a black hole there exists a point that is supposed to contain an extreme amount of material, which causes an extreme amount of gravity. Among the definitions of "point" are:
1. something that has position but not extension, as the intersection of two lines.
2. a place of which the position alone is considered; spot:
3. In geometry, a location having no dimension — no length, height, or width — and identified by at least one coordinate.

Since a point has no dimension, it is nothing. There is no material in nothing. With no material, there can be no gravity. A black hole is a fictional "thing" that is abstractly presented in the minds of mathematicians, but does not exist in reality.

The anomaly in space that we call a black hole is something entirely different than the mathematical black hole of the cosmologists and the mathematicians.

Cool

Ouch. This stupidity hurts me.

You're wrong of course. Here the word "point" is used with a non mathematical definition. It's an expression to describe a truly tiny part of space. It's like when you say "oh, this ship is really far, it's barely a point on the horizon".

"Point" to you might be only a very tiny spot. But "point" in black hole theory means infinitely tiny, which also means, no size. No size means that it does not exist.

Cool
legendary
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February 29, 2016, 09:04:27 AM
Must be something in the water during bronze age.

He created his Son who is him, sent him to Earth to die on the cross so that he can forgive sins of ants.  He had to die himself to forgive sins of some schmucks on 3rd rock from the Sun.  Hey, God,  you could have just forgave the sins.  Why bother with all the theatrical dying on the cross. 

You created the fucking universe, you could not forgive the sins of some insignificant bronze age schmucks?

The guy who first wrote this story was tripping on Meth.


Can't forgive the sins of gods that won't accept forgiveness.    Cool

I got to say I rather agree with af_newbie. Why can't God forgive the people he created for being dumb. He's still responsible for it isn't he?

What is so hard to understand? Look at this example.

A guy borrows $10,000 from the bank. Later he goes to the bank and tells them he can't repay. The bank forgives the debt entirely, and writes it off their records. Still later, the guy comes in with a payment on the loan. The debt has been forgiven entirely, what is the bank supposed to do? Reinstate the loan somehow?

God forgives the debt through Jesus entirely. But the people won't accept it. They don't even want to understand that God exists when they are shown scientific proof. What is God supposed to do? Use force to make the people believe in Him? Use force to make them stop paying on a debt that is too big for them to pay off anyway?

So, you jokers have a little time in this life where forgiveness has sort of been forced on you. How do you know? You are alive, aren't you? But your life and forgiveness in it exist so that God can find out if you want to accept it. If you don't want to accept, well, ultimately just go out and die. What else is there?

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legendary
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February 29, 2016, 08:34:09 AM
Must be something in the water during bronze age.

He created his Son who is him, sent him to Earth to die on the cross so that he can forgive sins of ants.  He had to die himself to forgive sins of some schmucks on 3rd rock from the Sun.  Hey, God,  you could have just forgave the sins.  Why bother with all the theatrical dying on the cross. 

You created the fucking universe, you could not forgive the sins of some insignificant bronze age schmucks?

The guy who first wrote this story was tripping on Meth.


Can't forgive the sins of gods that won't accept forgiveness.    Cool

I got to say I rather agree with af_newbie. Why can't God forgive the people he created for being dumb. He's still responsible for it isn't he?
legendary
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February 29, 2016, 08:00:39 AM
Mathematicians love math. It is their baby. You have to expect that mathematicians want their baby to exist in reality. But, math is all virtual, no matter what anyone says. Math is only a language that mankind uses to relate to the universe in certain ways.

A black hole can't exist according to the math of it. Why not? At the core of a black hole there exists a point that is supposed to contain an extreme amount of material, which causes an extreme amount of gravity. Among the definitions of "point" are:
1. something that has position but not extension, as the intersection of two lines.
2. a place of which the position alone is considered; spot:
3. In geometry, a location having no dimension — no length, height, or width — and identified by at least one coordinate.

Since a point has no dimension, it is nothing. There is no material in nothing. With no material, there can be no gravity. A black hole is a fictional "thing" that is abstractly presented in the minds of mathematicians, but does not exist in reality.

The anomaly in space that we call a black hole is something entirely different than the mathematical black hole of the cosmologists and the mathematicians.

Cool

Ouch. This stupidity hurts me.

You're wrong of course. Here the word "point" is used with a non mathematical definition. It's an expression to describe a truly tiny part of space. It's like when you say "oh, this ship is really far, it's barely a point on the horizon".
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