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legendary
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March 02, 2016, 08:07:48 PM

Now, now. Relax. Your use of expletives shows that you are having trouble understanding even the things that you write.

Did you make that definition up? I see no reference for it.

Tell me what part of the universe or nature exists without thermodynamic energy. Even absolute zero is only theoretical, since nobody has been able to confirm that they have attained it in the lab, or found it in nature.

Look in your definition, above. A "degree of disorder" is a dissolving/dispersing/dissipating/diffusing of thermodynamic energy. Since thermodynamic energy is in everything, entropy is a dissolving/dispersing/dissipating/diffusing of of everything. When you have complexity, if it is dissolved/dispersed/dissipated/diffused, it becomes less complex. This is happening all the time in the universe around us.

The term "randomness" in your definition is misleading. Randomness as we understand it pertains to our guesswork of how tiny quantities of material and/or energy might be working. This is what quantum mechanics is all about. Because we are so limited in our abilities, we can't measure all the forces and energies that act on anything. In the lab, we might think that we have, if that is what we are really trying to do, like with microcalorimetric functions. But even there we can't be sure. This is why quantum mechanics is a probability operation, rather than a reality operation.

True randomness doesn't exist. Everything acts according to the laws of cause and effect as upheld by Newton's 3rd Law. There is no random in the universe outside of our own usage of a virtual random because we are so inadequate in understanding the precision works of the laws of the universe.

What are you going to do now? Are you going to attempt to prove your ignorance more than you have already?

Cool


You still don't provide a definition of complexity, so you haven't answered the question.


You must really know how to use the Bitcointalk spell-checker really well. For somebody who doesn't know how to use the dictionary, your spelling is quite good.

 Grin

organofcorti asked you to provide a definition of complexity.  (how is it related to entropy?)

legendary
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March 02, 2016, 07:41:43 PM

Now, now. Relax. Your use of expletives shows that you are having trouble understanding even the things that you write.

Did you make that definition up? I see no reference for it.

Tell me what part of the universe or nature exists without thermodynamic energy. Even absolute zero is only theoretical, since nobody has been able to confirm that they have attained it in the lab, or found it in nature.

Look in your definition, above. A "degree of disorder" is a dissolving/dispersing/dissipating/diffusing of thermodynamic energy. Since thermodynamic energy is in everything, entropy is a dissolving/dispersing/dissipating/diffusing of of everything. When you have complexity, if it is dissolved/dispersed/dissipated/diffused, it becomes less complex. This is happening all the time in the universe around us.

The term "randomness" in your definition is misleading. Randomness as we understand it pertains to our guesswork of how tiny quantities of material and/or energy might be working. This is what quantum mechanics is all about. Because we are so limited in our abilities, we can't measure all the forces and energies that act on anything. In the lab, we might think that we have, if that is what we are really trying to do, like with microcalorimetric functions. But even there we can't be sure. This is why quantum mechanics is a probability operation, rather than a reality operation.

True randomness doesn't exist. Everything acts according to the laws of cause and effect as upheld by Newton's 3rd Law. There is no random in the universe outside of our own usage of a virtual random because we are so inadequate in understanding the precision works of the laws of the universe.

What are you going to do now? Are you going to attempt to prove your ignorance more than you have already?

Cool


You still don't provide a definition of complexity, so you haven't answered the question.


You must really know how to use the Bitcointalk spell-checker really well. For somebody who doesn't know how to use the dictionary, your spelling is quite good.

 Grin
donator
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March 02, 2016, 04:35:34 PM
Does anyone else find it ironic that BADecker will (re)define every word from Atheist to Theory, but refuses to define his "proof that God exists" even once?

Or "complexity".


But it is very obvious that atheists will avoid looking at and using the dictionary definitions, and the scientific laws that prove that God exists. They would rather tell lies about theists to promote their stupidity. In fact, they can't even see that by promoting atheism they are setting themselves up as gods, claiming that they have God-like authority to make accurate atheistic claims.

Cool

We would love to do that, but you simply refuse the definition!

entropy: A thermodynamic quantity representing the unavailability of a system’s thermal energy for conversion into mechanical work, often interpreted as the degree of disorder or randomness in the system

Which means there is NO LINK with complexity! Only with order or randomness. But you don't give a fuck about this official definition...

Now, now. Relax. Your use of expletives shows that you are having trouble understanding even the things that you write.

Did you make that definition up? I see no reference for it.

Tell me what part of the universe or nature exists without thermodynamic energy. Even absolute zero is only theoretical, since nobody has been able to confirm that they have attained it in the lab, or found it in nature.

Look in your definition, above. A "degree of disorder" is a dissolving/dispersing/dissipating/diffusing of thermodynamic energy. Since thermodynamic energy is in everything, entropy is a dissolving/dispersing/dissipating/diffusing of of everything. When you have complexity, if it is dissolved/dispersed/dissipated/diffused, it becomes less complex. This is happening all the time in the universe around us.

The term "randomness" in your definition is misleading. Randomness as we understand it pertains to our guesswork of how tiny quantities of material and/or energy might be working. This is what quantum mechanics is all about. Because we are so limited in our abilities, we can't measure all the forces and energies that act on anything. In the lab, we might think that we have, if that is what we are really trying to do, like with microcalorimetric functions. But even there we can't be sure. This is why quantum mechanics is a probability operation, rather than a reality operation.

True randomness doesn't exist. Everything acts according to the laws of cause and effect as upheld by Newton's 3rd Law. There is no random in the universe outside of our own usage of a virtual random because we are so inadequate in understanding the precision works of the laws of the universe.

What are you going to do now? Are you going to attempt to prove your ignorance more than you have already?

Cool


You still don't provide a definition of complexity, so you haven't answered the question.
legendary
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March 02, 2016, 03:07:10 PM
Does anyone else find it ironic that BADecker will (re)define every word from Atheist to Theory, but refuses to define his "proof that God exists" even once?

Or "complexity".


But it is very obvious that atheists will avoid looking at and using the dictionary definitions, and the scientific laws that prove that God exists. They would rather tell lies about theists to promote their stupidity. In fact, they can't even see that by promoting atheism they are setting themselves up as gods, claiming that they have God-like authority to make accurate atheistic claims.

Cool

We would love to do that, but you simply refuse the definition!

entropy: A thermodynamic quantity representing the unavailability of a system’s thermal energy for conversion into mechanical work, often interpreted as the degree of disorder or randomness in the system

Which means there is NO LINK with complexity! Only with order or randomness. But you don't give a fuck about this official definition...

Now, now. Relax. Your use of expletives shows that you are having trouble understanding even the things that you write.

Did you make that definition up? I see no reference for it.

Tell me what part of the universe or nature exists without thermodynamic energy. Even absolute zero is only theoretical, since nobody has been able to confirm that they have attained it in the lab, or found it in nature.

Look in your definition, above. A "degree of disorder" is a dissolving/dispersing/dissipating/diffusing of thermodynamic energy. Since thermodynamic energy is in everything, entropy is a dissolving/dispersing/dissipating/diffusing of of everything. When you have complexity, if it is dissolved/dispersed/dissipated/diffused, it becomes less complex. This is happening all the time in the universe around us.

The term "randomness" in your definition is misleading. Randomness as we understand it pertains to our guesswork of how tiny quantities of material and/or energy might be working. This is what quantum mechanics is all about. Because we are so limited in our abilities, we can't measure all the forces and energies that act on anything. In the lab, we might think that we have, if that is what we are really trying to do, like with microcalorimetric functions. But even there we can't be sure. This is why quantum mechanics is a probability operation, rather than a reality operation.

True randomness doesn't exist. Everything acts according to the laws of cause and effect as upheld by Newton's 3rd Law. There is no random in the universe outside of our own usage of a virtual random because we are so inadequate in understanding the precision works of the laws of the universe.

What are you going to do now? Are you going to attempt to prove your ignorance more than you have already?

Cool
legendary
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March 02, 2016, 02:30:57 PM
Does anyone else find it ironic that BADecker will (re)define every word from Atheist to Theory, but refuses to define his "proof that God exists" even once?

Or "complexity".


But it is very obvious that atheists will avoid looking at and using the dictionary definitions, and the scientific laws that prove that God exists. They would rather tell lies about theists to promote their stupidity. In fact, they can't even see that by promoting atheism they are setting themselves up as gods, claiming that they have God-like authority to make accurate atheistic claims.

Cool

We would love to do that, but you simply refuse the definition!

entropy: A thermodynamic quantity representing the unavailability of a system’s thermal energy for conversion into mechanical work, often interpreted as the degree of disorder or randomness in the system

Which means there is NO LINK with complexity! Only with order or randomness. But you don't give a fuck about this official definition...

He cannot define it because it is not in the Bible.

BSDecker, you should just concentrate on the Bible and forget all the science stuff. 

Science is confusing the issues for you.  If you just stay focused on the Bible, you will be able to live your life like Jesus.  You know, broken sandals, rags for clothes, beard and long hair, no money etc.  Spend weeks in the desert, get together with your other hippy, gay friends, maybe smoke a joint or poke each other.  Get high and go to heaven and back.

Why do you need to prove that God exist?  You (and more than 2 billion people like you) believe it without any scientific proof, why bother if it is true or not, you have shown us that you don't care if it is true.
You'll believe it no matter what.

Praise the Lord and pass the bullets!!! Wink




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March 02, 2016, 01:46:38 PM
Does anyone else find it ironic that BADecker will (re)define every word from Atheist to Theory, but refuses to define his "proof that God exists" even once?

Or "complexity".


But it is very obvious that atheists will avoid looking at and using the dictionary definitions, and the scientific laws that prove that God exists. They would rather tell lies about theists to promote their stupidity. In fact, they can't even see that by promoting atheism they are setting themselves up as gods, claiming that they have God-like authority to make accurate atheistic claims.

Cool

We would love to do that, but you simply refuse the definition!

entropy: A thermodynamic quantity representing the unavailability of a system’s thermal energy for conversion into mechanical work, often interpreted as the degree of disorder or randomness in the system

Which means there is NO LINK with complexity! Only with order or randomness. But you don't give a fuck about this official definition...
legendary
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March 02, 2016, 12:21:24 PM
Does anyone else find it ironic that BADecker will (re)define every word from Atheist to Theory, but refuses to define his "proof that God exists" even once?

Or "complexity".


But it is very obvious that atheists will avoid looking at and using the dictionary definitions, and the scientific laws that prove that God exists. They would rather tell lies about theists to promote their stupidity. In fact, they can't even see that by promoting atheism they are setting themselves up as gods, claiming that they have God-like authority to make accurate atheistic claims.

Cool
donator
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March 02, 2016, 04:45:04 AM
Does anyone else find it ironic that BADecker will (re)define every word from Atheist to Theory, but refuses to define his "proof that God exists" even once?

Or "complexity".
hero member
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March 02, 2016, 03:04:12 AM
Does anyone else find it ironic that BADecker will (re)define every word from Atheist to Theory, but refuses to define his "proof that God exists" even once?
legendary
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March 02, 2016, 02:42:41 AM

One might be able to measure air. And one might be able to see the effects of wind. But one can barely measure the wind at all... a little in its average speed or temperature in an area.

It is the same with God. Since the combined scientific laws of cause and effect, complex universe, and universal entropy, have proven that God exists, all one need do to detect and measure aspects of God is to detect and measure aspects of the universe.

Perhaps when people can finally think out the math of more that 6 dimensions clearly, they will be able to find ways of "seeing" and measuring the soul.

Cool

You keep telling shit about your freaking "laws" without ever giving out a correct definition for entropy...

Where do I tell anybody about my laws? If I do, I barely do.

Entropy, complex universe, and cause and effect are standard science laws. If you knew how to use the Internet, you would have been able to look these laws up yourself. What, does your mommy do your typing for you?

Cool

Stop the bullshit. You keep talking about entropy as the proof that complexity can only decrease. Which is not the case!

You make 2 enormous mistakes in your reasonning at least:
1/ You don't define complexity neither entropy with precise word which means your reasoning is pointless
2/ you use physics laws with incomplete understanding of the notions implied.

Keep on with the BS. This will continually prove how retarded you are, by the things that you say.

1. You don't look up enough of the standard definitions of entropy so that you even know what entropy is.
2. You don't even look at physics law so that you can understand their implications.

Cool

I think most of the BS is coming from your corner.

Anybody who is against the laws of science might think like you do. Since most of the theoretical scientists are against the laws of science - that's why they are theorists, to see if they can't somehow break the science laws we already have - you have lots of scientific company.

Cool
legendary
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March 01, 2016, 03:18:58 PM

One might be able to measure air. And one might be able to see the effects of wind. But one can barely measure the wind at all... a little in its average speed or temperature in an area.

It is the same with God. Since the combined scientific laws of cause and effect, complex universe, and universal entropy, have proven that God exists, all one need do to detect and measure aspects of God is to detect and measure aspects of the universe.

Perhaps when people can finally think out the math of more that 6 dimensions clearly, they will be able to find ways of "seeing" and measuring the soul.

Cool

You keep telling shit about your freaking "laws" without ever giving out a correct definition for entropy...

Where do I tell anybody about my laws? If I do, I barely do.

Entropy, complex universe, and cause and effect are standard science laws. If you knew how to use the Internet, you would have been able to look these laws up yourself. What, does your mommy do your typing for you?

Cool

Stop the bullshit. You keep talking about entropy as the proof that complexity can only decrease. Which is not the case!

You make 2 enormous mistakes in your reasonning at least:
1/ You don't define complexity neither entropy with precise word which means your reasoning is pointless
2/ you use physics laws with incomplete understanding of the notions implied.

Keep on with the BS. This will continually prove how retarded you are, by the things that you say.

1. You don't look up enough of the standard definitions of entropy so that you even know what entropy is.
2. You don't even look at physics law so that you can understand their implications.

Cool

I think most of the BS is coming from your corner.


legendary
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March 01, 2016, 02:31:01 PM

One might be able to measure air. And one might be able to see the effects of wind. But one can barely measure the wind at all... a little in its average speed or temperature in an area.

It is the same with God. Since the combined scientific laws of cause and effect, complex universe, and universal entropy, have proven that God exists, all one need do to detect and measure aspects of God is to detect and measure aspects of the universe.

Perhaps when people can finally think out the math of more that 6 dimensions clearly, they will be able to find ways of "seeing" and measuring the soul.

Cool

You keep telling shit about your freaking "laws" without ever giving out a correct definition for entropy...

Where do I tell anybody about my laws? If I do, I barely do.

Entropy, complex universe, and cause and effect are standard science laws. If you knew how to use the Internet, you would have been able to look these laws up yourself. What, does your mommy do your typing for you?

Cool

Stop the bullshit. You keep talking about entropy as the proof that complexity can only decrease. Which is not the case!

You make 2 enormous mistakes in your reasonning at least:
1/ You don't define complexity neither entropy with precise word which means your reasoning is pointless
2/ you use physics laws with incomplete understanding of the notions implied.

Keep on with the BS. This will continually prove how retarded you are, by the things that you say.

1. You don't look up enough of the standard definitions of entropy so that you even know what entropy is.
2. You don't even look at physics law so that you can understand their implications.

Cool
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March 01, 2016, 02:25:53 PM

It is God who gave man music and instruments in first place to worship him.




You say this thing, but I don't hear any proof. Can you prove this assertion?

Is this loud and clear enough?  But I can not guarantee that it will be proof for YOU. It will all depend on condition of your heart.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAwuSsPdH6I&list=RDwkScq3OveAw&index=19

not enough, want more  Grin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKDn1VWumeA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwaA7yQog2M
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March 01, 2016, 02:06:00 PM
I can't believe how many non literal people taking place in this topic.
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March 01, 2016, 02:04:40 PM

GOD is REALITY and you are living in a dreamworld. Wake up please.  I'm living proof of that. I can tell you no less.

It is your responsibility to meet Him.  I can not do that for you.

You have, let's say 80 years, long enough  Wink
legendary
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March 01, 2016, 01:57:12 PM

It is God who gave man music and instruments in first place to worship him. All music therefore originates from God. it is not man invention by the way.

Moloch destiny is fire and brimstone. So don't follow a looser, it is not profitable at all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7EZONzP4iE

So God created man to worship Him? How much praise does one need?

That part never made any sense to me...

If I was a God, I might be interested in companionship... ya know, another dude to tell my stories... but worship?  from a bunch of ants?  why?

Must be something in the water during bronze age.

He created his Son who is him, sent him to Earth to die on the cross so that he can forgive sins of ants.  He had to die himself to forgive sins of some schmucks on 3rd rock from the Sun.  Hey, God,  you could have just forgave the sins.  Why bother with all the theatrical dying on the cross.  

You created the fucking universe, you could not forgive the sins of some insignificant bronze age schmucks?

The guy who first wrote this story was tripping on Meth.


You'd think God would be smart enough to send Jesus during the 20th century... so we could record that shit on video...

I'd seriously consider any physical evidence for Jesus being historical... even a sandal with Jesus' name written on it from the year 20 CE... maybe a chair or table?  Wasn't Jesus a carpenter?  What did he make?  Why is there zero evidence that Jesus ever existed?

It was on purpose. Because you don't need proof. You need Faith. Proof would destroy Faith. Which is a big NO NO.

What's the difference between faith and delusion?

cause and effect.  But check with BSDecker, he is a guru on causes and effects.


Here I present you three basic definitions of FAITH  which does NOT EQUAL delusion. Definition of delusion you can hear here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktwzyUa-g1w

First:     Faith is believing in a world of someone else.
Second: Faith is a substance, a portal to enter the matrix of GOD.
Third:    Faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.

Do you atheists also lack a proper reading?


Believing in something that is not real is a delusion.
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March 01, 2016, 01:54:53 PM
So I see 2 threads of why islam hates people or why people hate Islam. I dont see the point of such a mundane debate based on religion any debate for or against religion would be stupid. Either you are stupid to believe what a prophet / god / divine entity said or you are stupid enough to believe you can change the minds of the bleak minded people who follow such a prophet / god / divine entity.

But since its fun let me initiate my own brand of 'why do' topic.

WHY DO ATHEISTS (like me) HATE RELIGION ?

Seriously what has to happen in a person's life for them to seriously give up hope on the one true everlasting brand (of religion) which their ancestors have followed for generations.

Everyone has their own story even I have mine, so lets hear some of it.



i never meet atheis people,and if i meet them,i will ask this question too. but in my view,atheis hate religion because they not believe anything that not real,they dont believe any god of any religion,all religion on this world is not make sense among them,its just my opinion.

Never met atheists people?
Damn it's hard to believe such kind of country or city still exist...

Two main reasons to hate religion:
1/ Responsible for the worst plagues of humanity. Millions of deaths, terrorism, stealing money from everyone, slavery, sickness etc...
2/ Responsible for the darkest age of mankind, because of religion Science lost 1500 years while not even doing nothing but also losing centuries of knowledge.
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March 01, 2016, 01:50:17 PM

One might be able to measure air. And one might be able to see the effects of wind. But one can barely measure the wind at all... a little in its average speed or temperature in an area.

It is the same with God. Since the combined scientific laws of cause and effect, complex universe, and universal entropy, have proven that God exists, all one need do to detect and measure aspects of God is to detect and measure aspects of the universe.

Perhaps when people can finally think out the math of more that 6 dimensions clearly, they will be able to find ways of "seeing" and measuring the soul.

Cool

You keep telling shit about your freaking "laws" without ever giving out a correct definition for entropy...

Where do I tell anybody about my laws? If I do, I barely do.

Entropy, complex universe, and cause and effect are standard science laws. If you knew how to use the Internet, you would have been able to look these laws up yourself. What, does your mommy do your typing for you?

Cool

Stop the bullshit. You keep talking about entropy as the proof that complexity can only decrease. Which is not the case!

You make 2 enormous mistakes in your reasonning at least:
1/ You don't define complexity neither entropy with precise word which means your reasoning is pointless
2/ you use physics laws with incomplete understanding of the notions implied.
hero member
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March 01, 2016, 01:41:35 PM

It is God who gave man music and instruments in first place to worship him. All music therefore originates from God. it is not man invention by the way.

Moloch destiny is fire and brimstone. So don't follow a looser, it is not profitable at all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7EZONzP4iE

So God created man to worship Him? How much praise does one need?

That part never made any sense to me...

If I was a God, I might be interested in companionship... ya know, another dude to tell my stories... but worship?  from a bunch of ants?  why?

Must be something in the water during bronze age.

He created his Son who is him, sent him to Earth to die on the cross so that he can forgive sins of ants.  He had to die himself to forgive sins of some schmucks on 3rd rock from the Sun.  Hey, God,  you could have just forgave the sins.  Why bother with all the theatrical dying on the cross.  

You created the fucking universe, you could not forgive the sins of some insignificant bronze age schmucks?

The guy who first wrote this story was tripping on Meth.


You'd think God would be smart enough to send Jesus during the 20th century... so we could record that shit on video...

I'd seriously consider any physical evidence for Jesus being historical... even a sandal with Jesus' name written on it from the year 20 CE... maybe a chair or table?  Wasn't Jesus a carpenter?  What did he make?  Why is there zero evidence that Jesus ever existed?

It was on purpose. Because you don't need proof. You need Faith. Proof would destroy Faith. Which is a big NO NO.

What's the difference between faith and delusion?

cause and effect.  But check with BSDecker, he is a guru on causes and effects.


Here I present you three basic definitions of FAITH  which does NOT EQUAL delusion. Definition of delusion you can hear here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktwzyUa-g1w

First:     Faith is believing in a world of someone else.
Second: Faith is a substance, a portal to enter the matrix of GOD.
Third:    Faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.

Do you atheists also lack a proper reading?
legendary
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March 01, 2016, 10:35:41 AM

One might be able to measure air. And one might be able to see the effects of wind. But one can barely measure the wind at all... a little in its average speed or temperature in an area.

It is the same with God. Since the combined scientific laws of cause and effect, complex universe, and universal entropy, have proven that God exists, all one need do to detect and measure aspects of God is to detect and measure aspects of the universe.

Perhaps when people can finally think out the math of more that 6 dimensions clearly, they will be able to find ways of "seeing" and measuring the soul.

Cool

You keep telling shit about your freaking "laws" without ever giving out a correct definition for entropy...

Where do I tell anybody about my laws? If I do, I barely do.

Entropy, complex universe, and cause and effect are standard science laws. If you knew how to use the Internet, you would have been able to look these laws up yourself. What, does your mommy do your typing for you?

Cool

"complex universe" is not a law. If you think it is, please link to a peer reviewed paper which asserts that there is a law called the "complex universe law".

"Complex universe" is such a foundational law, readily seen and understood by everyone, that it does not need stating as a scientific law, except to atheists, who contradict themselves by stating that God does not exist.

Cool

So it's not an actual law that someone would find in a dictionary, encyclopaedia or wiki? Just something you made up.

Son, I am disappoint.

LOL!

You can go to any doctor, any researcher, any Nobel Prize winner, any politician, and anybody who thinks about it a little, including the smartest people on earth to the dumbest (excluding you of course), and if they have thought about it, they will tell you that the earth and universe are complex. If they haven't thought about it, they will tell you that they haven't thought about it and don't know.

Of course, there are folks like you who understand the obvious, but would rather lie about it than express the truth >>> God exists, in the greatest ways ever.

Until you wake up to the fact of God's existence, you are always going to be disappointed.

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