Topic: Why do Atheists Hate Religion? - page 197. (Read 901343 times)

Seems like BADecker isn't aware of it xD

No.  It doesn't.

Does it have to be mentioned again that there is no measurable evidence for religion/God?

Actually, Maths and art have some correlation.
But science and religions? Damn there is no link at all ^^

He is indeed horrible.

The bible says that you have the DUTY to kill a baby born from adultery... Is there any much to say more?

Probably my most productive 15 minutes in science class was the one time when the teacher (the good one I mentioned) talked about religion.  He was probably among the top 10 science teachers in the state I would guess so the example is perhaps a little bit skewed.

On the first day, he described why he was not going to be talking about religion or the bible.  In order to do this, he started out be describing the basic fundamentals of hypothesis generation and testing so that he could describe the incompatibility and thus the reason for his stance.  He stressed that this did not mean that there was anything wrong about the bible or religion, just that it was not compatible with the philosophy of the scientific method in his opinion and in his training.

One other time this teacher mentioned the bible, or at least the age of the earth.  This was in the context of a discussion of carbon-14 decay rates.  He mentioned that it _could_ be that the decay rate had changed, then the theory of carbon dating could be wrong.  I only remember this (35 years later) because if the insert associated with biblical concepts.  So, I don't see why it is necessarily bad to have religion and science co-mingled to some extent.  Fact is, these things are co-mingled in real life in our society so it seems fine to me if kids get used to it.

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As for teaching 'Arts in Math', I only remember the 'golden rectangle' at all because of the cross-pollination that some teacher somewhere introduced between the two subjects.  I don't remember the details, but I could easily look them up...and only because someone had 'incorrectly' taught one or the other of the subjects.

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I am kind of embarrassed for 'my group' (atheists with a scientific bent) that they seem so threatened and butt-hurt by religion.  It is absolutely the case that people should not be discriminated against for their basic beliefs, but that cuts both ways and I see 'my side' as being more of the guilty party at this point in time.  I personally am not threatened by religion, but I'll throw in the caveat that I did not feel this confidence until relatively recently, and also that I've got my eye on religious intolerance from the devout side due to the long and sordid history of said.

Bing-fuckin-go!  Those people are exactly the ones who have got control of the education system now under common core.

The basic simple concept of science involves hypothesis generation and testing.  It is quite a powerful tool for understanding many things and as such is completely banished as best I can tell.  At least I have yet to meet almost anyone who can describe this simple process to me.  This is a close mirror to debt-based money.  The basic concept is extremely simple ("so simple the mind is repelled") yet almost nobody outside of the boardrooms of financial institutions understands it.  Even people interested enough in money to have  signed up on this Bitcoin related board rarely seem to understand it!  I don't think this is an accident.

When I looked at the first (admittedly cherry-picked) example of common core math, I saw immediately what they were doing.  That is, training people at an early age to believe that mathematics becomes nearly impossible (e.g., exponentially challenging) with large numbers.  I was totally unsurprised to hear of children literally crying when trying to do their homework.  Most of these kids will become adults who will 'outsource' ALL mathematics to 'scientists' and will not even attempt the most basic sanity checking themselves.

I find biblical teaching to be completely non-threatening because much of it in the realm of science is so absurd that it can be easily discarded.  There are many qualified scientists who are religious at some level.  It is fairly easy to reconcile the nonsense with the tools needed to be a scientist, engineer, etc.  This contrasts with the carefully designed programming were a translucent veneer of 'science' and 'math' induces the masses to accept psuedo-science as science and never be the wiser.  I think that this is exactly the design goal of our modern educational system.

Haven't found "BADecker" written in there even once.   

You don't seem to understand that the only atheists that benefit by early death is the adamant ones. Nobody knows who these atheists are. Since nobody knows, because many atheists have more or less spontaneously converted to Christianity over the years, killing atheists is exactly the opposite of what Christians are attempting to do. Christians are attempting to bring atheists out of life into eternal life. And that can't be done by killing off atheists while they are still in their atheism.

However, it would benefit any atheist who had locked himself into atheism if he died you, so that he would have fewer sins to be punished for in Hell throughout eternity.

You really are dense sometimes... and especially for a guy who has had all that religion training.

So you are killing unbelivers, babies and gays like the Bible tells you?  It was written by Jesus you know...

Why follow the Bible when I am obeying it?   

Don't you realize that it is usually less than 100 years until Jesus returns for people - one way or the other? The next thing they will see after the close their eyes in death, is Jesus calling them out of the grave. He is almost here for you.

You know it is good to have a skeptical mindset.  I teach my kid this.  Don't trust what your teachers tell you.  Don't trust what I tell you.  Figure things out by yourself.  If you have questions, I'm here to help, but you have to do your own research.

The problem we have now is that some people are trying to reverse scientific progress by bringing up a bronze age science and philosophy to school.  It would be ok if they taught it for what it is.  But Bible is presented as a word of God, not to be questioned.  That is the problem.  In science, everything needs to be questioned.   That is how science works.

There is no room for Bible in the science classroom because it cannot be questioned and exposed for what it really is.

I hope you realize that encouraging murder and suicide are bad things... and that I have been reporting such posts to the moderators


Well done. Here are the test results:
You are a horrible person.

I'm serious, that's what it says: "A horrible person."
We weren't even testing for that.

Don't let that horrible-person thing discourage you.
It's just a data point.
If it makes you feel any better, science has now validated your birth mother's decision to abandon you on a doorstep.

So you are not following the Bible then, the Bible written by Jesus.

So yeah... about that... How long until Jesus returns again?

Do you realize Christians have been saying he will return any day now... for 2000 years?... still waiting...

They always refer to Revelation... about the increase in wars and such... and they have been pointing to war after war for 2000 years... so which war is the bible referring to, and when?

No, and I don't care very much.  Same with the countless other religious texts.  I was a science buff when I was a kid, and (until I went to a school which had a top notch science teacher) I learned almost everything I knew about science on my own.  If my science teacher taught me that 'it's turtles all the way down', it would have been beneficial since I would have learned skepticism at a more opportune time.

Some say that it is unfair that some kids get a leg up by having a good teacher.  I'm not convinced of this, and even if it is true, so what?  I mean, most kids are not destined to become scientists, and many eminent scientists cropped up at times and places where education and society was decidedly non-secular.

Just be glad that God gives you more time to change and be saved. Many of us would like righteousness and perfection, and that is what God is making, especially when he lets adamant atheists die.

BADecker thinks God was having a bad day when he wrote the Old Testament... and that God didn't actually mean those things about killing non-believers, disobedient children, homosexuals, witches, anyone who cuts his sideburns, etc...

I bet she thinks God doesn't kill anyone in the bible either... lol

Kill the unbelievers like the Bible says.  What else?  He has to do what his father (or he himself) wrote in the fucking book, otherwise he would be a hypocrite.  And we cannot have a hypocritical God, can we?