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February 19, 2016, 11:27:50 AM
The only reason atheists hate religion is, all religious people hate people of other religions, momentarily, once in awhile.

The only reason that atheists hate Christians is, atheists know that they are wrong, and that Christians are right, and nobody likes being told that he is wrong, especially when he is, like atheists are.

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February 19, 2016, 07:47:00 AM
Seems like they never came back to explain why radioactivity isn't correct... xD
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February 18, 2016, 10:11:59 PM
If anyone really wants to know why Atheists hate religion, watch this 5 minute video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXFY29ZRHB8
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February 18, 2016, 09:12:05 PM
Back when I considered myself a Christian (I was 12), I asked my pastor about the dating... he actually had a decent argument (as far as Christian apologetics goes)

Quote from: 2 Peter 3:8
But do not let this one fact escape your notice, beloved, that with the Lord one day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years like one day
(this was how he justified dinosaurs... thousands of years between day 2 and day 3 of creation story gives time for dinosaurs before man was created)

Realistically, that still doesn't add up... even if the 6 days were 6000 years... that is still a far cry from 13.8 billion...

Moloch was a Christian? Damn I wouldn't have say that Grin

Well it's rather a good explanation if you forget the "a thousand" part. The text litteraly says "well we don't know anything about the date and we don't give a fuck you know" ^^

You would be surprised at how many outspoken Atheists were indoctrinated as children...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aron_Ra rejected the indoctrination around the same age as I did, 12-14
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matt_Dillahunty rejected the indoctrination much later in life... he was actually studying to be a preacher when he lost the faith

Here is a video of him talking about it:
Conversion: Baptist To Atheist - Matt Dillahunty Part 1/3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZUpMuRg9wQ


There is even a website devoted to Christian preachers who lost the faith, and don't know what to do...
http://clergyproject.org/
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February 18, 2016, 02:44:35 PM


Back when I considered myself a Christian (I was 12), I asked my pastor about the dating... he actually had a decent argument (as far as Christian apologetics goes)

Quote from: 2 Peter 3:8
But do not let this one fact escape your notice, beloved, that with the Lord one day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years like one day
(this was how he justified dinosaurs... thousands of years between day 2 and day 3 of creation story gives time for dinosaurs before man was created)

Realistically, that still doesn't add up... even if the 6 days were 6000 years... that is still a far cry from 13.8 billion...

Moloch was a Christian? Damn I wouldn't have say that Grin

Well it's rather a good explanation if you forget the "a thousand" part. The text litteraly says "well we don't know anything about the date and we don't give a fuck you know" ^^
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February 18, 2016, 01:47:05 PM
The oldest near factual distance we can go back is barely 5,000 years. Carbon dating has proven itself unreliable. Sumer dating through the "pottery" method suggests an age possibly as far back as 5,000 years. And even that is not a certainty. We can tell that the earth is older than that, but we can't tell haw old beyond that. We absolutely have a lot of guesses, however. Since they are guesses, people who believe them as fact have a religion going for themselves.

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Carbon dating is absolutely not unreliable whatever you say. And not only that but carbon dating is not the only method we use to date old things. It's plain stupidity to think that the world is 5k years old.

The fact that carbon dating is unreliable isn't my idea by any means. Google it.

Even tree ring and ice core samplings are judgmental in the ways they are used to date things.

We might be able to go back a little past 4,500 years or so, but beyond that, it becomes very unclear - dating pottery and written-on-clay fragments.

Lingual and genetic changes seem to trace back only to about 5,000 years. Beyond that even these kinds of datings become foggy.

What else is there other than guesswork?

Cool

FOGGY? WTF???

Carbon dating is EXTREMELY RELIABLE! Yeah go and Google it! Seems you need to:
"The reliability of the results can be improved by lengthening the testing time. For example, if counting beta decays for 250 minutes is enough to give an error of ± 80 years, with 68% confidence."

It means you have 70% to have the right date with 80 years error. So if you do it 10 times in a row, you have A FUCKING GOOD RELIABILITY!!!

And again carbon 14 datation is not at all the only one used by scientists! Do you even know how it works?

and bronze age dating is crystal clear. 13.8 billion is just 6 days and 4.5 billion is 6000 years.  Give it take few years  Roll Eyes


Nothing wrong with the math here. Seems clear to me. Cheesy

Back when I considered myself a Christian (I was 12), I asked my pastor about the dating... he actually had a decent argument (as far as Christian apologetics goes)

Quote from: 2 Peter 3:8
But do not let this one fact escape your notice, beloved, that with the Lord one day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years like one day
(this was how he justified dinosaurs... thousands of years between day 2 and day 3 of creation story gives time for dinosaurs before man was created)

Realistically, that still doesn't add up... even if the 6 days were 6000 years... that is still a far cry from 13.8 billion...
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February 18, 2016, 01:36:58 PM
What I don't understand is that denying carbon 14 datation means denying our knowledge about radiation and radioactivity... But they can't do that Grin
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February 18, 2016, 11:21:39 AM
The oldest near factual distance we can go back is barely 5,000 years. Carbon dating has proven itself unreliable. Sumer dating through the "pottery" method suggests an age possibly as far back as 5,000 years. And even that is not a certainty. We can tell that the earth is older than that, but we can't tell haw old beyond that. We absolutely have a lot of guesses, however. Since they are guesses, people who believe them as fact have a religion going for themselves.

Cool
Carbon dating is absolutely not unreliable whatever you say. And not only that but carbon dating is not the only method we use to date old things. It's plain stupidity to think that the world is 5k years old.

The fact that carbon dating is unreliable isn't my idea by any means. Google it.

Even tree ring and ice core samplings are judgmental in the ways they are used to date things.

We might be able to go back a little past 4,500 years or so, but beyond that, it becomes very unclear - dating pottery and written-on-clay fragments.

Lingual and genetic changes seem to trace back only to about 5,000 years. Beyond that even these kinds of datings become foggy.

What else is there other than guesswork?

Cool

FOGGY? WTF???

Carbon dating is EXTREMELY RELIABLE! Yeah go and Google it! Seems you need to:
"The reliability of the results can be improved by lengthening the testing time. For example, if counting beta decays for 250 minutes is enough to give an error of ± 80 years, with 68% confidence."

It means you have 70% to have the right date with 80 years error. So if you do it 10 times in a row, you have A FUCKING GOOD RELIABILITY!!!

And again carbon 14 datation is not at all the only one used by scientists! Do you even know how it works?

and bronze age dating is crystal clear. 13.8 billion is just 6 days and 4.5 billion is 6000 years.  Give it take few years  Roll Eyes


Nothing wrong with the math here. Seems clear to me. Cheesy

Lord works in mysterious ways (on your brain).
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February 18, 2016, 11:08:40 AM
The oldest near factual distance we can go back is barely 5,000 years. Carbon dating has proven itself unreliable. Sumer dating through the "pottery" method suggests an age possibly as far back as 5,000 years. And even that is not a certainty. We can tell that the earth is older than that, but we can't tell haw old beyond that. We absolutely have a lot of guesses, however. Since they are guesses, people who believe them as fact have a religion going for themselves.

Cool
Carbon dating is absolutely not unreliable whatever you say. And not only that but carbon dating is not the only method we use to date old things. It's plain stupidity to think that the world is 5k years old.

The fact that carbon dating is unreliable isn't my idea by any means. Google it.

Even tree ring and ice core samplings are judgmental in the ways they are used to date things.

We might be able to go back a little past 4,500 years or so, but beyond that, it becomes very unclear - dating pottery and written-on-clay fragments.

Lingual and genetic changes seem to trace back only to about 5,000 years. Beyond that even these kinds of datings become foggy.

What else is there other than guesswork?

Cool

FOGGY? WTF???

Carbon dating is EXTREMELY RELIABLE! Yeah go and Google it! Seems you need to:
"The reliability of the results can be improved by lengthening the testing time. For example, if counting beta decays for 250 minutes is enough to give an error of ± 80 years, with 68% confidence."

It means you have 70% to have the right date with 80 years error. So if you do it 10 times in a row, you have A FUCKING GOOD RELIABILITY!!!

And again carbon 14 datation is not at all the only one used by scientists! Do you even know how it works?

and bronze age dating is crystal clear. 13.8 billion is just 6 days and 4.5 billion is 6000 years.  Give it take few years  Roll Eyes


Nothing wrong with the math here. Seems clear to me. Cheesy
legendary
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February 18, 2016, 11:06:48 AM
The oldest near factual distance we can go back is barely 5,000 years. Carbon dating has proven itself unreliable. Sumer dating through the "pottery" method suggests an age possibly as far back as 5,000 years. And even that is not a certainty. We can tell that the earth is older than that, but we can't tell haw old beyond that. We absolutely have a lot of guesses, however. Since they are guesses, people who believe them as fact have a religion going for themselves.

Cool
Carbon dating is absolutely not unreliable whatever you say. And not only that but carbon dating is not the only method we use to date old things. It's plain stupidity to think that the world is 5k years old.

The fact that carbon dating is unreliable isn't my idea by any means. Google it.

Even tree ring and ice core samplings are judgmental in the ways they are used to date things.

We might be able to go back a little past 4,500 years or so, but beyond that, it becomes very unclear - dating pottery and written-on-clay fragments.

Lingual and genetic changes seem to trace back only to about 5,000 years. Beyond that even these kinds of datings become foggy.

What else is there other than guesswork?

Cool

FOGGY? WTF???

Carbon dating is EXTREMELY RELIABLE! Yeah go and Google it! Seems you need to:
"The reliability of the results can be improved by lengthening the testing time. For example, if counting beta decays for 250 minutes is enough to give an error of ± 80 years, with 68% confidence."

It means you have 70% to have the right date with 80 years error. So if you do it 10 times in a row, you have A FUCKING GOOD RELIABILITY!!!

And again carbon 14 datation is not at all the only one used by scientists! Do you even know how it works?

and bronze age dating is crystal clear. 13.8 billion is just 6 days and 4.5 billion is 6000 years.  Give it take few years  Roll Eyes
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February 18, 2016, 06:01:59 AM
The oldest near factual distance we can go back is barely 5,000 years. Carbon dating has proven itself unreliable. Sumer dating through the "pottery" method suggests an age possibly as far back as 5,000 years. And even that is not a certainty. We can tell that the earth is older than that, but we can't tell haw old beyond that. We absolutely have a lot of guesses, however. Since they are guesses, people who believe them as fact have a religion going for themselves.

Cool
Carbon dating is absolutely not unreliable whatever you say. And not only that but carbon dating is not the only method we use to date old things. It's plain stupidity to think that the world is 5k years old.

The fact that carbon dating is unreliable isn't my idea by any means. Google it.

Even tree ring and ice core samplings are judgmental in the ways they are used to date things.

We might be able to go back a little past 4,500 years or so, but beyond that, it becomes very unclear - dating pottery and written-on-clay fragments.

Lingual and genetic changes seem to trace back only to about 5,000 years. Beyond that even these kinds of datings become foggy.

What else is there other than guesswork?

Cool

FOGGY? WTF???

Carbon dating is EXTREMELY RELIABLE! Yeah go and Google it! Seems you need to:
"The reliability of the results can be improved by lengthening the testing time. For example, if counting beta decays for 250 minutes is enough to give an error of ± 80 years, with 68% confidence."

It means you have 70% to have the right date with 80 years error. So if you do it 10 times in a row, you have A FUCKING GOOD RELIABILITY!!!

And again carbon 14 datation is not at all the only one used by scientists! Do you even know how it works?
legendary
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February 18, 2016, 05:54:02 AM
The oldest near factual distance we can go back is barely 5,000 years. Carbon dating has proven itself unreliable. Sumer dating through the "pottery" method suggests an age possibly as far back as 5,000 years. And even that is not a certainty. We can tell that the earth is older than that, but we can't tell haw old beyond that. We absolutely have a lot of guesses, however. Since they are guesses, people who believe them as fact have a religion going for themselves.

Cool
Carbon dating is absolutely not unreliable whatever you say. And not only that but carbon dating is not the only method we use to date old things. It's plain stupidity to think that the world is 5k years old.

The fact that carbon dating is unreliable isn't my idea by any means. Google it.

Even tree ring and ice core samplings are judgmental in the ways they are used to date things.

We might be able to go back a little past 4,500 years or so, but beyond that, it becomes very unclear - dating pottery and written-on-clay fragments.

Lingual and genetic changes seem to trace back only to about 5,000 years. Beyond that even these kinds of datings become foggy.

What else is there other than guesswork?

Cool
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February 18, 2016, 05:42:10 AM
I know it's hard to think for yourself. Believe me. It's a daily struggle. But that doesn't mean that you have to let a book and some people turn you into a mindless drone. Be religious. It's your right. We don't have to. It's our right.
To be fair it's not just the book.
Most of them get brainwashed by priests and all the stuff around religion. You know the huge American messes and things like that...

Come on. Christians can think a whole lot better than atheists.    Cool

Despite all evidence to the contrary.

(I know you don't have any proof, I'm not even going to bother asking)

An atheist wouldn't even recognize that he is thinking worse than a Christian. Why not? He has shut off the part of his brain that recognizes a whole lot of things, especially about God and Christians.

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Again - proof? Even some kind of fMRI study of brain activation? No, there is no such falsifiable proof.

As usual, you present your opinion as fact. If you didn't do that I'd probably never post here.

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February 18, 2016, 05:31:26 AM
The oldest near factual distance we can go back is barely 5,000 years. Carbon dating has proven itself unreliable. Sumer dating through the "pottery" method suggests an age possibly as far back as 5,000 years. And even that is not a certainty. We can tell that the earth is older than that, but we can't tell haw old beyond that. We absolutely have a lot of guesses, however. Since they are guesses, people who believe them as fact have a religion going for themselves.

Cool
Carbon dating is absolutely not unreliable whatever you say. And not only that but carbon dating is not the only method we use to date old things. It's plain stupidity to think that the world is 5k years old.
legendary
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February 18, 2016, 05:20:45 AM
I know it's hard to think for yourself. Believe me. It's a daily struggle. But that doesn't mean that you have to let a book and some people turn you into a mindless drone. Be religious. It's your right. We don't have to. It's our right.
To be fair it's not just the book.
Most of them get brainwashed by priests and all the stuff around religion. You know the huge American messes and things like that...

Come on. Christians can think a whole lot better than atheists.    Cool

Despite all evidence to the contrary.

(I know you don't have any proof, I'm not even going to bother asking)

An atheist wouldn't even recognize that he is thinking worse than a Christian. Why not? He has shut off the part of his brain that recognizes a whole lot of things, especially about God and Christians.

Cool

Yeah, it's called irrationality ^^

Well, the limited brain usage of atheists is kinda irrational of a thing.    Cool
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February 18, 2016, 05:19:29 AM
I know it's hard to think for yourself. Believe me. It's a daily struggle. But that doesn't mean that you have to let a book and some people turn you into a mindless drone. Be religious. It's your right. We don't have to. It's our right.
To be fair it's not just the book.
Most of them get brainwashed by priests and all the stuff around religion. You know the huge American messes and things like that...

Come on. Christians can think a whole lot better than atheists.    Cool

Despite all evidence to the contrary.

(I know you don't have any proof, I'm not even going to bother asking)

Well he thinks the world is 7k years old so... Not much more to say than that...

The oldest near factual distance we can go back is barely 5,000 years. Carbon dating has proven itself unreliable. Sumer dating through the "pottery" method suggests an age possibly as far back as 5,000 years. And even that is not a certainty. We can tell that the earth is older than that, but we can't tell haw old beyond that. We absolutely have a lot of guesses, however. Since they are guesses, people who believe them as fact have a religion going for themselves.

Cool
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February 18, 2016, 05:15:15 AM
I know it's hard to think for yourself. Believe me. It's a daily struggle. But that doesn't mean that you have to let a book and some people turn you into a mindless drone. Be religious. It's your right. We don't have to. It's our right.
To be fair it's not just the book.
Most of them get brainwashed by priests and all the stuff around religion. You know the huge American messes and things like that...

Come on. Christians can think a whole lot better than atheists.    Cool

Despite all evidence to the contrary.

(I know you don't have any proof, I'm not even going to bother asking)

An atheist wouldn't even recognize that he is thinking worse than a Christian. Why not? He has shut off the part of his brain that recognizes a whole lot of things, especially about God and Christians.

Cool

Yeah, it's called irrationality ^^
legendary
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February 18, 2016, 05:14:08 AM
I know it's hard to think for yourself. Believe me. It's a daily struggle. But that doesn't mean that you have to let a book and some people turn you into a mindless drone. Be religious. It's your right. We don't have to. It's our right.
To be fair it's not just the book.
Most of them get brainwashed by priests and all the stuff around religion. You know the huge American messes and things like that...

Come on. Christians can think a whole lot better than atheists.    Cool

Despite all evidence to the contrary.

(I know you don't have any proof, I'm not even going to bother asking)

An atheist wouldn't even recognize that he is thinking worse than a Christian. Why not? He has shut off the part of his brain that recognizes a whole lot of things, especially about God and Christians.

Cool
sr. member
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February 18, 2016, 05:13:30 AM
I know it's hard to think for yourself. Believe me. It's a daily struggle. But that doesn't mean that you have to let a book and some people turn you into a mindless drone. Be religious. It's your right. We don't have to. It's our right.
To be fair it's not just the book.
Most of them get brainwashed by priests and all the stuff around religion. You know the huge American messes and things like that...

Come on. Christians can think a whole lot better than atheists.    Cool

Despite all evidence to the contrary.

(I know you don't have any proof, I'm not even going to bother asking)

Well he thinks the world is 7k years old so... Not much more to say than that...
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February 18, 2016, 05:10:51 AM
I know it's hard to think for yourself. Believe me. It's a daily struggle. But that doesn't mean that you have to let a book and some people turn you into a mindless drone. Be religious. It's your right. We don't have to. It's our right.
To be fair it's not just the book.
Most of them get brainwashed by priests and all the stuff around religion. You know the huge American messes and things like that...

Come on. Christians can think a whole lot better than atheists.    Cool

Despite all evidence to the contrary.

(I know you don't have any proof, I'm not even going to bother asking)
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