Do you believe that aliens exists?
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Best regards.
Actually, we both know that angels are aliens.
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Actually, we both know that angels are aliens.
Not only is what you write not clear enough to understand what you mean, but also, you are probably entirely wrong.
Why did you say that?
Best regards.
Because I felt that it was a reasonable thing to say.
Right and Wrong does not relate to sensations, they relate to reason.
Why did you say that?
Best regards.
Not only is what you write not clear enough to understand what you mean, but also, you are probably entirely wrong.
Why did you say that?
Best regards.
Because I felt that it was a reasonable thing to say.
So you think that a person can have purpose outside of the universe? Since the person is in the universe, and the purpose is in the person, purpose is also in the universe.
Furthermore, since people are a product of the universe, and since people have enough intelligence that they can have purpose, the universe that made them has purpose as well. Why? Because nowhere in the universe have we found that complexity is ever made by something that is less complexity. On the contrary. Everything we have found shows that what is produced is at least slightly, bun mostly largely, degraded from what has made it (entropy).
This means that not only does the universe have purpose, but it has intelligence, as well. Such intelligence fits the definition that we have of God. Since an atheist denies God in the face of the fact that we know God exists, the atheist has a religion for himself.
Grant you, this is a simple explanation. If you flesh it out, you will see that it is entirely accurate.
Furthermore, since people are a product of the universe, and since people have enough intelligence that they can have purpose, the universe that made them has purpose as well. Why? Because nowhere in the universe have we found that complexity is ever made by something that is less complexity. On the contrary. Everything we have found shows that what is produced is at least slightly, bun mostly largely, degraded from what has made it (entropy).
This means that not only does the universe have purpose, but it has intelligence, as well. Such intelligence fits the definition that we have of God. Since an atheist denies God in the face of the fact that we know God exists, the atheist has a religion for himself.
Grant you, this is a simple explanation. If you flesh it out, you will see that it is entirely accurate.
You definitely don't understand anything.
First you confuse complexity and intelligence. It has nothing to see.
"Everything we have found shows that what is produced is at least slightly, bun mostly largely, degraded from what has made it (entropy)."
Totally wrong. It just means that energy naturally splits. Again you confuse intelligence to energy but they are not linked.
You have a long way to go if you don't know that entropy includes things wearing out and getting old and dying, as well as everything in the universe attempting to equalize throughout all time and space. Simple evaporation is a form of entropy-like operation.Totally wrong. It just means that energy naturally splits. Again you confuse intelligence to energy but they are not linked.
"This means that not only does the universe have purpose, but it has intelligence, as well."
Wroooooooooooooooooooong...
So has we're made out of startdust, stars have intelligence? And a purpose too? Cause it's from that that we come... And as we evolved from monkeys, it means that monkeys have a purpose too?
You're not logical dude.
Wroooooooooooooooooooong...
So has we're made out of startdust, stars have intelligence? And a purpose too? Cause it's from that that we come... And as we evolved from monkeys, it means that monkeys have a purpose too?
You're not logical dude.
No, it is you that is not logical.
Again, consider that intelligence exists. What made it? The only way that complex things are made in the universe is that something more complex caused them to exist as they do. This is evident from the complex machinery that people make. People are way more complex than the machinery that they make. So, whatever caused people and their intelligence to exist, must be way more complex and intelligent than people. Such intelligence fits the definition of the word "God."
Wake up.
Do you believe that aliens exists?
Best regards.
So you think that a person can have purpose outside of the universe? Since the person is in the universe, and the purpose is in the person, purpose is also in the universe.
Furthermore, since people are a product of the universe, and since people have enough intelligence that they can have purpose, the universe that made them has purpose as well. Why? Because nowhere in the universe have we found that complexity is ever made by something that is less complexity. On the contrary. Everything we have found shows that what is produced is at least slightly, bun mostly largely, degraded from what has made it (entropy).
This means that not only does the universe have purpose, but it has intelligence, as well. Such intelligence fits the definition that we have of God. Since an atheist denies God in the face of the fact that we know God exists, the atheist has a religion for himself.
Grant you, this is a simple explanation. If you flesh it out, you will see that it is entirely accurate.
Furthermore, since people are a product of the universe, and since people have enough intelligence that they can have purpose, the universe that made them has purpose as well. Why? Because nowhere in the universe have we found that complexity is ever made by something that is less complexity. On the contrary. Everything we have found shows that what is produced is at least slightly, bun mostly largely, degraded from what has made it (entropy).
This means that not only does the universe have purpose, but it has intelligence, as well. Such intelligence fits the definition that we have of God. Since an atheist denies God in the face of the fact that we know God exists, the atheist has a religion for himself.
Grant you, this is a simple explanation. If you flesh it out, you will see that it is entirely accurate.
You definitely don't understand anything.
First you confuse complexity and intelligence. It has nothing to see.
"Everything we have found shows that what is produced is at least slightly, bun mostly largely, degraded from what has made it (entropy)."
Totally wrong. It just means that energy naturally splits. Again you confuse intelligence to energy but they are not linked.
You have a long way to go if you don't know that entropy includes things wearing out and getting old and dying, as well as everything in the universe attempting to equalize throughout all time and space. Simple evaporation is a form of entropy-like operation.Totally wrong. It just means that energy naturally splits. Again you confuse intelligence to energy but they are not linked.
"This means that not only does the universe have purpose, but it has intelligence, as well."
Wroooooooooooooooooooong...
So has we're made out of startdust, stars have intelligence? And a purpose too? Cause it's from that that we come... And as we evolved from monkeys, it means that monkeys have a purpose too?
You're not logical dude.
Wroooooooooooooooooooong...
So has we're made out of startdust, stars have intelligence? And a purpose too? Cause it's from that that we come... And as we evolved from monkeys, it means that monkeys have a purpose too?
You're not logical dude.
No, it is you that is not logical.
Again, consider that intelligence exists. What made it? The only way that complex things are made in the universe is that something more complex caused them to exist as they do. This is evident from the complex machinery that people make. People are way more complex than the machinery that they make. So, whatever caused people and their intelligence to exist, must be way more complex and intelligent than people. Such intelligence fits the definition of the word "God."
Wake up.
Not only is what you write not clear enough to understand what you mean, but also, you are probably entirely wrong.
Why did you say that?
Best regards.
Personally, I'll stick to the dictionary definitions. However, your definition is inaccurate. If you think out my first response to organofcorti in my previous post in this thread, you will see that God exists, scientifically. You don't have to be an agnostic regarding the existence of God any longer.
That was Scientific Socialism (AKA: Communism).
Communism is the exact opposite of Faith (God).
You can see that by the fact that the last Communist standing nation (China) is promoting atheism as Country's "Religion".
Please look also this thread for more info on what is happening in China right now to Christian's Churches.
Link: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/china-continues-to-tear-down-crosses-from-zhejiangs-churches-1116405
Best regards.
Not only is what you write not clear enough to understand what you mean, but also, you are probably entirely wrong.
So you think that a person can have purpose outside of the universe? Since the person is in the universe, and the purpose is in the person, purpose is also in the universe.
Furthermore, since people are a product of the universe, and since people have enough intelligence that they can have purpose, the universe that made them has purpose as well. Why? Because nowhere in the universe have we found that complexity is ever made by something that is less complexity. On the contrary. Everything we have found shows that what is produced is at least slightly, bun mostly largely, degraded from what has made it (entropy).
This means that not only does the universe have purpose, but it has intelligence, as well. Such intelligence fits the definition that we have of God. Since an atheist denies God in the face of the fact that we know God exists, the atheist has a religion for himself.
Grant you, this is a simple explanation. If you flesh it out, you will see that it is entirely accurate.
Furthermore, since people are a product of the universe, and since people have enough intelligence that they can have purpose, the universe that made them has purpose as well. Why? Because nowhere in the universe have we found that complexity is ever made by something that is less complexity. On the contrary. Everything we have found shows that what is produced is at least slightly, bun mostly largely, degraded from what has made it (entropy).
This means that not only does the universe have purpose, but it has intelligence, as well. Such intelligence fits the definition that we have of God. Since an atheist denies God in the face of the fact that we know God exists, the atheist has a religion for himself.
Grant you, this is a simple explanation. If you flesh it out, you will see that it is entirely accurate.
You definitely don't understand anything.
First you confuse complexity and intelligence. It has nothing to see.
"Everything we have found shows that what is produced is at least slightly, bun mostly largely, degraded from what has made it (entropy)."
Totally wrong. It just means that energy naturally splits. Again you confuse intelligence to energy but they are not linked.
"This means that not only does the universe have purpose, but it has intelligence, as well."
Wroooooooooooooooooooong...
So has we're made out of startdust, stars have intelligence? And a purpose too? Cause it's from that that we come... And as we evolved from monkeys, it means that monkeys have a purpose too?
You're not logical dude.
Personally, I'll stick to the dictionary definitions. However, your definition is inaccurate. If you think out my first response to organofcorti in my previous post in this thread, you will see that God exists, scientifically. You don't have to be an agnostic regarding the existence of God any longer.
That was Scientific Socialism (AKA: Communism).
Communism is the exact opposite of Faith (God).
You can see that by the fact that the last Communist standing nation (China) is promoting atheism as Country's "Religion".
Please look also this thread for more info on what is happening in China right now to Christian's Churches.
Link: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/china-continues-to-tear-down-crosses-from-zhejiangs-churches-1116405
Best regards.
I wonder what kind of institution m0gliE is living in that they allow him to get on Bitcointalk, but they don't allow him to use an online dictionary.
Whatever the dictionary, there is actually at least 4 definitions of God. Not that I can't look into a dictionary, more that I wanted HIS definition of God. And you perfectly know that. Just try to discredit me by being sarcastic.
Here is my definition for example: a god is a supernatural being existing solely thanks to the faith of human beings.
Not your common definition no?
Personally, I'll stick to the dictionary definitions. However, your definition is inaccurate. If you think out my first response to organofcorti in my previous post in this thread, you will see that God exists, scientifically. You don't have to be an agnostic regarding the existence of God any longer.
Purpose indicate a meaning an objective that a group of people have in regarding to something (deity, money, health, other...).
Atheists don't believe in God but they don't have a faith: so the word purpose has no meaning to them.
You know that. I know that. Try explaining that to BADecker.
Look, even if atheist all thought that the universe doesn't have a purpose - not all of them think this way -
Yes, they do. If the universe has a purpose it must have a creator. If you believe in a creator, you're not atheist.
Does an atheist do anything in the universe? Does an atheist dream? Does he make plans? Does he use the things of the universe? For him the universe has a purpose. If it didn't, he would go off and commit suicide out of despair. If he didn't commit suicide out of despair, and the universe didn't have a purpose for him - at least in his own mind - he would have to be a vegetable.
An atheist views himself as god, although he may not recognize that he is doing so. Since he doesn't know much about himself - the way-down-deep human self that he is - yet he believes that he knows, he has a personal religion going.
We are talking about different things - the Universe having a purpose, and making your life have a purpose.
Furthermore, since people are a product of the universe, and since people have enough intelligence that they can have purpose, the universe that made them has purpose as well. Why? Because nowhere in the universe have we found that complexity is ever made by something that is less complexity. On the contrary. Everything we have found shows that what is produced is at least slightly, bun mostly largely, degraded from what has made it (entropy).
This means that not only does the universe have purpose, but it has intelligence, as well. Such intelligence fits the definition that we have of God. Since an atheist denies God in the face of the fact that we know God exists, the atheist has a religion for himself.
Grant you, this is a simple explanation. If you flesh it out, you will see that it is entirely accurate.
An atheist believes his or her life can have a purpose, while the universe does not have a purpose.
Imagine that you have a small, pet monkey in your hand. The monkey has a peanut in his hand. Do you not also have the peanut in your hand? The universe has purpose, even if it is only your purpose.
Since one's life is not identical to "the universe", it is possible for one's life to have purpose, but not ones universe.
In the theories of the mega-universe, where there are parallel universes that all occupy the same space, what you say might be true. Why? There is theory that the spirit/soul/identity of each person resides in a separate universe from the spirit/soul/identity of every other person, even though it is expressed on earth in a body that occupies the same universe as all other human bodies.
If this, or something like this, is the fact, it is possible that there are some universes that don't have purpose (of course, only if universes don't have purpose of themselves... a thing that we don't know). Why? Because there might be some people who don't have purpose. Thus, their universe might not have purpose, as well.
As you can see from all this that I have written in this post, atheism is almost definitely a religion.
For me a god is a supernatural being existing solely thanks to the faith of human beings. So gods exist as long as some humans have faith in them. Not sure it's the same definition for you.
I just realised that my definition was wrong: God in italian is Dio which is DI+O (not D+IO, no "I" first singular personal pronoun here).
So...
Could you define the word God?
"I don't know."
This question is not in the right place.
This question shouldn't be there.
Best regards.
I wonder what kind of institution m0gliE is living in that they allow him to get on Bitcointalk, but they don't allow him to use an online dictionary.
Whatever the dictionary, there is actually at least 4 definitions of God. Not that I can't look into a dictionary, more that I wanted HIS definition of God. And you perfectly know that. Just try to discredit me by being sarcastic.
Here is my definition for example: a god is a supernatural being existing solely thanks to the faith of human beings.
Not your common definition no?
Could you define the word God?
God in italian is "Dio" which is D+Io ("Io" is the first singular personal pronoun, "I" in English).
The word "Dio" in italian sounds like a super version of "I" (the subject using the word).
The corresponding word in English would be "GI" which explains nothing.
I'll ask you: can you define the word God?
Best regards.
For me a god is a supernatural being existing solely thanks to the faith of human beings. So gods exist as long as some humans have faith in them. Not sure it's the same definition for you.
I wonder what kind of institution m0gliE is living in that they allow him to get on Bitcointalk, but they don't allow him to use an online dictionary.
Can you define the word God?
Best regards.
Could you define the word God?
God in italian is "Dio" which is D+Io ("Io" is the first singular personal pronoun, "I" in English).
The word "Dio" in italian sounds like a super version of "I" (the subject using the word).
The corresponding word in English would be "GI" which explains nothing.
I'll ask you: can you define the word God?
Best regards.
I wonder what kind of institution m0gliE is living in that they allow him to get on Bitcointalk, but they don't allow him to use an online dictionary.
Could you define the word God?
God in italian is "Dio" which is D+Io ("Io" is the first singular personal pronoun, "I" in English).
The word "Dio" in italian sounds like a super version of "I" (the subject using the word).
The corresponding word in English would be "GI" which explains nothing.
I'll ask you: can you define the word God?
Best regards.
Are you sure you can read? That clearly says that agnostics neither affirm or deny the existance of the supernatural.
Approved. that's exactly what I meant by saying I'm agnostic. Saying that the question of divine existence or purpose is not answerable by humanity.
I understand that you cannot answer the question "Does God exist?" so I'll ask you a question:
Do you believe in God?
Best regards.
Could you define the word God?
Are you sure you can read? That clearly says that agnostics neither affirm or deny the existance of the supernatural.
Approved. that's exactly what I meant by saying I'm agnostic. Saying that the question of divine existence or purpose is not answerable by humanity.
I understand that you cannot answer the question "Does God exist?" so I'll ask you a question:
Do you believe in God?
Best regards.
Are you sure you can read? That clearly says that agnostics neither affirm or deny the existance of the supernatural.
Approved. that's exactly what I meant by saying I'm agnostic. Saying that the question of divine existence or purpose is not answerable by humanity.
Are you sure you can read Bitnow? or do you just selectively read the specific words that float your boat?
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