Why do Atheists Hate Religion? - page 316.

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Quote from: BitNow on October 13, 2015, 06:43:32 PM

Quote from: MakingMoneyHoney on October 13, 2015, 06:28:07 PM

Pope Francis came "in his own name" and not in his Father's name when he went to the UN recently. The video shows his translator saying he comes in his own name. Pope Comes to United Nations "In His Own Name" : John 5:43

John 5:43 "I have come in My Father's name, and you do not receive Me; if another comes in his own name, you will receive him. 44"How can you believe, when you receive glory from one another and you do not seek the glory that is from the one and only God?

Man: the Pope is a MAN (or a woman in the case of Elisabeth II), he/she is not Jesus Christ.

He/she's the vicar of Jesus Christ not Jesus Christ himself.

Forgive their sins as you will forgive to men/women.

Best regards.

The Pope could have come in Jesus' name. But he came in his own name just like Jesus prophesied. And you receive him (the Pope)... just like Jesus said you would... because you are not seeking the glory that comes from the only God.

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Quote from: BADecker on October 13, 2015, 06:37:59 PM

Thank you. It is very common sensical to examine the facts, and then to base faith on the facts.

Jesus Christ came in blind faith why shouldn't we?

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Quote from: MakingMoneyHoney on October 13, 2015, 06:28:07 PM

Pope Francis came "in his own name" and not in his Father's name when he went to the UN recently. The video shows his translator saying he comes in his own name. Pope Comes to United Nations "In His Own Name" : John 5:43

John 5:43 "I have come in My Father's name, and you do not receive Me; if another comes in his own name, you will receive him. 44"How can you believe, when you receive glory from one another and you do not seek the glory that is from the one and only God?

Man: the Pope is a MAN (or a woman in the case of Elisabeth II), he/she is not Jesus Christ.

He/she's the vicar of Jesus Christ not Jesus Christ himself.

Forgive their sins as you will forgive to men/women.

Best regards.

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Quote from: BitNow on October 13, 2015, 06:26:24 PM

Quote from: BADecker on October 13, 2015, 06:24:24 PM

BitNow is acting on almost blind faith. God doesn't require this of us. He has given us the Bible so that we can see that there is substance and foundation for the faith that we DO have.

Common sense.

Thank you. It is very common sensical to examine the facts, and then to base faith on the facts.

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Quote from: BitNow on October 13, 2015, 06:25:51 PM

Quote from: MakingMoneyHoney on October 13, 2015, 06:21:13 PM

I don't have a problem with authority. I just don't believe the pope is the Vicar of Jesus Christ. He didn't come in his Father's name at the UN. What do you think of that?

I talked about the Pope, those are 2 people:

Elisabeth II, Supreme Governor of the Anglican Church
Francesco, Pope of the Catholic Church

Since you were talking about Francesco: in what name he came to the UN?

Best regards.

Pope Francis came "in his own name" and not in his Father's name when he went to the UN recently. The video shows his translator saying he comes in his own name. Pope Comes to United Nations "In His Own Name" : John 5:43

John 5:43 "I have come in My Father's name, and you do not receive Me; if another comes in his own name, you will receive him. 44"How can you believe, when you receive glory from one another and you do not seek the glory that is from the one and only God?

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Quote from: BADecker on October 13, 2015, 06:24:24 PM

BitNow is acting on almost blind faith. God doesn't require this of us. He has given us the Bible so that we can see that there is substance and foundation for the faith that we DO have.

Common sense.

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Quote from: MakingMoneyHoney on October 13, 2015, 06:21:13 PM

I don't have a problem with authority. I just don't believe the pope is the Vicar of Jesus Christ. He didn't come in his Father's name at the UN. What do you think of that?

I talked about the Pope, those are 2 people:

Elisabeth II, Supreme Governor of the Anglican Church
Francesco, Pope of the Catholic Church

Since you were talking about Francesco: in what name he came to the UN?

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Quote from: MakingMoneyHoney on October 13, 2015, 06:21:13 PM

Quote from: BitNow on October 13, 2015, 06:18:13 PM

Quote from: MakingMoneyHoney on October 13, 2015, 06:13:25 PM

I'd say not all Christians believe in the trinity.

Yes: I'm Catholic and you have a problem with authority, particularly with the authority of the Pope, the Vicar of Jesus Christ (on Earth).

Best regards.

I don't have a problem with authority. I just don't believe the pope is the Vicar of Jesus Christ. He didn't come in his Father's name at the UN. What do you think of that?

BitNow is acting on almost blind faith. God doesn't require this of us. He has given us the Bible so that we can see that there is substance and foundation for the faith that we DO have.

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Quote from: BitNow on October 13, 2015, 06:18:13 PM

Quote from: MakingMoneyHoney on October 13, 2015, 06:13:25 PM

I'd say not all Christians believe in the trinity.

Yes: I'm Catholic and you have a problem with authority, particularly with the authority of the Pope, the Vicar of Jesus Christ (on Earth).

Best regards.

I don't have a problem with authority. I just don't believe the pope is the Vicar of Jesus Christ. He didn't come in his Father's name at the UN. What do you think of that?

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Quote from: BADecker on October 13, 2015, 06:15:07 PM

The Jews more than anyone have the Bible. Nobody has to answer them. Since they won't accept the Bible that they have, they will have to answer God when He questions them at the last day.

Yeah, me too: I'm fine with silence.

And after 2 months in this thread I do start to not care about atheists either.

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Quote from: MakingMoneyHoney on October 13, 2015, 06:13:25 PM

I'd say not all Christians believe in the trinity.

Yes: I'm Catholic and you have a problem with authority, particularly with the authority of the Pope, the Vicar of Jesus Christ (on Earth).

Best regards.

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Quote from: BitNow on October 13, 2015, 06:13:43 PM

Quote from: BADecker on October 13, 2015, 06:10:36 PM

If you believed and professed the things of the Bible rather than the things of the Pope, you would be more of a Pope than the Pope is, as well.

Saying what you are, or will be, without nobody telling that on you first is called pride.

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No pride required. Simple reading of the Bible is all that is required.

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Quote from: BitNow on October 13, 2015, 05:11:06 PM

Quote from: Buffer Overflow on October 13, 2015, 05:01:39 PM

Just listen to yourselves. It's like two children in a playground squabbling over who's got the best yo-yo. Roll Eyes

What you fail to see is that you both worship man. You have been all along. I'm surprised with all this man worshipping going on you've got any time left for God. Tongue

Catholics worship the pope. (MAN)
Christians worship Jesus. (MAN)

You're alot closer to each other than you would both care to admit. Roll Eyes

Naturally of course you will deny this till your blue in the face. So please don't bother replying.

I'm Christian and because those others weak "Christians" I have to see this.

Quote from: MakingMoneyHoney on October 13, 2015, 05:06:55 PM

Christians worship the Father in Heaven (God) who created us all and deserves the glory, they follow Jesus's example on how to live on earth.

And that's my problem: christians believe in the Trinity while for the Jews the Trinity is considered polytheism.

How you will reply to our common big brothers "the Jews"?

Best regards.

The Jews more than anyone have the Bible. Nobody has to answer them. Since they won't accept the Bible that they have, they will have to answer God when He questions them at the last day.

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Quote from: BADecker on October 13, 2015, 06:10:36 PM

If you believed and professed the things of the Bible rather than the things of the Pope, you would be more of a Pope than the Pope is, as well.

Saying what you are, or will be, without nobody telling that on you first is called pride.

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Quote from: BitNow on October 13, 2015, 05:11:06 PM

Quote from: MakingMoneyHoney on October 13, 2015, 05:06:55 PM

Christians worship the Father in Heaven (God) who created us all and deserves the glory, they follow Jesus's example on how to live on earth.

And that's my problem: christians believe in the Trinity while for the Jews the Trinity is considered polytheism.

How you will reply to our common big brothers "the Jews"?

Best regards.

I'd say not all Christians believe in the trinity.

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Quote from: Buffer Overflow on October 13, 2015, 05:01:39 PM

Quote from: BitNow on October 13, 2015, 03:49:48 PM

They are not even able to follow the Pope which is Vicar of Jesus Christ on Earth.

Quote from: MakingMoneyHoney on October 13, 2015, 04:28:11 PM

I follow the leader Jesus Christ. He led by example and the bible details it. I don't follow humans who sin.

Just listen to yourselves. It's like two children in a playground squabbling over who's got the best yo-yo. Roll Eyes

What you fail to see is that you both worship man. You have been all along. I'm surprised with all this man worshipping going on you've got any time left for God. Tongue

Catholics worship the pope. (MAN)
Christians worship Jesus. (MAN)

You're alot closer to each other than you would both care to admit. Roll Eyes

Naturally of course you will deny this till your blue in the face. So please don't bother replying.

Jesus is truly a man. The difference is that He is God as well. Your insolence is only your attempt to be a god among men.

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Quote from: BitNow on October 13, 2015, 04:57:38 PM

Quote from: BADecker on October 13, 2015, 04:52:36 PM

You are welcome. But in this case, it isn't my view; it's God's view.

Since your Pope doesn't have God's view, I am more of a Pope than your Pope is.

When pride comes, then comes disgrace, but with humility comes wisdom.
- Pro 11:2

No pride. Simply fact.

If you believed and professed the things of the Bible rather than the things of the Pope, you would be more of a Pope than the Pope is, as well.

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Quote from: Buffer Overflow on October 13, 2015, 05:01:39 PM

Just listen to yourselves. It's like two children in a playground squabbling over who's got the best yo-yo. Roll Eyes

What you fail to see is that you both worship man. You have been all along. I'm surprised with all this man worshipping going on you've got any time left for God. Tongue

Catholics worship the pope. (MAN)
Christians worship Jesus. (MAN)

You're alot closer to each other than you would both care to admit. Roll Eyes

Naturally of course you will deny this till your blue in the face. So please don't bother replying.

I'm Christian and because those others weak "Christians" I have to see this.

Quote from: MakingMoneyHoney on October 13, 2015, 05:06:55 PM

Christians worship the Father in Heaven (God) who created us all and deserves the glory, they follow Jesus's example on how to live on earth.

And that's my problem: christians believe in the Trinity while for the Jews the Trinity is considered polytheism.

How you will reply to our common big brothers "the Jews"?

Best regards.

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Quote from: Buffer Overflow on October 13, 2015, 05:01:39 PM

Quote from: BitNow on October 13, 2015, 03:49:48 PM

They are not even able to follow the Pope which is Vicar of Jesus Christ on Earth.

Quote from: MakingMoneyHoney on October 13, 2015, 04:28:11 PM

I follow the leader Jesus Christ. He led by example and the bible details it. I don't follow humans who sin.

Just listen to yourselves. It's like two children in a playground squabbling over who's got the best yo-yo. Roll Eyes

What you fail to see is that you both worship man. You have been all along. I'm surprised with all this man worshipping going on you've got any time left for God. Tongue

Catholics worship the pope. (MAN)
Christians worship Jesus. (MAN)

You're alot closer to each other than you would both care to admit. Roll Eyes

Naturally of course you will deny this till your blue in the face. So please don't bother replying.

Christians worship the Father in Heaven (God) who created us all and deserves the glory, they follow Jesus's example on how to live on earth.

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Quote from: BitNow on October 13, 2015, 03:49:48 PM

They are not even able to follow the Pope which is Vicar of Jesus Christ on Earth.

Quote from: MakingMoneyHoney on October 13, 2015, 04:28:11 PM

I follow the leader Jesus Christ. He led by example and the bible details it. I don't follow humans who sin.

Just listen to yourselves. It's like two children in a playground squabbling over who's got the best yo-yo. Roll Eyes

What you fail to see is that you both worship man. You have been all along. I'm surprised with all this man worshipping going on you've got any time left for God. Tongue

Catholics worship the pope. (MAN)
Christians worship Jesus. (MAN)

You're alot closer to each other than you would both care to admit. Roll Eyes

Naturally of course you will deny this till your blue in the face. So please don't bother replying.

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