Topic: Why do Atheists Hate Religion? - page 313. (Read 901519 times)

The OP, an atheist, said he hated religion.

They actually don't hate it, they just don't believe in the different religions. Correct me if I'm wrong tho

watch this video and the many shows they do..you will see how stupid religion is..
ATHEIST EXPERIENCE its called watch some of the shows and see how stupid people are ..some callers are lawyers and so called bright people ...

www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqKhmlG6ZVo

There is nothing about who created each and every blade of grass, or who created you and me. It was only Adam and Eve that God made.

At least we have found out why the Vatican is in Italy.

What about Time and Space?

Who created them?

I think I found where all this story is lost: in the Bible there is nothing about Time and Space. Is that the Mystery of Faith?



Thank You.

Actually, we don't KNOW that the universe is still expanding.

The evidence that the universe is still expanding is in the light that we see. Yet, the whole idea of light traveling at a standard 186,000 miles per second or so, may not have been the thing that happened in the past. What I mean is, the universe might have started collapsing upon itself long ago, and we simply have not received the light from it, yet. We just don't know.

The Bible creation story suggests that God set the light in place in a moment, so that the light that we see coming from the vast regions of space, was almost instantaneously set there by God at the time of creation.

In addition, Graham Hancock is showing that modern science is hiding a lot of truth, just so science can keep on maintaining position for the scientists. Check out Rupert Sheldrake at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKHUaNAxsTg as he shows that much of the standard understanding of science just might be false.

The point I was making is that the idea of 6 days of creation to make the universe is something that is not all that impossible, especially when Big Bang Theory suggests something like that happening in much less time than 6 days.

As you know big bang isnt over as we speak right now univerese is still expanding
Untill it goes into deep freeze. Even right now creation is still happening.

Actually, it is the other way around.

Atheists so fear death and damnation that they have hypnotized themselves into a mental block against the things of theism and religion that make scientific sense. Then they look to science as their god, hoping that science will give them better answers - like how to extend life indefinitely.

Yet it is science that has proven God exists... via the combining of 3 basic scientific laws:
1. cause and effect;
2. universal complexity;
3. universal entropy.

In the face of the scientific proof that God exists, atheists go on with their atheism religion - which has become a cult in the face of the proof that God exists - attempting to ignore the 3 laws, or at least their combining.

The 7-day thing is wrong. God created everything is 6 days. He rested the 7th day.

Why would it be stupid to think that God created everything in 6 days? Look at Big Bang Theory. This theory suggests that in the first 6 days following the start of the Big Bang, that the universe jumped from a sub-microscopic point, to a gigantically tremendous size. So, even our scientists suggest that a humongous amount of creation can happen in just 6 days.

I find that hard to believe. An afterlife of nothingness, is nothing. Who would care?

It would be stupid if someone really thinks that the creation took
Only 7 earth days. Im sure many people misinterpreted the other
Words in th bible making it more exagerated.

I have stumbled upon something recently that got my interest. It is said (in some religions) that 'God' created everything in 7 days. These are also called 'the day of creation'. I do understand that this should not be literally translated/understood. However, if time is a measurement that humans made up (days - we did), then how would this even be possible?  

This actually makes more sense. I'm pretty sure that religions (i.e. promising afterlife) have so many followers due to the fear of death, the fear of nothingness. Most do not like thinking about death at all.

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Update:
This is not my interpretation. This is the interpretation that Christians are being taught.

Me my self is not a huge fan of any religion, but one I admire about
Them is faith. Relying entirely on faith for what you belive is quite something.

This is my god word - there is no afterlife.  I make you once and if you are stupid enough to die, oh well.

Why would you need an authority when you can just evaluate the evidence and decide for yourself?
http://www.near-death.com/evidence.html

If they weren't trying to compete with the Pope, or with any other religion, they would not exist, or at least they would not have folks like you promoting them.

Jesus teaching reincarnation is simply another fabrication.

The fact that Jesus was called Emanuel, shows that He is God. Thanks for recognizing God in the Bible.

You are missing the point of the history written in the Bible. The point is that if it is in there, it's because the guy who wrote it was accepted as a person of truth by the people of Israel. The reason they accepted him is that he stood up to the test of a prophet that Moses laid down back in the Torah. The reason that this is truth is, it has been handed down parents to children, by the Jewish people, who are very zealous and jealous for maintaining their traditions.

In other words, the whole Jewish community is the witness to the authenticity of the Old Testament, and some to the New Testament. For the New Testament, besides the believing Jews, we have many ancient manuscripts, themselves, along with the writings of early church fathers.

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When you look at the story of Abraham that you mentioned, there was no terrorizing involved. The terror is only yours, right along with the idea that you know how God is going to act. Besides, there aren't any innocent children. They are all corrupted genetically. If they weren't, there would be a lot of 500-year-old folks around. The innocence of children involves the natural faith in Jesus that they have, because it is He that builds them in the womb.

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Many people over the ages have written that the Bible is partial or complete fabrication. You are just another.

You have not read any Journal, so you do not know what you are talking about; I think you know next-to-nothing about the teachings of Emmanuel.

Emmanuel taught reincarnation, not resurrection, and further the evidence supports reincarnation, but you do not care one whit about evidence so now you are on my ignore list just like Vod and BitNow.

Hi BADecker,
I suppose I will have to school you on logic before our argument goes any further.
Your fallacy is begging the question; your argument goes like this:

whenever anybody offers an argument that challenges the veracity of a story in the Bible, argue that the Bible has no false stories within it because it would conflict with those prophets that have always been assumed to be correct because they are consistent with what we already know, namely, what is asserted in the Bible.

Since you did not specify what "the test" is, it seems like you make the above argument. To "push" one's "story" "into the Bible" is totally subjective and a non-sequitor, it does not relate to the truth of the story. THE way to tell the truth of something is to ask yourself whether it is of GOD.

No God of LOVE would terrorize a child to teach the child's father a lesson; it is not the father but the child who suffers in such a case. God does not cause suffering, least of all the innocent children.

In my research today, I found more evidence that the Bible was re-written to suit Man's political agenda; Matthew 28:19 was fabricated. Now, it seems like this verse is in all the modern-day Bibles, so do you then accept it?

http://jesus-messiah.com/apologetics/catholic/matthew-proof.html

When you look at the history of Christianity over the last 1,500 years, you can see all kinds of Popes in various churches in various countries. I haven't looked lately, but there are probably various Roman-like churches in several places in the world (Greece, Russia) that have their own Pope, or at least a Bishop that has the full power of the Pope in their particular religion.

Now we have the Phoenix Journals trying to compete with all the Popes. Get off it. Don't we have enough Popes already? We don't need more devils coming in the form of the Journals. We have enough in the Popes already.