Topic: Why do Atheists Hate Religion? - page 321. (Read 901519 times)

what the fuck are you talking about? why should one be afraid of god when he dosent help out  innocent people when they are starving ? or when they were killed in WARS ?

hell i dont believe in you nor the nsa ...i believe in myself but i do care about the opinions and thoughts.
also we are on the same side ,its them who are in search of  magical world

I told you you are sinning and you keep doing it.

Are you not afraid of God?


Thank You.

Why are you reading a 2,000 year old book, when you have an actual god here, willing to talk to you?

If "your" god has any power at all, why doesn't he shut me up?  Because he doesn't exist, and I know.

Prove I'm not a god - burden of proof is on the YOU.

Saying you are God is a sin according to the 1st Commandment:
"I am the LORD your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. You shall have no other gods before me. You shall not make for yourself a graven image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; you shall not bow down to them or serve them."
Ref: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten_Commandments

What's wrong with you?


Thank You.

I am more powerful than any other god.

Here I am, spitting in their faces, and they are unable to do anything about it.

If you don't believe me, you need to prove I don't exist. 

he wont ,because you are not superstitious and  you can be easily defeated by the magical powers of zeus and other trillion GODS ,
magic makes them believe in GOD.

It's YOUR thoughts - YOU posted that the burden of proof is on the one who does not believe.

So prove I am not your god, and I suggest you do it before you die.  I can be a real asshole god for all eternity.   

Or are you just a troll?

You're nothing more than a boob-licker.  
And guess what?
If you can't (or won't) post rational thoughts, that means you are a troll.

1aguar, watch how you post to your god, unless you can prove I'm not one...

Brother, the Bible has been tampered with; the book of Isaiah was modified; you have to sort the truth from the lie and be aware that the Messenger who you follow gave you only ONE Commandment. No need to deify the messenger when his commandment was as simple as it IS!

Also, thanks to "sorryforthat", I found more evidence that the Bible is highly modified:

"With impetus provided by the accumulated historical and textual evidence supporting reincarnation, this book first examines Gospel evidence that Jesus actually taught reincarnation and karma rather than resurrection. Deardorff's compelling analysis bolsters other studies indicating that the concept of resurrection displaced reincarnation in earliest Christianity due to its pre-belief by certain Pharisee converts, and specifies how the Gospels came to reflect this belief."

So, I ask you to be rational, to take a look at the evidence, and this is how you respond?


In common parlance, to be rational means that one can think clearly and is capable of intelligently assessing new ideas when presented.

I don't think you have done any of that; I suspect that you don't even know what the survival hypothesis entails.

The assertion that "each person integrates their near-death experience into their own pre-existing belief system" is not a flaw which is fatal to the survival hypothesis.
Indeed, "You Cannot Deny the Experiences of Others", so this is not even a flaw of the hypothesis; it is a feature of human experience that experiences are different (and yet remarkably similar), and why should it not be moreso in the etheric realm? On that page you will find Chopra's book; his urgent message should be pondered: "Who you meet in the afterlife and what you experience there reflect your present beliefs, expectations, and level of awareness. In the here and now, you can shape what happens after you die."

The most common "skeptical" fallacy is to equate an untested and hypothetical explanation with a theory based on empirical data.
People who believe in Materialism often try to discredit the empirical evidence for the afterlife by making up stories about why that evidence might be wrong without really investigating the evidence or by backing up their stories with facts. They don't even realize their stories are contradicted by facts because they never investigated the evidence in the first place.

The AWARE study is a successful experiment that validates the survival hypothesis by evidencing the fact of veridical perception during NDE when the brain was non-functional.

Nothing to do with it.... Bro, the site you have pushed so heavily has separate pages that pretty much say the same thing.

http://www.near-death.com/religion/hinduism.html

I don't believe that the survival hypothesis has anything to do with religion.

You could conclude that, but you would have no evidence to support that hypothesis and link it to what was actually observed; especially when you consider the facts of veridical perception, scientific discoveries resulting from NDE, etc.

Everyone's experience is different. Again, religion has nothing to do with this, even atheists have these experiences and are changed.

The experience stands on its own because it includes veridical perception when the brain was non-functional, so it shows that some of the personality survives death some of the time; religion has nothing to do with it.

Well what good is a god if he can't antagonize his followers every now and then?

I don't mind jaguar praying to a different god, as long as he knows he'll spend eternity in my reality.

I completely agree with you but now your just antagonizing.

Then this ideal would have to focus on all religions and not just the more common western world religions.

The page you posted shows that there are numerous similarities and 90 percent of those on your list explain the same visions and can thus be concluded as a near death experience based on past events or studies.

Now the tricky part is knowing what to experience, which is dictated heavily by your culture and background. Christians, Hindu, Buddhist, Islamic, and Vedic near death experiences are going to be different as they each have their own pre-defined belief system.

So you cannot prove near death experience to be true unless you can control a study that produces equal results among people who fall within the same religion or pre-defined belief system. This goes deeper than the most modern religions.

I believe I am the true Virtual God, and I have been for the last three years here on this forum.  My afterlife is exclusive - no other afterlife exists.

Like you posted, you need to prove that my afterlife does not exist.

Until you can prove that, your afterlife cannot exist.   

No, I want you to behave rationally and evaluate evidence like a scientist.
I want you to evaluate the evidence, and then propose an explanation for it.
The evidence is generally thought to be so overwhelming
that an explanation not involving the survival hypothesis
(the idea that some personalities survive death, some of the time)
is not plausible in the least.