Why do Atheists Hate Religion? - page 331.

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Quote from: BitNow on September 22, 2015, 07:34:01 AM

Quote from: BADecker on September 22, 2015, 07:32:24 AM

Actually, it is the other way around. You need to start using the whole Bible instead of only the parts that make you happy. You can't pick and choose.

If you don't use the Bible, but you do listen to the Pope, how do you know if your faith lies in truth? Maybe you are having faith in falsehood.

For example. There is no place in the Bible that suggests that you can pay your way into Heaven with money. But there are Popes in history that have said that you can do this. I don't follow what the papacy says right now, but this might even be a teaching that is being taught by Rome right now. It is completely against Bible teaching.

Who said is the other way around?!?

Are you even listening to yourself?!?

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Well, does the Pope or the Papacy say that you can buy your way into Heaven with money? There are times in history when they did.

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Quote from: BADecker on September 22, 2015, 07:38:12 AM

I said it is the other way around. Do you even read what I post?

Compare the Bible to the Pope. They are different. If you believe the Pope, you are against the Bible. If you believe the Bible, you are against the Pope.

But you don't know this if you don't read the Bible. If you read the Bible, you still might not know it if you don't listen to the things that the Pope is saying and compare them with the Bible.

That's wrong but have a nice day.

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Quote from: BitNow on September 22, 2015, 07:34:01 AM

Quote from: BADecker on September 22, 2015, 07:32:24 AM

Actually, it is the other way around. You need to start using the whole Bible instead of only the parts that make you happy. You can't pick and choose.

If you don't use the Bible, but you do listen to the Pope, how do you know if your faith lies in truth? Maybe you are having faith in falsehood.

For example. There is no place in the Bible that suggests that you can pay your way into Heaven with money. But there are Popes in history that have said that you can do this. I don't follow what the papacy says right now, but this might even be a teaching that is being taught by Rome right now. It is completely against Bible teaching.

Who said is the other way around?!?

Are you even listening to yourself?!?

Thank You.

I said it is the other way around. Do you even read what I post?

Compare the Bible to the Pope. They are different. If you believe the Pope, you are against the Bible. If you believe the Bible, you are against the Pope.

But you don't know this if you don't read the Bible. If you read the Bible, you still might not know it if you don't listen to the things that the Pope is saying and compare them with the Bible.

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Quote from: BADecker on September 22, 2015, 07:32:24 AM

Actually, it is the other way around. You need to start using the whole Bible instead of only the parts that make you happy. You can't pick and choose.

If you don't use the Bible, but you do listen to the Pope, how do you know if your faith lies in truth? Maybe you are having faith in falsehood.

For example. There is no place in the Bible that suggests that you can pay your way into Heaven with money. But there are Popes in history that have said that you can do this. I don't follow what the papacy says right now, but this might even be a teaching that is being taught by Rome right now. It is completely against Bible teaching.

Who said is the other way around?!?

Are you even listening to yourself?!?

Thank You.

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Quote from: BitNow on September 22, 2015, 07:24:55 AM

Quote from: BADecker on September 22, 2015, 07:21:10 AM

Quote from: gampher on September 22, 2015, 03:58:56 AM

Quote from: BADecker on September 22, 2015, 01:03:58 AM

Obeying the law will save you if you obey it perfectly. You have not done so up until now. You will not do so in the future.

what the hell are you speaking ? who says what is perfect and what is not ?

Well, people certainly are not perfect. If they were, they would live indefinitely.

Quote from: gampher on September 22, 2015, 03:58:56 AM

Quote from: BADecker on September 22, 2015, 01:03:58 AM

There is only one person Who has obeyed the law perfectly. That is Jesus Christ. Since He has obeyed the law perfectly, He has the right to request and receive anything from His father... anything. He has requested you... if you believe on Him. He will not debase Himself below you. But He will take you with Him if you accept Him.

do you seriously know what you are saying ?

Not entirely. I understand a lot of what I have said about the Christ. But not all of it. I, too, am learning. The real question is, Do you know what you are asking?

You are just using "question and anti-question" tactics.

Your thoughts have nothing to say about Faith or Jesus Christ, your thoughts are only bright conversation skills.

Please stop using the person of Jesus Christ for your own interest.

God and the person of Jesus Christ are bigger than your own pleasure.

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Actually, it is the other way around. You need to start using the whole Bible instead of only the parts that make you happy. You can't pick and choose.

If you don't use the Bible, but you do listen to the Pope, how do you know if your faith lies in truth? Maybe you are having faith in falsehood.

For example. There is no place in the Bible that suggests that you can pay your way into Heaven with money. But there are Popes in history that have said that you can do this. I don't follow what the papacy says right now, but this might even be a teaching that is being taught by Rome right now. It is completely against Bible teaching.

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Quote from: BADecker on September 22, 2015, 07:21:10 AM

Quote from: gampher on September 22, 2015, 03:58:56 AM

Quote from: BADecker on September 22, 2015, 01:03:58 AM

Obeying the law will save you if you obey it perfectly. You have not done so up until now. You will not do so in the future.

what the hell are you speaking ? who says what is perfect and what is not ?

Well, people certainly are not perfect. If they were, they would live indefinitely.

Quote from: gampher on September 22, 2015, 03:58:56 AM

Quote from: BADecker on September 22, 2015, 01:03:58 AM

There is only one person Who has obeyed the law perfectly. That is Jesus Christ. Since He has obeyed the law perfectly, He has the right to request and receive anything from His father... anything. He has requested you... if you believe on Him. He will not debase Himself below you. But He will take you with Him if you accept Him.

do you seriously know what you are saying ?

Not entirely. I understand a lot of what I have said about the Christ. But not all of it. I, too, am learning. The real question is, Do you know what you are asking?

You are just using "question and anti-question" tactics.

Your thoughts have nothing to say about Faith or Jesus Christ, your thoughts are only bright conversation skills.

Please stop using the person of Jesus Christ for your own interest.

God and the person of Jesus Christ are bigger than your own pleasure.

Thank You

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Quote from: BitNow on September 22, 2015, 07:19:15 AM

Quote from: BADecker on September 22, 2015, 07:15:22 AM

No, it's the other way around. You can prove the existence of God with science. Details about God are difficult to prove with science. It's the details that are the faith thing.

It is like proving you exist. We know that you exist because we see your posts in the forum. Your existence is fact. But we don't know you. We don't know the things about you. We don't know if you are blonde, a redhead, or bald. We are learning things about you from your posts. We need to take a lot of info about you on faith.

Who said is the other way around?

Quote from: BADecker on September 22, 2015, 07:17:21 AM

I won't. The Pope is a political figure who is a representative of the devil. He is the false prophet spoken about in the Revelation. He is the Antichrist.

And yet you said you believe in Jesus Christ.

Nice: I just found the Antichirst!

Thank You.

When you compare the description of the Antichrist in the Revelation with the Pope, it is an exact fit. They look completely alike.

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Quote from: gampher on September 22, 2015, 03:58:56 AM

Quote from: BADecker on September 22, 2015, 01:03:58 AM

Obeying the law will save you if you obey it perfectly. You have not done so up until now. You will not do so in the future.

what the hell are you speaking ? who says what is perfect and what is not ?

Well, people certainly are not perfect. If they were, they would live indefinitely.

Quote from: gampher on September 22, 2015, 03:58:56 AM

Quote from: BADecker on September 22, 2015, 01:03:58 AM

There is only one person Who has obeyed the law perfectly. That is Jesus Christ. Since He has obeyed the law perfectly, He has the right to request and receive anything from His father... anything. He has requested you... if you believe on Him. He will not debase Himself below you. But He will take you with Him if you accept Him.

do you seriously know what you are saying ?

Not entirely. I understand a lot of what I have said about the Christ. But not all of it. I, too, am learning. The real question is, Do you know what you are asking?

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Quote from: BADecker on September 22, 2015, 07:15:22 AM

No, it's the other way around. You can prove the existence of God with science. Details about God are difficult to prove with science. It's the details that are the faith thing.

It is like proving you exist. We know that you exist because we see your posts in the forum. Your existence is fact. But we don't know you. We don't know the things about you. We don't know if you are blonde, a redhead, or bald. We are learning things about you from your posts. We need to take a lot of info about you on faith.

Who said is the other way around?

Quote from: BADecker on September 22, 2015, 07:17:21 AM

I won't. The Pope is a political figure who is a representative of the devil. He is the false prophet spoken about in the Revelation. He is the Antichrist.

And yet you said you believe in Jesus Christ.

Nice: I just found the Antichirst!

I think I understood why you are in an atheists thread: you don't have the guts of believing and you keep accusing anybody is coming your way of anything!

Listen to me: start believing and your doubts will go away.

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Quote from: BitNow on September 22, 2015, 07:13:58 AM

Quote from: BADecker on September 22, 2015, 07:09:24 AM

and others who believe in people as gods, etc.

Don't confound the Pope with normal people.

The Pope is the vicar of Christ, normal people is you and me.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vicar_of_Christ

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I won't. The Pope is a political figure who is a representative of the devil. He is the false prophet spoken about in the Revelation. He is the Antichrist.

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Quote from: BitNow on September 22, 2015, 04:28:17 AM

Quote from: Uses on September 21, 2015, 10:16:28 PM

For however much strong evidence exists that there is a God, there is an equal amount of evidence to prove that God doesn't exist.

You cannot prove with Science the existence of God.

The existence of God is a Faith problem.

No, it's the other way around. You can prove the existence of God with science. Details about God are difficult to prove with science. It's the details that are the faith thing.

It is like proving you exist. We know that you exist because we see your posts in the forum. Your existence is fact. But we don't know you. We don't know the things about you. We don't know if you are blonde, a redhead, or bald. We are learning things about you from your posts. We need to take a lot of info about you on faith.

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Quote from: BADecker on September 22, 2015, 07:09:24 AM

and others who believe in people as gods, etc.

Don't confound the Pope with normal people.

The Pope is the vicar of Christ, normal people is you and me.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vicar_of_Christ

Thank You.

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Quote from: Vod on September 22, 2015, 06:55:10 AM

Quote from: BitNow on September 22, 2015, 04:28:17 AM

You cannot prove with Science the existence of God.

Which god?

Humans believe in thousands. Did you just happen to pick the right one? How can you be sure?

Actually, people believe in the same God. It is simply that they don't know enough about Him to realize that they are believing in the same God. He looks different the way various people describe Him.

There are also people who believe in the devil as God, and others who believe in people as gods, etc. But when they believe in God, they all believe in the same God.

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Quote from: Vod on September 22, 2015, 06:55:10 AM

Which god?

Humans believe in thousands. Did you just happen to pick the right one? How can you be sure?

God is one.
There is only one God.

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Quote from: BitNow on September 22, 2015, 04:28:17 AM

You cannot prove with Science the existence of God.

Which god?

Humans believe in thousands. Did you just happen to pick the right one? How can you be sure?

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Quote from: Uses on September 21, 2015, 10:16:28 PM

For however much strong evidence exists that there is a God, there is an equal amount of evidence to prove that God doesn't exist.

You cannot prove with Science the existence of God.

The existence of God is a Faith problem.

Quote from: MakingMoneyHoney on September 21, 2015, 11:25:30 PM

I'm not going to waste my time arguing about someone who takes their religious teachings from an "alien". I don't agree with you. Jesus saves us, and demons have to bow down to Him. We are not a god. Your teachings are not Christian.

May patience be with you.

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Quote from: BADecker on September 22, 2015, 01:03:58 AM

Obeying the law will save you if you obey it perfectly. You have not done so up until now. You will not do so in the future.

what the hell are you speaking ? who says what is perfect and what is not ?

Quote from: BADecker on September 22, 2015, 01:03:58 AM

There is only one person Who has obeyed the law perfectly. That is Jesus Christ. Since He has obeyed the law perfectly, He has the right to request and receive anything from His father... anything. He has requested you... if you believe on Him. He will not debase Himself below you. But He will take you with Him if you accept Him.

do you seriously know what you are saying ?

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Quote from: BADecker on September 22, 2015, 02:22:17 AM

Whatever taking responsibility for your own life means, the only way to participate in salvation, is to take the responsibility for yourself to believe in Jesus as your Savior.

You repeat this like it is propaganda, but you are 100% wrong;
Jesus said that all you have to do is love God and love your neighbor:
"There is none other commandment greater than these", "this do, and thou shalt live."

No one can follow the "New Commandment" of Jesus by just "sitting there". Life transforms with love, not laziness or mere "belief". He did not give any commandments that said "I am your personal savior", "believe that I am the Son of God or you will go to hell", or anything like that, so do not even bother with that for it is untruth. Jesus said you will live if you follow his New Commandment. You dare to contradict him?

My brother, you have to do the work and only YOU can turn YOUR LIFE around. This "savior" is a false teaching; you must "do what is true in the light, so that it may be clearly seen that your works have been carried out in God". It does nothing but encourage laziness when you claim that someone else has paid the price for your wicked deeds. If you care about his teachings, you will take his New Commandment to heart.

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Quote from: 1aguar on September 22, 2015, 01:14:13 AM

It is said that Christ loved us first, so he would not condemn me for trying to take responsibility for my own life. Jesus is the "standard for love", he came to show us the Christ way and that means that we must be responsible for our actions.
Christ is not a name, it is a state of goodness and emotional sanctity in accordance with the golden rule; no one can follow the "New Commandment" of Jesus by just "sitting there". Life transforms with love, not laziness. Christ is calling YOU, BADecker; give up your magical thinking and follow Jesus' New Commandment.

"There is none other commandment greater than these", "this do, and thou shalt live."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_New_Commandment#Interpretations

Whatever taking responsibility for your own life means, the only way to participate in salvation, is to take the responsibility for yourself to believe in Jesus as your Savior.

Is the word God a name of God? Not by what God says. Yet many people understand that "God" is the name of God, because they have so named Him. "Christ" has become an accepted name of Jesus. Not because Jesus said that it should be. But because people started calling Him by that Name. Originally it was Jesus the Christ, that is the Messiah.

Messiah means "anointed one." The Messiah of the Old Testament was expressed to be not only an anointed one, but one who saves. Jesus fills the description, and the fulfills the O.T. prophesies. Jesus is the Messiah, the Savior, the Christ.

In a construction job, there is a foreman who runs the show. The foreman is both a position and the guy that fills the position. Jesus is the Messiah, and also the guy who fills the Messiah position.

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It is said that Christ loved us first, so he would not condemn me for trying to take responsibility for my own life. Jesus is the "standard for love", he came to show us the Christ way and that means that we must be responsible for our actions.
Christ is not a name, it is a state of goodness and emotional sanctity in accordance with the golden rule; no one can follow the "New Commandment" of Jesus by just "sitting there". Life transforms with love, not laziness. Christ is calling YOU, BADecker; give up your magical thinking and follow Jesus' New Commandment.

"There is none other commandment greater than these", "this do, and thou shalt live."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_New_Commandment#Interpretations

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