Topic: Why do Atheists Hate Religion? - page 41. (Read 901370 times)

Math has been shown to deal with infinities once you achieve a deep enough fundamental understanding. Zeno's paradox held for over 2000 years and then we figured out calculus.

What Is the Answer to Zeno’s Paradox?
http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/science/2014/03/zeno_s_paradox_how_to_explain_the_solution_to_achilles_and_the_tortoise.html

Making a blatantly false generalization like that, once again, clearly demonstrates the pious fool that you are.

It's really hard to say what's actually plausible and what is not, we lack a lot of information, perhaps right now something that seems really crazy and not plausible it is in fact what happened.

Ask a silly question, get a silly answer

I do somewhat subscribe to the simulation theory... Like Elon Musk, I find it too plausible to disbelieve.  The Hindus and Buddhists have been saying similar for thousands of years, only they call it reincarnation

I find the idea of reincarnation more plausible than the idea that god created everyone with less than 100 years to find the correct religion or they spend eternity being tortured by an omnibenevolent god... the latter being a contradiction of an omnibenevolent god torturing souls for eternity, simply for making the wrong choice with limited/bad/contradictory information

How long is too long?  What percentage of eternity is 15 billion years?


I don't need to because you can't investigate it... similar to a video game, your video card only needs to process the objects which you can see... if you can't see it, it doesn't need any processing power


Yes, exactly like that.  Anything divided by itself = 1, and 0 divided or multiplied by anything is still 0


Not much these days, but those dimensions are not constants, space-time is expanding (or shrinking, depending on your perspective)


Time is an illusion, there is only now... now is a gift, we even call it "the present"


Of course... just like humans are working towards creating their own simulations, which will in turn create new simulations that will create newer simulations, ad infinitum

''The point that complexity shows is that only something like God can make such complexity'' Yeah? How does it show that exactly? ''We have no evidence of anything else that can do it'' How so? We have evidence that the big bang did it, we have no evidence that a god did it.

You and everyone else can continue to ask all kinds of questions about all kinds of things. So what?

The point that Neil Johnson is making is that we are so inadequate regarding understanding complexity, that there is no clear definition.

The point that complexity shows is that only something like God can make such complexity. We have no evidence of anything else that can do it. Do you want a description of God? You will get some of it in the resurrection... or by reading the bible.

No, you said '' By finding out how complex the universe is in every way.'' And I asked you, how complex is it? Is there a number to the complexity of it or are you just pulling it out of your ass? What are you defining complexity as?

 Neil Johnson states that "even among scientists, there is no unique definition of complexity – and the scientific notion has traditionally been conveyed using particular examples..." Ultimately Johnson adopts the definition of "complexity science" as "the study of the phenomena which emerge from a collection of interacting objects"

Do you think that scientists are not trying to keep a person alive in top health for 500 years or longer? Don't you realize that it is the complexity of nature and life that is thwarting them? Even the best that is offered by scientists and researchers in this single area, is still beat by nature in a few areas of the world... like the Hunza's, or the people of Vilcabamba, Ecuador, who drink of ancient, melting glacial mineral waters.

Nature has us beat for complexity all over the place.

''By finding out how complex the universe is in every way. '' When was this quantified? Is there a calculation of how complex the universe is? Can you tell us how complex the universe is then? From a scale of 0-100?

I don't have or own a TV.
I don't know what CMB you are referring to.

Science already found that God created the universe. How? By finding out how complex the universe is in every way. Whatever created the universe is God, just to be able to create such complexity. See the Scientific proof that God exists? thread - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/scientific-proof-that-god-exists-737322.

The answer to the question you didn't ask is... spending eternity doing the same thing is boring... life is not boring because, surprise!

If you have other questions for me, just ask  

Yeah, you are mentally challenged. You keep yelling your classic ''Except that nobody has proven that BB existed'' Except we have scientific evidence for it unlike god, yet you believe god exists and you don't believe the big bang happened, your mind doesn't work.

Except that nobody has proven that BB existed. But if they somehow do, all that they will be proving is that BB is God, and that it was God that created everything.

Back to religion again.

Then there is Big Bang, of course. Using a bare minimum of mathematical theorems, BB attempts to show how the universe came about from a big explosion. Yet it depends on other theory and ideas to explain how the complexity that we have in the universe could ever come about through an explosion.

Marvel Avengers movies do a better job of explaining the universe than BB.

''This is evident by the fact that the religions wouldn't exist if they had nonsense in them.'' Again with the logic of a 5 year old, so everything that exists has to make sense, there is nothing that has nonsense and exists right?

Get it right:

Science is religion because it has as much nonsense in it as any other religion. This is evident by the fact that the religions wouldn't exist if they had nonsense in them.

Get it right:

Religion = believing non sense when it's not scientifically proven to be true or even close to it.

Are religious people different than non-religious people? Yes and no.

No. They all breathe air. They all drink water. They all eat food. They all think and learn.

Yes. Religious people work diligently at things. Non-religious people don't.

It's in the definition of the word religion. See #6 and other parts of religion in the dictionary:
If an atheist hates religion, he isn't really hating religion. Why not? Hate is a very strong word. Hate is a point or matter of ethics or conscience, just like the dictionary definition says. This means that an atheist doesn't hate religion. If he did, he would stop hating. As it is, he is doing the exact thing that he purportedly is hating... if he hates religion.

If a so-called atheist hates religion, what he really hates is some form of violence, something that happened to him in early life, the fact that some people have more wealth than he does, perhaps an illness that he has, his own messed-up life in general, or any of a multitude of things that go on in life. But the fact that he hates, shows that he has a religion, because hate is tied to something that one believes in and follows devotedly... a revulsion towards something.

To suggest that an atheist hates religion is to suggest that an atheist hates himself. While this may be true in some cases, it generally isn't. More explanation is necessary. The difference lies in organized religion.

For example. There might be many atheists who hate the Jewish religion. The Jewish religion has a place of worship. They have formal scrolls and books of doctrine. They often know each other and practice their religious activities together. But the atheist hate religion doesn't do these things very often... although they are getting together more and more to do something with their hate religion these days. Their meeting place might be a Denny's restaurant conference room. They get to know each other. They actually write up plans how they are going to demonstrate against the Jews, etc.

The atheist hate religion is becoming more formal all the time.

The answer is simple: Atheists hate religion because religion is at the root of all inflicted injustices still ongoing, since the beginning of time. It is this very virus that has caused countless suffering and annihilation, spreading like a vicious cancer in its wake, infesting homo sapiens left and right into lethargic torpid zombies, feeding upon itself till exuberance of its toxicity has infiltrated and corrupted the very last pinnacles of homo sapientian civilizations.

But a thunderous shot across the bow has been heard in recent times. Religion has finally, after hellish millennia, been stunned, and nail after nail, with victorious force, have steadily been driven down into the coffin of this absolute ominous and abominous pest, with sustainable lasting results.

There is some [common] sense left in this cancerous environment, a antidote if you will. It is called Atheism. And nowadays Atheists have indeed grown into a formidable force of retribution, to eviscerate this cancerous plague called religion. Long live Atheism!