Topic: Why do Christians hate Atheists? - page 9. (Read 7430 times)

We just explained why you were wrong and you answer "statistics means nothing".

I can't really say we go much further, if statistics are useless it'll be hard to conclude anything on whole humanity...

Are you a robot?  Are you Marco Rubiobot 3000?

Nevermind... silly question... a robot would understand logic...

We don't know enough about God to suggest that He needed creating - I'm talking from a scientific viewpoint. However, the standard suggestion would be that He doesn't need creating. Here's how it works.

If you build a garage, you might be inside the garage part of the time that you are building it. Yet, you are never part of the garage (except if you accidentally nail your hand to a stud with the nail gun). Neither is God part of the universe He created.

Even if God is within the universe, He is never part of it. Why should He have to follow the laws of the universe? If He followed universe laws, he might become part of the universe a little. But such wouldn't necessitate that He exist completely according the laws of the universe.

While from a scientific standpoint, we might speculate that God might need a cause or reator, we have a long way to go to see if He does or not.

This is a horrible argument...

If nothing can come from something less complex, means that God must have created the universe... who created God?!?  You just said you need something more complex to create complexity... You can't use this to justify God's existence without using it to exclude the possibility of God...

This is known as the Infinite Regress fallacy




You should really stop saying that since nobody on the planet agrees with this statement... not even other Christians

If you state something as fact, and nobody agrees with your evidence or conclusion... You are wrong. Period. Full Stop.

Because there is no evidence in any of the complexity in the universe, that it comes from something less complex, we know that complexity must come from something at least as complex.

Since there is no complexity in the universe that we see coming from something equally complex, what is left?

Since we know that there is no real random because everything comes about by cause and effect, what is left?

The only thing that is left is that complexity comes from something more complex.

Science bears this out. Two people of opposite sex are more complex than one person. Why? The one person has only one sex. Even if the person is Bi, the two are still more complex than the one. Only less complexity comes from greater complexity.

Or take a car for example. The car is complex. But the people who made it are way more complex.

There are so extremely many of examples of less complexity coming from greater complexity, and no examples of greater complexity coming from lesser complexity, that this is a law of the universe... at least until someone proves it wrong. They need to start by finding even one example.

The complexity of the universe, and of the brain and mind of man, was made by greater complexity. And since man, complex as he is, barely knows how to extend life a little, the complexity that made life must be way beyond the complexity of man and the universe.

We can't even determine if the Big Bang is real. And you are trying to determine the cause of it?

At least science proves the existence of God, so we know He is real.

If the Big Bang happened to be real in some strange way, it would have to be God to produce the complexity that we see around us, using cause and effect that directs everything, especially in the face of the all-pervading entropy.

Generally Christians don't hate atheists. How can we tell? We can tell by the evangelizing that Christians do among atheists. Christians love atheists, and are trying to see that they get saved.

Look what you just asked. You asked about two different subjects. Do I always have to talk about the same subject? Are you the only one who can talk about more than one subject? How dense are you going to continue to prove that you are?

not just christians , all the religions hate atheists.. i dont understand their mindset..

Yabut, every time I post the laws behind the things I say, nobody counters the laws. They just say that I am wrong. You do the exact thing that you say I do, but you do it almost in everything that you say. At least I give the reason why I say what I say.

Bible uses laws to impose the best form of orderly freedom.

Atheism is the religion that imposes slavery.

Yeah but you know him, everytime we get to explain him how he's wrong he denies the last argument. He doesn't counter it, he just denies it. He says "no it doesn't work" and then go on ^^

yes and? You want to bring perticular case or we talk about average difference?

You talk like you think that people around the world are all the same. Where in the world do some of you people come up with the junk you talk. I know, I know. It is simply evidence of modern devolution in people. You jokers are getting worse than the Roman Catholic Church of the Middle Ages.