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Quote from: BADecker on April 06, 2015, 11:48:13 AM

Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on April 06, 2015, 11:43:47 AM

@BADecker: Please give me verses saying "be violent". Please don't take out-of-context verses. Because I couldn't find violent verses. Probably, in your language, self righteous.

Do Google search on "Islam violence" or "violence in Quran."

its up to you to stand your accusations and post buddy. put the quotes yourself.

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Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on April 06, 2015, 11:43:47 AM

@BADecker: Please give me verses saying "be violent". Please don't take out-of-context verses. Because I couldn't find violent verses. Probably, in your language, self righteous.

Do Google search on "Islam violence" or "violence in Quran."

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Of course not all Muslims are bad. Outside of the fact that all people are bad in some way, some Muslims are not bad. But then, you need to define what "bad" is. According to some parts of the Quran, a Muslim is bad if he doesn't terrorize and kill people of other religions who won't convert to Islam.

Where in Qur'an say that? Shocked

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He's trying to confuse others by playing with what the Quran said!

if you put a statement from somewhere. back it up with a quote and a link. ive been doing it since i posted

What? You have all this ability to find and use all kinds of stuff to contradict the clear statements that the Quran makes telling Muslims to be violent? But you don't have enough ability to look up Islamic violence in the Quran yourself.

More and more I am thinking that you are completely in the direction of total lying to to us infidels, just so that the whole bunch of you can gain as much of a foothold into our lives as you can... just so that murdering us will be easier for you later.

accusations should be backed by proof.. where in the Quraan it is said those words? the word violence does not even exist in the Quraan.

Perhaps you should read the Quran sometime. Kiss

read it over 200 times in arabic, english and french, i know approximately 16 chapters by heart. and i know my religion and my book more than you know the palm of your hand... perhaps YOU should read the book before making accusations

Since you say all this, you are certainly out to deceive us infidels, because the Quran definitely has a whole lot of violent verses that tell Muslims to be violent towards non-Muslims.

However, I want to thank you for making your deception clear in this way... even though it took this long, dragged-out way to do it.

All you non-Muslims out there, watch out for the Muslims. You can never tell which ones are ready to spring on you and kill you. Watch out for their trickery and deceit and lies.

show me the proof to your quotes and accusation buddy. thats all am asking

Why do you want me to show you something that you admit to knowing already because you have read it over 200 times?

Poor little Muslim. Life is so hard. Feel sorry for the Muslim. Then, all of a sudden he turns and attacks you, while you have tried to be a friend to him.

Watch out for the Muslims. They are people. Do no harm to them. But watch out because of the deceit in their hearts. It's the way of Islam towards infidels.

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@BADecker: Please give me verses saying "be violent". Please don't take out-of-context verses. Because I couldn't find violent verses. Probably, in your language, self righteous.

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Quote from: BADecker on April 06, 2015, 11:38:11 AM

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Of course not all Muslims are bad. Outside of the fact that all people are bad in some way, some Muslims are not bad. But then, you need to define what "bad" is. According to some parts of the Quran, a Muslim is bad if he doesn't terrorize and kill people of other religions who won't convert to Islam.

Where in Qur'an say that? Shocked

??

He's trying to confuse others by playing with what the Quran said!

if you put a statement from somewhere. back it up with a quote and a link. ive been doing it since i posted

What? You have all this ability to find and use all kinds of stuff to contradict the clear statements that the Quran makes telling Muslims to be violent? But you don't have enough ability to look up Islamic violence in the Quran yourself.

More and more I am thinking that you are completely in the direction of total lying to to us infidels, just so that the whole bunch of you can gain as much of a foothold into our lives as you can... just so that murdering us will be easier for you later.

accusations should be backed by proof.. where in the Quraan it is said those words? the word violence does not even exist in the Quraan.

Perhaps you should read the Quran sometime. Kiss

read it over 200 times in arabic, english and french, i know approximately 16 chapters by heart. and i know my religion and my book more than you know the palm of your hand... perhaps YOU should read the book before making accusations

Since you say all this, you are certainly out to deceive us infidels, because the Quran definitely has a whole lot of violent verses that tell Muslims to be violent towards non-Muslims.

However, I want to thank you for making your deception clear in this way... even though it took this long, dragged-out way to do it.

All you non-Muslims out there, watch out for the Muslims. You can never tell which ones are ready to spring on you and kill you. Watch out for their trickery and deceit and lies.

show me the proof to your quotes and accusation buddy. thats all am asking

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Quote from: Netpyder on April 06, 2015, 11:25:44 AM

Quote from: BADecker on April 06, 2015, 11:19:29 AM

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Quote from: BADecker on April 06, 2015, 11:13:24 AM

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Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on April 06, 2015, 10:41:13 AM

Quote from: BADecker on April 06, 2015, 10:31:39 AM

Of course not all Muslims are bad. Outside of the fact that all people are bad in some way, some Muslims are not bad. But then, you need to define what "bad" is. According to some parts of the Quran, a Muslim is bad if he doesn't terrorize and kill people of other religions who won't convert to Islam.

Where in Qur'an say that? Shocked

??

He's trying to confuse others by playing with what the Quran said!

if you put a statement from somewhere. back it up with a quote and a link. ive been doing it since i posted

What? You have all this ability to find and use all kinds of stuff to contradict the clear statements that the Quran makes telling Muslims to be violent? But you don't have enough ability to look up Islamic violence in the Quran yourself.

More and more I am thinking that you are completely in the direction of total lying to to us infidels, just so that the whole bunch of you can gain as much of a foothold into our lives as you can... just so that murdering us will be easier for you later.

accusations should be backed by proof.. where in the Quraan it is said those words? the word violence does not even exist in the Quraan.

Perhaps you should read the Quran sometime. Kiss

read it over 200 times in arabic, english and french, i know approximately 16 chapters by heart. and i know my religion and my book more than you know the palm of your hand... perhaps YOU should read the book before making accusations

Since you say all this, you are certainly out to deceive us infidels, because the Quran definitely has a whole lot of violent verses that tell Muslims to be violent towards non-Muslims.

However, I want to thank you for making your deception clear in this way... even though it took this long, dragged-out way to do it.

All you non-Muslims out there, watch out for the Muslims. You can never tell which ones are ready to spring on you and kill you. Watch out for their trickery and deceit and lies.

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Quote from: Spendulus on April 06, 2015, 11:24:07 AM

The links and footnotes should be clear from the Wikipedia.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zakir_Naik

However I will tell you this. Regarding "why does Islam hate" there is no need to look further than this Naik - and others like him.

Okay. I will take a look tomorrow. Now my internet is slow.

Look how you tell "Islam hates" because of some people's actions/words. This is were you need to change, friend! I believe one day you will understand this belief is wrong.

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Quote from: BADecker on April 06, 2015, 11:19:29 AM

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Quote from: BADecker on April 06, 2015, 10:31:39 AM

Of course not all Muslims are bad. Outside of the fact that all people are bad in some way, some Muslims are not bad. But then, you need to define what "bad" is. According to some parts of the Quran, a Muslim is bad if he doesn't terrorize and kill people of other religions who won't convert to Islam.

Where in Qur'an say that? Shocked

??

He's trying to confuse others by playing with what the Quran said!

if you put a statement from somewhere. back it up with a quote and a link. ive been doing it since i posted

What? You have all this ability to find and use all kinds of stuff to contradict the clear statements that the Quran makes telling Muslims to be violent? But you don't have enough ability to look up Islamic violence in the Quran yourself.

More and more I am thinking that you are completely in the direction of total lying to to us infidels, just so that the whole bunch of you can gain as much of a foothold into our lives as you can... just so that murdering us will be easier for you later.

accusations should be backed by proof.. where in the Quraan it is said those words? the word violence does not even exist in the Quraan.

Perhaps you should read the Quran sometime. Kiss

read it over 200 times in arabic, english and french, i know approximately 16 chapters by heart. and i know my religion and my book more than you know the palm of your hand... perhaps YOU should read the book before making accusations

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Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on April 06, 2015, 07:24:22 AM

Quote from: Spendulus on April 06, 2015, 06:58:11 AM

The link is to Wikipedia, and the footnotes there show the sources. If there is twisting it was not by me, in fact I show the man does a lot of twisting of words himself.

I do appreciate that he is not your role model, as from the Wikipedia entries I have the feeling of looking more at the words and thoughts of a politician than a true religious person.

Okay. It would have been better if you have mentioned it in the post and give direct reference link. Can you give the reference link or footnote number? Thank you!

The links and footnotes should be clear from the Wikipedia.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zakir_Naik

However I will tell you this. Regarding "why does Islam hate" there is no need to look further than this Naik - and others like him.

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Quote from: Netpyder on April 06, 2015, 11:16:36 AM

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Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on April 06, 2015, 10:41:13 AM

Quote from: BADecker on April 06, 2015, 10:31:39 AM

Of course not all Muslims are bad. Outside of the fact that all people are bad in some way, some Muslims are not bad. But then, you need to define what "bad" is. According to some parts of the Quran, a Muslim is bad if he doesn't terrorize and kill people of other religions who won't convert to Islam.

Where in Qur'an say that? Shocked

??

He's trying to confuse others by playing with what the Quran said!

if you put a statement from somewhere. back it up with a quote and a link. ive been doing it since i posted

What? You have all this ability to find and use all kinds of stuff to contradict the clear statements that the Quran makes telling Muslims to be violent? But you don't have enough ability to look up Islamic violence in the Quran yourself.

More and more I am thinking that you are completely in the direction of total lying to to us infidels, just so that the whole bunch of you can gain as much of a foothold into our lives as you can... just so that murdering us will be easier for you later.

accusations should be backed by proof.. where in the Quraan it is said those words? the word violence does not even exist in the Quraan.

Perhaps you should read the Quran sometime. Kiss

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Quote from: BADecker on April 06, 2015, 11:13:24 AM

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Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on April 06, 2015, 10:41:13 AM

Quote from: BADecker on April 06, 2015, 10:31:39 AM

Of course not all Muslims are bad. Outside of the fact that all people are bad in some way, some Muslims are not bad. But then, you need to define what "bad" is. According to some parts of the Quran, a Muslim is bad if he doesn't terrorize and kill people of other religions who won't convert to Islam.

Where in Qur'an say that? Shocked

??

He's trying to confuse others by playing with what the Quran said!

if you put a statement from somewhere. back it up with a quote and a link. ive been doing it since i posted

What? You have all this ability to find and use all kinds of stuff to contradict the clear statements that the Quran makes telling Muslims to be violent? But you don't have enough ability to look up Islamic violence in the Quran yourself.

More and more I am thinking that you are completely in the direction of total lying to to us infidels, just so that the whole bunch of you can gain as much of a foothold into our lives as you can... just so that murdering us will be easier for you later.

accusations should be backed by proof.. where in the Quraan it is said those words? the word violence does not even exist in the Quraan.

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Quote from: Netpyder on April 06, 2015, 10:57:29 AM

Quote from: DLCseller on April 06, 2015, 10:44:59 AM

Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on April 06, 2015, 10:41:13 AM

Quote from: BADecker on April 06, 2015, 10:31:39 AM

Of course not all Muslims are bad. Outside of the fact that all people are bad in some way, some Muslims are not bad. But then, you need to define what "bad" is. According to some parts of the Quran, a Muslim is bad if he doesn't terrorize and kill people of other religions who won't convert to Islam.

Where in Qur'an say that? Shocked

??

He's trying to confuse others by playing with what the Quran said!

if you put a statement from somewhere. back it up with a quote and a link. ive been doing it since i posted

What? You have all this ability to find and use all kinds of stuff to contradict the clear statements that the Quran makes telling Muslims to be violent? But you don't have enough ability to look up Islamic violence in the Quran yourself.

More and more I am thinking that you are completely in the direction of total lying to to us infidels, just so that the whole bunch of you can gain as much of a foothold into our lives as you can... just so that murdering us will be easier for you later.

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Quote from: DLCseller on April 06, 2015, 10:44:59 AM

Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on April 06, 2015, 10:41:13 AM

Quote from: BADecker on April 06, 2015, 10:31:39 AM

Of course not all Muslims are bad. Outside of the fact that all people are bad in some way, some Muslims are not bad. But then, you need to define what "bad" is. According to some parts of the Quran, a Muslim is bad if he doesn't terrorize and kill people of other religions who won't convert to Islam.

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Where in Qur'an say that? Shocked

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He's trying to confuse others by playing with what the Quran said!

if you put a statement from somewhere. back it up with a quote and a link. ive been doing it since i posted

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Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on April 06, 2015, 10:41:13 AM

Quote from: BADecker on April 06, 2015, 10:31:39 AM

Of course not all Muslims are bad. Outside of the fact that all people are bad in some way, some Muslims are not bad. But then, you need to define what "bad" is. According to some parts of the Quran, a Muslim is bad if he doesn't terrorize and kill people of other religions who won't convert to Islam.

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Where in Qur'an say that? Shocked

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He's trying to confuse others by playing with what the Quran said!

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Are Muslims wrong? I think the story gets written by journalists/governments in your own country. Over the centuries every religion or other group have been violent. Depending on the victor the story gets written.

I personally think the western countries are staged. It's starting to look like the hunger games. Western countries are being played by sports events and meaningless roles within the government. While third world countries burn if they make one step towards a more united civilization. Bread and circuses.

Not that it is important but I am not really religious. I'll see it when/if I see it.

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Quote from: BADecker on April 06, 2015, 10:31:39 AM

Of course not all Muslims are bad. Outside of the fact that all people are bad in some way, some Muslims are not bad. But then, you need to define what "bad" is. According to some parts of the Quran, a Muslim is bad if he doesn't terrorize and kill people of other religions who won't convert to Islam.

Where in Qur'an say that? Shocked

Quote from: BADecker on April 06, 2015, 10:31:39 AM

There are some relatively joyful and good Muslims, people who wouldn't hurt a fly, who are not very much into Islam at all, but think that saying the name "Allah" and calling themselves Muslim, makes them to be Islamic. They aren't any more Muslim than a groundhog on Tuesday.

So you are saying people who aren't much into Islam are good and almost all of the real Muslims are bad?

Quote from: BADecker on April 06, 2015, 10:31:39 AM

I enjoy that "Maybe."

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I enjoy your "Maybe."

I don't know what's the meaning of these but I am taking positive meaning. Hope you did the same.

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Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on April 06, 2015, 10:19:19 AM

Quote from: DLCseller on April 06, 2015, 10:15:42 AM

Awhh c'mon! This might have a thing to do with Illuminati! Im a Muslim and I stand against terrorism!

They don't care. They just want to attack Islam and that's the truth.

Well, the End is near my friend.I wish this people will be guide to the straight path by Allah and they shall know who is their real God.

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Quote from: Netpyder on April 06, 2015, 10:26:39 AM

if Islam = Terrorist, if Islam = suicide bombing, wage war, rape

if Islam were all those eastern media statements..

we would be 1.5 billion people walking with bomb suit and jackets and explosion would have happened every minute.

you are very misinformed.

Islam is a religion of peace.

The actions of individuals cannot be blamed upon their religion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzusSqcotDw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ibKWVTFSak
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xtMbxXBJ9w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGgeJ1wgwuc

have the decency to spend couple of your time to watch those.

Most of the peaceful Muslims are:
1. not near enough to any non-Muslims to damage them;
2. a little fearful for their own safety just like any violent people are to some extent;
3. saying they are Muslim, but don't know enough about Islam to realize that they are not.

So they look like peaceful Muslims, but they aren't.

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Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on April 06, 2015, 10:18:44 AM

Quote from: BADecker on April 06, 2015, 10:12:12 AM

You talk funny.

There are over a billion Muslims - or, at least, people who claim that they are Muslim. In the past, there have been at least a billion Muslims who have lived and died - probably several billion over the years since Islam's start. And you have been to visit all the Muslims over all that time to make sure they never did any of this stuff? What, Allah told you? Sounds to me like you are out there trying to sell Islam, while behind the scenes you are supporting Islamic violence even if you are not personally violent. This means that you are as bad as any Muslim terrorist.

Maybe.

So you are telling if some muslims did bad things all are bad? I can show you many christians who did bad things and I can say christians are bad if I want but I won't because that belief is wrong.

Also, you missed the point. painlord2k was clearly saying about prohpet Jesus and Muhammad.

I enjoy that "Maybe."

Of course not all Muslims are bad. Outside of the fact that all people are bad in some way, some Muslims are not bad. But then, you need to define what "bad" is. According to some parts of the Quran, a Muslim is bad if he doesn't terrorize and kill people of other religions who won't convert to Islam.

There are some relatively joyful and good Muslims, people who wouldn't hurt a fly, who are not very much into Islam at all, but think that saying the name "Allah" and calling themselves Muslim, makes them to be Islamic. They aren't any more Muslim than a groundhog on Tuesday.

I enjoy your "Maybe."

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if Islam = Terrorist, if Islam = suicide bombing, wage war, rape

if Islam were all those eastern media statements..

we would be 1.5 billion people walking with bomb suit and jackets and explosion would have happened every minute.

you are very misinformed.

Islam is a religion of peace.

The actions of individuals cannot be blamed upon their religion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzusSqcotDw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ibKWVTFSak
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xtMbxXBJ9w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGgeJ1wgwuc

have the decency to spend couple of your time to watch those.

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