Awhh c'mon! This might have a thing to do with Illuminati! Im a Muslim and I stand against terrorism!
They don't care. They just want to attack Islam and that's the truth.
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They don't care. They just want to attack Islam and that's the truth.
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You talk funny.
There are over a billion Muslims - or, at least, people who claim that they are Muslim. In the past, there have been at least a billion Muslims who have lived and died - probably several billion over the years since Islam's start. And you have been to visit all the Muslims over all that time to make sure they never did any of this stuff? What, Allah told you? Sounds to me like you are out there trying to sell Islam, while behind the scenes you are supporting Islamic violence even if you are not personally violent. This means that you are as bad as any Muslim terrorist.
There are over a billion Muslims - or, at least, people who claim that they are Muslim. In the past, there have been at least a billion Muslims who have lived and died - probably several billion over the years since Islam's start. And you have been to visit all the Muslims over all that time to make sure they never did any of this stuff? What, Allah told you? Sounds to me like you are out there trying to sell Islam, while behind the scenes you are supporting Islamic violence even if you are not personally violent. This means that you are as bad as any Muslim terrorist.
Maybe.
So you are telling if some muslims did bad things all are bad? I can show you many christians who did bad things and I can say christians are bad if I want but I won't because that belief is wrong.
Also, you missed the point. painlord2k was clearly saying about prohpet Jesus and Muhammad.
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Now, for the reader, look at what, in their holy books, Jesus did and Muhammad did.
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Now, for the reader, look at what, in their holy books, Jesus did and Muhammad did.
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Repeat: I kindly request you to reas before posting. You are reading but not fully/correctly.
thank you! 
Awhh c'mon! This might have a thing to do with Illuminati! Im a Muslim and I stand against terrorism!
Wage war?
Get more details please. If you check details, you will see enemies of Islam were trying to wage war not Muslims.
Capturing, selling slaves?
Islam abolished slave trade after abolishing harsh things done by non-muslims to their slaves.
Raping women?
No prophet has done this.
Torture?
Muhammad(PBUH) or Swahabas didn't do this.
Lying?
Muhammad even heard a nickname "Al-ameen".
Robbing people?
Study rules of war.
Plundering caravans and villages?
Look more details and see what it actually was.
Sending killers to kill women, old men, in the night?[/b][/color]
What do you mean? There wasn't an incident like this.
You talk funny.
There are over a billion Muslims - or, at least, people who claim that they are Muslim. In the past, there have been at least a billion Muslims who have lived and died - probably several billion over the years since Islam's start. And you have been to visit all the Muslims over all that time to make sure they never did any of this stuff? What, Allah told you? Sounds to me like you are out there trying to sell Islam, while behind the scenes you are supporting Islamic violence even if you are not personally violent. This means that you are as bad as any Muslim terrorist.
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The link is to Wikipedia, and the footnotes there show the sources. If there is twisting it was not by me, in fact I show the man does a lot of twisting of words himself.
I do appreciate that he is not your role model, as from the Wikipedia entries I have the feeling of looking more at the words and thoughts of a politician than a true religious person.
I do appreciate that he is not your role model, as from the Wikipedia entries I have the feeling of looking more at the words and thoughts of a politician than a true religious person.
Okay. It would have been better if you have mentioned it in the post and give direct reference link. Can you give the reference link or footnote number? Thank you!
There are people of every religion that hate others. Hate is not a religious item so the truth lies in the beholder. You should not associate ones hate with their religion, but by their actions.
True, and I don't think that it is the religion that hates people, it is people (not all, but many) who ain't filling the correct knowledge into their listeners' minds due to which all this is being carried on...
There are people of every religion that hate others. Hate is not a religious item so the truth lies in the beholder. You should not associate ones hate with their religion, but by their actions.
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Wage war?
Get more details please. If you check details, you will see enemies of Islam were trying to wage war not Muslims.
Capturing, selling slaves?
Islam abolished slave trade after abolishing harsh things done by non-muslims to their slaves.
Raping women?
No prophet has done this.
Torture?
Muhammad(PBUH) or Swahabas didn't do this.
Lying?
Muhammad even heard a nickname "Al-ameen".
Robbing people?
Study rules of war.
Plundering caravans and villages?
Look more details and see what it actually was.
Sending killers to kill women, old men, in the night?[/b][/color]
What do you mean? There wasn't an incident like this.
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Islam(ists) != Islam
Christ(ians) != Christ-like
Welcome to basic math. May I introduce you to basic logic?
Christ(ians) != Christ-like
Welcome to basic math. May I introduce you to basic logic?
Now I am really confused about the train of thoughts around here
There should be no confusion. Your thread "Why islam hates people" has been hijacked and derailed by a couple of pro-Islamic fundamentalist evangelicals, who claim anyone that posts anything is an "Islam hater."The main tactic consists of ducking and dodging the question of the OP, "Why Islam hates people" and then quoting scripture and claiming it is righteous. Pretty much the same as Christian evangelicals, if somewhat cruder in technique and interspersed with the righteousness of stoning, cutting off arms and legs, and other fascinated bits of righteousness, interwoven between shoutouts that ...
"Islam is the religion of Peace!"
I had not wanted to sound so directly crude... I had wanted to give the benefit of the doubt... and I still want to give the benefit of the doubt to Muslims who are barely Muslim... those who don't understand the finer points of Islam, and, therefore, aren't really Muslim at heart... but I guess I am forced to get to the heart of the matter which is... when one aligns himself/herself extremely much with a religion, he/she becomes that religion.
The title of the thread, "Why do islam hates people?" is born out in some Muslims who have become Islam. This doesn't answer the question, but it shows what happens when one becomes profoundly and deeply Muslim. Here it is:
http://biblehub.com/1_john/2-2.htm
so to recap,
if Jesus paid for the sin of the whole mankind. and that Christianity is the only true religion.. i would love to put a bullet in your brain
so to recap,
if Jesus paid for the sin of the whole mankind. and that Christianity is the only true religion.. i would love to put a bullet in your brain
"Islam is the religion of Peace?
?"Some have an opposite point of view, quite obviously.
Government wants us to have freedom of speech so that they can find out what is on our hearts.
Samesaid Islam.
Our government uses our free speech to try to determine how to keep peace in the country.
Islam uses it to find out who they are going to target next.
Now I am really confused about the train of thoughts around here
There should be no confusion. Your thread "Why islam hates people" has been hijacked and derailed by a couple of pro-Islamic fundamentalist evangelicals, who claim anyone that posts anything is an "Islam hater."The main tactic consists of ducking and dodging the question of the OP, "Why Islam hates people" and then quoting scripture and claiming it is righteous. Pretty much the same as Christian evangelicals, if somewhat cruder in technique and interspersed with the righteousness of stoning, cutting off arms and legs, and other fascinated bits of righteousness, interwoven between shoutouts that ...
"Islam is the religion of Peace!"
I had not wanted to sound so directly crude... I had wanted to give the benefit of the doubt... and I still want to give the benefit of the doubt to Muslims who are barely Muslim... those who don't understand the finer points of Islam, and, therefore, aren't really Muslim at heart... but I guess I am forced to get to the heart of the matter which is... when one aligns himself/herself extremely much with a religion, he/she becomes that religion.
The title of the thread, "Why do islam hates people?" is born out in some Muslims who have become Islam. This doesn't answer the question, but it shows what happens when one becomes profoundly and deeply Muslim. Here it is:
http://biblehub.com/1_john/2-2.htm
so to recap,
if Jesus paid for the sin of the whole mankind. and that Christianity is the only true religion.. i would love to put a bullet in your brain
so to recap,
if Jesus paid for the sin of the whole mankind. and that Christianity is the only true religion.. i would love to put a bullet in your brain
"Islam is the religion of Peace?
?"Some have an opposite point of view, quite obviously.
Easy to make fun of people not dividing your head from your shoulders.
The difference between Islam and other religions is pretty simple to explain:
1) In Christianity you are suppose to imitate the behavior of Jesus as much as any mortal could do.
2) In Islam you are supposed to follow the example of Mohammed as much as any mortal could do.
Now, for the reader, look at what, in their holy books, Jesus did and Muhammad did.
Wage war?
Capturing, selling slaves?
Raping women?
Torture?
Lying?
Robbing people?
Plundering caravans and villages?
Sending killers to kill women, old men, in the night?
Flogging merchants in the house of his father?
The difference between Islam and other religions is pretty simple to explain:
1) In Christianity you are suppose to imitate the behavior of Jesus as much as any mortal could do.
2) In Islam you are supposed to follow the example of Mohammed as much as any mortal could do.
Now, for the reader, look at what, in their holy books, Jesus did and Muhammad did.
Wage war?
Capturing, selling slaves?
Raping women?
Torture?
Lying?
Robbing people?
Plundering caravans and villages?
Sending killers to kill women, old men, in the night?
Flogging merchants in the house of his father?
Are you saying this is what they did, or what they didn't do?
Red is what Muhammad did.
Green is what Jesus did, and the reason He resorted to violence the two times He did it was to show the importance of reserving the House of God for a place of prayer, rather than make it a den of robbers like Muhammad would have if he were there.
All this never happened. you are severely misinformed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2I33k8vV3Sk
Latest from "The Religion of Peace."
2015.04.05 (Kayamla, Nigeria) - Islamists raid a local market, kill four trader and take their food for the cause of Allah.
2015.04.05 (Misrata, Libya) - A woman and two children are among six innocents laid out by a Shahid suicide bomber.
2015.04.03 (Nalagonda, India) - Students Islamic Movement of India members gun down a local cop.
2015.04.03 (Logar, Afghanistan) - Four children and two women are among a family of seven disassembled by Religion of Peace bombers.
2015.04.03 (Sinai, Egypt) - Three civilians are murdered by a branch of the Islamic State.
2015.04.03 (Dera Ismail Khan, Pakistan) - Sunni extremists gun down two people outside a children's hospital.
Have you noticed how the American petrodollar oil government is sending troops into Middle East countries after oil? The American government found out by trial and error that showing a bunch of violent movies at movie theaters and on TV couldn't make the people violent enough to fight the Muslims. So, what is America Big Oil doing? They are importing Muslims to America just to show Americans how to be violent enough to fight Muslims in the Middle East.
Movies and TV couldn't produce enough violence. Even Navy Seals couldn't be violent enough. America is now importing the source of violence... Islam.
Movies and TV couldn't produce enough violence. Even Navy Seals couldn't be violent enough. America is now importing the source of violence... Islam.
Easy to make fun of people not dividing your head from your shoulders.
The difference between Islam and other religions is pretty simple to explain:
1) In Christianity you are suppose to imitate the behavior of Jesus as much as any mortal could do.
2) In Islam you are supposed to follow the example of Mohammed as much as any mortal could do.
Now, for the reader, look at what, in their holy books, Jesus did and Muhammad did.
Wage war?
Capturing, selling slaves?
Raping women?
Torture?
Lying?
Robbing people?
Plundering caravans and villages?
Sending killers to kill women, old men, in the night?
Flogging merchants in the house of his father?
The difference between Islam and other religions is pretty simple to explain:
1) In Christianity you are suppose to imitate the behavior of Jesus as much as any mortal could do.
2) In Islam you are supposed to follow the example of Mohammed as much as any mortal could do.
Now, for the reader, look at what, in their holy books, Jesus did and Muhammad did.
Wage war?
Capturing, selling slaves?
Raping women?
Torture?
Lying?
Robbing people?
Plundering caravans and villages?
Sending killers to kill women, old men, in the night?
Flogging merchants in the house of his father?
Are you saying this is what they did, or what they didn't do?
Red is what Muhammad did.
Green is what Jesus did, and the reason He resorted to violence the two times He did it was to show the importance of reserving the House of God for a place of prayer, rather than make it a den of robbers like Muhammad would have if he were there.
All this never happened. you are severely misinformed.
Easy to make fun of people not dividing your head from your shoulders.
The difference between Islam and other religions is pretty simple to explain:
1) In Christianity you are suppose to imitate the behavior of Jesus as much as any mortal could do.
2) In Islam you are supposed to follow the example of Mohammed as much as any mortal could do.
Now, for the reader, look at what, in their holy books, Jesus did and Muhammad did.
Wage war?
Capturing, selling slaves?
Raping women?
Torture?
Lying?
Robbing people?
Plundering caravans and villages?
Sending killers to kill women, old men, in the night?
Flogging merchants in the house of his father?
The difference between Islam and other religions is pretty simple to explain:
1) In Christianity you are suppose to imitate the behavior of Jesus as much as any mortal could do.
2) In Islam you are supposed to follow the example of Mohammed as much as any mortal could do.
Now, for the reader, look at what, in their holy books, Jesus did and Muhammad did.
Wage war?
Capturing, selling slaves?
Raping women?
Torture?
Lying?
Robbing people?
Plundering caravans and villages?
Sending killers to kill women, old men, in the night?
Flogging merchants in the house of his father?
Are you saying this is what they did, or what they didn't do?
Red is what Muhammad did.
Green is what Jesus did, and the reason He resorted to violence the two times He did it was to show the importance of reserving the House of God for a place of prayer, rather than make it a den of robbers like Muhammad would have if he were there.
Easy to make fun of people not dividing your head from your shoulders.
The difference between Islam and other religions is pretty simple to explain:
1) In Christianity you are suppose to imitate the behavior of Jesus as much as any mortal could do.
2) In Islam you are supposed to follow the example of Mohammed as much as any mortal could do.
Now, for the reader, look at what, in their holy books, Jesus did and Muhammad did.
Wage war?
Capturing, selling slaves?
Raping women?
Torture?
Lying?
Robbing people?
Plundering caravans and villages?
Sending killers to kill women, old men, in the night?
Flogging merchants in the house of his father?
The difference between Islam and other religions is pretty simple to explain:
1) In Christianity you are suppose to imitate the behavior of Jesus as much as any mortal could do.
2) In Islam you are supposed to follow the example of Mohammed as much as any mortal could do.
Now, for the reader, look at what, in their holy books, Jesus did and Muhammad did.
Wage war?
Capturing, selling slaves?
Raping women?
Torture?
Lying?
Robbing people?
Plundering caravans and villages?
Sending killers to kill women, old men, in the night?
Flogging merchants in the house of his father?
Are you saying this is what they did, or what they didn't do?
Now I am really confused about the train of thoughts around here
There should be no confusion. Your thread "Why islam hates people" has been hijacked and derailed by a couple of pro-Islamic fundamentalist evangelicals, who claim anyone that posts anything is an "Islam hater."The main tactic consists of ducking and dodging the question of the OP, "Why Islam hates people" and then quoting scripture and claiming it is righteous. Pretty much the same as Christian evangelicals, if somewhat cruder in technique and interspersed with the righteousness of stoning, cutting off arms and legs, and other fascinated bits of righteousness, interwoven between shoutouts that ...
"Islam is the religion of Peace!"
I had not wanted to sound so directly crude... I had wanted to give the benefit of the doubt... and I still want to give the benefit of the doubt to Muslims who are barely Muslim... those who don't understand the finer points of Islam, and, therefore, aren't really Muslim at heart... but I guess I am forced to get to the heart of the matter which is... when one aligns himself/herself extremely much with a religion, he/she becomes that religion.
The title of the thread, "Why do islam hates people?" is born out in some Muslims who have become Islam. This doesn't answer the question, but it shows what happens when one becomes profoundly and deeply Muslim. Here it is:
http://biblehub.com/1_john/2-2.htm
so to recap,
if Jesus paid for the sin of the whole mankind. and that Christianity is the only true religion.. i would love to put a bullet in your brain
so to recap,
if Jesus paid for the sin of the whole mankind. and that Christianity is the only true religion.. i would love to put a bullet in your brain
"Islam is the religion of Peace?
?"It does not make the matter less crude to restate "To cut off hands or feet and to stone to death ONLY as the Quran spells out, as Mohammed laid down (peace be to him)", sorry that does not fly.
It is the same savagery, brutality and medieval stupidity whether done by a New Guinea native in the jungle or in a modern city.
Some of it is genetics. Many Muslims are genetically predisposed to hate and violence. They take it from their accredited and acclaimed ancestor, Ishmael, Genesis 16: 11,12:
Quote
The angel of the LORD also said to her [Hagar]:
“You are now with child and you will have a son. You shall name him Ishmael for the LORD has heard of your misery. He will be a wild donkey of a man; his hand will be against everyone and everyone’s hand against him, and he will live in hostility toward all his brothers.”
“You are now with child and you will have a son. You shall name him Ishmael for the LORD has heard of your misery. He will be a wild donkey of a man; his hand will be against everyone and everyone’s hand against him, and he will live in hostility toward all his brothers.”
Another part is that religion can be a strong motivator. And when you have a religion of violence as your motivator, it finally turns you towards hate.
Most people are rather loving, at least in part. When your religion says that you are supposed to be violent, you naturally do not want to be if you don't have to. The only way to overcome this conflict within yourself is to become hateful. The hate buries the natural love that you have in your heart, so that you can do the violence required by the religion.
By far the larger part of the Islamic world is not predisposed towards violence... mostly because they are not informed about much of their religion. If they were, the rest of the world would have to get up and destroy them all just to have peace.
Now I am really confused about the train of thoughts around here
There should be no confusion. Your thread "Why islam hates people" has been hijacked and derailed by a couple of pro-Islamic fundamentalist evangelicals, who claim anyone that posts anything is an "Islam hater."The main tactic consists of ducking and dodging the question of the OP, "Why Islam hates people" and then quoting scripture and claiming it is righteous. Pretty much the same as Christian evangelicals, if somewhat cruder in technique and interspersed with the righteousness of stoning, cutting off arms and legs, and other fascinated bits of righteousness, interwoven between shoutouts that ...
"Islam is the religion of Peace!"
I had not wanted to sound so directly crude... I had wanted to give the benefit of the doubt... and I still want to give the benefit of the doubt to Muslims who are barely Muslim... those who don't understand the finer points of Islam, and, therefore, aren't really Muslim at heart... but I guess I am forced to get to the heart of the matter which is... when one aligns himself/herself extremely much with a religion, he/she becomes that religion.
The title of the thread, "Why do islam hates people?" is born out in some Muslims who have become Islam. This doesn't answer the question, but it shows what happens when one becomes profoundly and deeply Muslim. Here it is:
http://biblehub.com/1_john/2-2.htm
so to recap,
if Jesus paid for the sin of the whole mankind. and that Christianity is the only true religion.. i would love to put a bullet in your brain
so to recap,
if Jesus paid for the sin of the whole mankind. and that Christianity is the only true religion.. i would love to put a bullet in your brain
"Islam is the religion of Peace?
?"It does not make the matter less crude to restate "To cut off hands or feet and to stone to death ONLY as the Quran spells out, as Mohammed laid down (peace be to him)", sorry that does not fly.
It is the same savagery, brutality and medieval stupidity whether done by a New Guinea native in the jungle or in a modern city.
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