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legendary
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September 26, 2023, 11:12:24 AM
#90
°Strays and Non-strays:  some people it's in their nature just to be moving from one campaign to another without a reason, it's not for pay rate, number of weekly posts count, or posting boards restrictions but it's just in their nature to stray from campaign to another I wonder if they are looking for recognition or something else.

This is the strangest reason I have come across why people are switching the campaign??? They won't get recognition if they move from campaign to campaign. Also what sort of nature it is that it compels to move to different campaigns without any reason  Shocked

I would call them "sick" who would like to change campaigns and they have no reason for these switches.
hero member
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September 26, 2023, 10:32:51 AM
#89
But what I really don't like is when the user changed/switched campaign without notice or without letting the manager that they are accepted in other campaign and you will only notice that they switched campaign when you check their profile that they are not wearing the signature and avatar when checking. I think that was a big disrespect for any manager and not just for me.
It's not just disrespect, it could be considered scamming. The user made a deal with the campaign, and leaving unannounced is like taking another job IRL and still expecting payment from your old job.

I do not think that those who leave without notifying will want to get payment from the previous campaign too as it is obvious that the campaign manager will check the signatures while counting the posts.


As far am myself is concerned, I would never want to change my campaign even if any other better paying campaign starts on the forum. The reason is that once you are with a certain campaign for a long time, you tend to develop an affiliation with the campaign and you would not want to switch campaigns often.
hero member
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September 26, 2023, 09:55:16 AM
#88
There are many factors to why people move from one campaign to another and also why some other stay longer in one campaign.

° The  campaign manager: The nature of the CM on how he handles his signature campaign has a lot to do with why participants under his campaign will choose to remain there for as long as possible or move within the shortest time. Sometimes the assurance participants get not to be kicked out of a campaign by the manager overnight as it's not the nature of such manager is one factor that keeps participants so long in a campaign not minding the pay rate.

°The payment rate and post count: pay rates in a campaign entices people here in the forum alot and nobody would deny they don't like working in an establishment with a higher pay while the workload is not that much compared to where so much is expected of you but without a commensurable pay rate to that expectations.

°Some boards restrictions in a campaign : Some  signature campaigns restricts participants from posting in boards like B&H, while some restricts gambling boards posts and this is because of the type of services these projects offers therefore any posts made there will not count for the week. And if a participants isn't comfortable with him not posting in gambling boards he won't hesitate applying in another new campaign that allows gambling posts because that is where he's posting strength mainly lies.

°Strays and Non-strays:  some people it's in their nature just to be moving from one campaign to another without a reason, it's not for pay rate, number of weekly posts count, or posting boards restrictions but it's just in their nature to stray from campaign to another I wonder if they are looking for recognition or something else.

While for some they just decide to stay at a place in as much as they ain't being chased away by the campaign manager or the campaign didn't end they are cool with their spot.

In conclusion, even as it's no crime moving from one campaign to another it is irresponsible, immature and fickle for an individual to be doing so within a shortest frame of just a week in a campaign.
hero member
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September 23, 2023, 03:25:49 PM
#87
As much as I could agree to pursue higher paying campaigns, i see it as greed too, sometimes i see some members just got selected in a campaign barely a week long and then a new campaign comes out that pays slightly higher than their newly joined campaign they will still apply regardless.

If it was up to me, I will not be selecting any bounty whore in my campaign because Bms put time and effort into selecting their desired participants in these campaigns and sadly majority only pursue the highest paying and are not too concerned with rendering the needed service. Participants of long-term paying campaigns with low paying rates deserve a round of applause because they understand the difference between jumping from one campaign to the other and appreciating the opportunity of getting paid long-term.  
legendary
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September 20, 2023, 03:04:03 PM
#86
But what I really don't like is when the user changed/switched campaign without notice or without letting the manager that they are accepted in other campaign and you will only notice that they switched campaign when you check their profile that they are not wearing the signature and avatar when checking. I think that was a big disrespect for any manager and not just for me.
It's not just disrespect, it could be considered scamming. The user made a deal with the campaign, and leaving unannounced is like taking another job IRL and still expecting payment from your old job.
It could be both, depends case by case basis. I'm not sure how often cases when user get paid from 2 campaigns on same week, but probably such things happens. But I think that in most cases it's just disrespect for manager and showing bad etiquette. Is it really so difficult to drop PM to manager that you're leaving?
legendary
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September 20, 2023, 02:59:23 AM
#85
But what I really don't like is when the user changed/switched campaign without notice or without letting the manager that they are accepted in other campaign and you will only notice that they switched campaign when you check their profile that they are not wearing the signature and avatar when checking. I think that was a big disrespect for any manager and not just for me.
It's not just disrespect, it could be considered scamming. The user made a deal with the campaign, and leaving unannounced is like taking another job IRL and still expecting payment from your old job.
sr. member
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September 19, 2023, 11:44:07 PM
#84
This is actually a good topic. As a campaign manager I noticed that too, weekly I encounter a user that applied to other campaign although they are currently enrolled to the campaign (not changing campaign) but I know that when they accepted to that campaign they will leave the current campaign. In my assumption there are actually a lot of possibilities why they do this including:

  • Reward difference but most likely the rewards are the same.
  • The new campaign is new and would probably run for a long time and so it's better to leave the current one to ensure that they will will have stable in come in the next coming weeks/months.

We are really not sure about the reason and we really can't do anything about it

But what I really don't like is when the user changed/switched campaign without notice or without letting the manager that they are accepted in other campaign and you will only notice that they switched campaign when you check their profile that they are not wearing the signature and avatar when checking. I think that was a big disrespect for any manager and not just for me.
legendary
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September 16, 2023, 10:40:19 AM
#83
Best_change is one of the most sought after campaigns because it does not limit you to posting in boards that you may not particularly go to post in if you didn't have a requirement to. It is easy to boast about sticking to your beliefs when you have sat in arguably the two best campaigns in the forum. I am sure if everyone was entered into the BestChange campaign, gambling board posts would reduce by 90% and business would eventually shrivel up there.

Unfortunately, casinos have a financial grip over the forum, driving good businesses like BestChange out of the market of funding new posters.

Maybe you didn't look in detail, but Bestchange is one of the more demanding campaigns. For example:

- Don't spam. Post made after page 5 we usually consider as spam. We can accept no more than 10% posts of the weekly post quota (for example, 2-3 of 25), if posts are written after page 5.
- For the record, we will not count posts in the games and rounds section, Archival, Local, off-topic, politics and society, Signature and Bounty campaigns. Posts in these threads and boards where the Signature is not displayed will not be counted as eligible.
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- We recommend avoiding topics with sensitive political agendas, in particular, the situation surrounding Russia and Ukraine these days. Since we, as a business, take up a neutral status,

For many users, it is not easy to write up to 5 pages or outside the local board.
Otherwise, the payment rate in this campaign is better than any gambling signature campaign, along with the longevity, it can be said that BestChange has no problem with gambling campaigns.
legendary
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September 16, 2023, 10:00:59 AM
#82
I can answer you as I’m the member who moved after 3 years, personally I still feel grateful to BESTCHANGE and I created an alternative account to promote them for free (as an expression of my gratitude( but over time you want to go on a new deal and that's what I did.

I do not think that this post is formed because of you because you are one of the most loyal campaign promoters in the forum. 3years is not 3 months and on leaving Best_Change you created an account that will continue to promote Best_Change. Although, I doubt how fast you can grow the account, but your loyalty is proven.

As for the reason that I did not do that before, it is because most of the campaigns during 2020 to 2023 were gambling campaigns, casinos, or loans, and these three things I do not like, and I have almost 0% posts in the gambling section during the 6 years I spent here.

In 2020, I was in a CHIPMIXER campaign, and from there I moved to BESTCHANGE, and perhaps after the disappearance of CHIPMIXER, more mixers campaigns appeared, so I moved.

I haven't seen of recent where people promote projects according to their belief. Before now some person's will not promote gambling companies no matter how much they pay. These days, there are a few of such people, as people are willing to promote any project for money.

One may not support gambling, that doesn't mean one is supporting them by taking payment for the pixel space. It's an advertising deal, not the leasing of ones soul or moral beliefs.

I for one, am very objective toward casinos due to so many complaints against them. I trust my campaign manager to pick the safest options out of all of the junk in the gambling board. I post with no support of the gambling industry unless I'm providing genuine feedback. I only mention casino names when complaints are present. I respect the campaign provider. I do not join campaigns with companies I know to have many valid open complaints.

Therefore, while one may not be a gambling proponent, the advertiser still gets the exposure they desire.

As for the reason that I did not do that before, it is because most of the campaigns during 2020 to 2023 were gambling campaigns, casinos, or loans, and these three things I do not like, and I have almost 0% posts in the gambling section during the 6 years I spent here.

In 2020, I was in a CHIPMIXER campaign, and from there I moved to BESTCHANGE, and perhaps after the disappearance of CHIPMIXER, more mixers campaigns appeared, so I moved.

Best_change is one of the most sought after campaigns because it does not limit you to posting in boards that you may not particularly go to post in if you didn't have a requirement to. It is easy to boast about sticking to your beliefs when you have sat in arguably the two best campaigns in the forum. I am sure if everyone was entered into the BestChange campaign, gambling board posts would reduce by 90% and business would eventually shrivel up there.

Unfortunately, casinos have a financial grip over the forum, driving good businesses like BestChange out of the market of funding new posters.
hero member
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- Leo -
September 15, 2023, 02:48:45 PM
#81
I thought money is not your consideration, so why you are making sure that your post exceeds to your quota? The logic behind is because some threads or replies can get deleted and if we only post 25 per week (most sig campaigns minimum) we can get short and we may not get paid. You also ensure that you are in a reputable campaign manager so that you can always get paid.
None of these you have said indicates that money is the sole purpose of that user posting here. Some people enjoy discussions here and will freely join them with as much free time as they have, being in a signature campaign just means you make up some more free time for yourself and not that you discuss at an unnatural level to fulfill the requirement. Real life activities can many times affect that and influence how active we are on the forum but in the end it is something you plan to make out time for when you apply to help promote a brand.

Making above the maximum, or below it, or exactly it does not alone indicate a user is here just for the payment, what is most important is the quality of the contribution that the user is making.

We always need to be on time to have a better chance of being accepted.
You do not need to apply early to have a better chance, as long as you apply before applications are closed you have an equal chance to be chosen.

- Jay -
copper member
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September 15, 2023, 08:23:33 AM
#80
I remember leaving one campaign because of a reputation issue, Other than that money is not my consideration not even the number of posts I exceed my post quota sometimes, I just want to be in a campaign where the project I'm promoting is reputable the manager managing the campaign is easy to deal with and the campaign has the potential to last long and so far the current campaign I'm in has all the criteria I'm looking for a campaign.
It's a case-to-case basis for every participant and could be money, number of posts, and reputation. but if you're going to switch from one campaign to the other you better be a good poster and someone who can get into the campaign easily.
I thought money is not your consideration, so why you are making sure that your post exceeds to your quota? The logic behind is because some threads or replies can get deleted and if we only post 25 per week (most sig campaigns minimum) we can get short and we may not get paid. You also ensure that you are in a reputable campaign manager so that you can always get paid.

Lastly, you want a long lasting campaign so that you can continuously earn a crypto. I believe that this is also the dream of many campaign participant because sometimes a new campaign can come rarely and then applying on it is also not easy. We always need to be on time to have a better chance of being accepted.

Obviously he wants to get paid since he is enrolled on a campaign. The topic here is the discussion about changing campaign frequently and there’s nothing wrong to secured the amount of post needed for the campaign to be paid since this is a job not a volunteer work.

I believe he meant money is not a problem by means of the salary difference between each campaign. It’s hypocracy to the highest level to say that someone doesn’t need money while enrolled in a campaign and posting until max wuota no matter how good his contribution. We are all after extra income that’s why we join on a campaign. On his case, he doesn’t mean like that.
hero member
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September 15, 2023, 08:17:00 AM
#79
I thought money is not your consideration, so why you are making sure that your post exceeds to your quota? The logic behind is because some threads or replies can get deleted and if we only post 25 per week (most sig campaigns minimum) we can get short and we may not get paid.
The logic is not always constant, and making posts above the maximum that will be paid for doesn't mean you are doing it to ensure you get paid. Some users find making posts easy, as long as they find topics that interests them and this way they'll make so many posts above what's counted towards the weekly payment. You could also be making a few extra posts to ensure deleted or posts moved to sections that don't count in the campaign doesn't affect your payment. In my honest opinion, it does not matter what the logic is, so long as the posts are good and aren't spam posts.
We always need to be on time to have a better chance of being accepted.
When you apply for a campaign doesn't matter, just don't apply when it is CFNP. Good managers will check all of the applications and take their time to review all of them, even if your application was the last one.
jr. member
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September 15, 2023, 06:21:05 AM
#78
I remember leaving one campaign because of a reputation issue, Other than that money is not my consideration not even the number of posts I exceed my post quota sometimes, I just want to be in a campaign where the project I'm promoting is reputable the manager managing the campaign is easy to deal with and the campaign has the potential to last long and so far the current campaign I'm in has all the criteria I'm looking for a campaign.
It's a case-to-case basis for every participant and could be money, number of posts, and reputation. but if you're going to switch from one campaign to the other you better be a good poster and someone who can get into the campaign easily.
I thought money is not your consideration, so why you are making sure that your post exceeds to your quota? The logic behind is because some threads or replies can get deleted and if we only post 25 per week (most sig campaigns minimum) we can get short and we may not get paid. You also ensure that you are in a reputable campaign manager so that you can always get paid.

Lastly, you want a long lasting campaign so that you can continuously earn a crypto. I believe that this is also the dream of many campaign participant because sometimes a new campaign can come rarely and then applying on it is also not easy. We always need to be on time to have a better chance of being accepted.
member
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September 15, 2023, 02:44:19 AM
#77
What makes members move everytime? I need your contribution on this to make me understand it better.
To get a better payment of course.
Not all members on this forum often switch signature campaigns there are those who stay on the campaign for a very long period of time, although he has a chance of getting a higher payment, the reason may be to get a signature campaign that lasts longer than just one to two weeks.
There are members who make signature campaigns as their main income, and these members will certainly prefer long-running campaigns even though the payment is not large especially if the value is sufficient to finance their lives, certainty is more important.
hero member
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September 14, 2023, 07:58:25 AM
#76
I switched only once if my memory serves right in all the years, I like to be in the long-running campaign no matter if their pay rate is half compared to some campaigns that popped up recently but I can only speak for myself and based on the opinions shared by others the probable cause is the high pay rate.

But if I am not wrong campaign managers don't like the attitude of switching campaigns too often, and some managers explicitly stated that on a few occasions.

Even I saw members applying for a campaign just after thanking them for accepting a signature campaign. Roll Eyes
hero member
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September 14, 2023, 06:22:15 AM
#75
I have worked with some managers in the past who will deny you payment because you missed a single post to complete weekly count.
I can understand what the managers are thinking and why they do that, since it is a campaign with an exact post per week requirement, and not a pay per post, the managers will be expecting participants to do more than the bare mimimum. Let's say the campaign requires you to make 20 posts to get paid, the manager may expect 23+ posts, in that way if you have a post deleted or moved to a section that's not counted towards the payment, you'll still get the full payment.

For the participant, it could be as a result of a busy or rough week in real life, but you can't blame the manager if you didn't reach the exact requirement. Communication is also important between managers and campaign participants, if you are having a rough time in real life, you can discuss with your manager and the both of you will reach a good compromise.
legendary
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September 14, 2023, 03:24:15 AM
#74
This is still correct though:
I've never left a campaign before it ended. How many users can say that?

I don't know if you're speaking in reference to your alt here or your main account but here's my opinion on this if you're speaking as your main account. Not everyone has the same privileges you have on the forum and don't get me wrong (you deserve them all) but you're unlikely to be kick out of a campaign unlike other members on the forum. People are looking for security in campaigns, that's campaign that won't kick them out just because they don't have the reputation like you do. People switch campaign for various reasons and one of them is to work with a manager that's less likely to replace them with others that are of higher reputation. Also you're privilege to be in one of the best paying campaigns (frequently) and also have side deals that are worth more than some campaigns are paying that many accounts can never have on the forum. You should be comfortable in any campaign you're participating in and don't have a reason to switch.

I think members also switch campaigns, because they follow specific bounty managers. There are managers who a more strict than others, when we speak about post evaluation, and these managers also have more light or preferable campaign rules. For example some managers allow local posting, some just count few posts. Some members, instead of struggling to post 15 posts in English each week, would rather make 25 posts on their native language.

One rule I highlighted in my thread: [Guide] Factors to consider before joining paid signature campaigns. is that we should always work for a campaign that won't change our posting habits and even when they're the only options available on the forum, we should avoid them and keep participating in discussion on the forum. You don't need to be in a campaign to write on the forum and you shouldn't join any that you won't be comfortable in. Signature campaign aren't jobs that you can justify being in for the salary to keep life moving until you find another more suiting to you. So in this scenario instead of participating in a campaign that won't allow you to post in your local baord, ignored them and wait for those that'll allow you be you.
legendary
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September 14, 2023, 01:39:10 AM
#73
Why do people change jobs?
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  • For job security

I don't think we can classify signature campaigns as a job, because it's a form of advertisement.

I think members also switch campaigns, because they follow specific bounty managers. There are managers who a more strict than others, when we speak about post evaluation, and these managers also have more light or preferable campaign rules. For example some managers allow local posting, some just count few posts. Some members, instead of struggling to post 15 posts in English each week, would rather make 25 posts on their native language.

Why would anyone want to do that, in the middle of a campaign? That is like changing jobs because your supervisor has also changed jobs and went to another company so you just pack your bags and call it quits and move over there - if they even accept you that is.

What you said is true, I like this point. I never looked at it like that but now you mentioned it I see the reason. I have worked with some managers in the past who will deny you payment because you missed a single post to complete weekly count. But there are some managers that will pass the less post to the following week and pay you complete. It is painful for anyone that a manager can get their payment ceased over small thing like that.

That is almost always in the terms of the campaign so it should be clear what you sign up for when you join a campaign.
legendary
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September 13, 2023, 05:39:15 PM
#72
Well, that's easier to do if you've been to the best ones. For those who haven't, and you suddenly get the opportunity to get paid double or more, it doesn't make much sense to stay in the current campaign for supposedly owed loyalty, when you don't know if next week it's going to end, get paused, or you're simplt going to be kicked out. As I commented in my previous post in this thread on the subject:
I've never been in highest paying campaigns like Chipmixer, but I also never left campaign before it ended. I simply don't see reasons to jump between campaigns to get $10/week more. It's not life changing money, especially when I'm in long term stable campaign. It's same like I don't change my full-time job often, I laready work in same company for more than 4 years.
But I understand reasons why people switch between campaigns and your example is very good one. If my current campaign would cut payments by 50%, then most likely I would leave.
sr. member
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September 13, 2023, 11:27:26 AM
#71
For me, I would rather work with a less strict manager with lower pay than a strict manager with higher pay.

What you said is true, I like this point. I never looked at it like that but now you mentioned it I see the reason. I have worked with some managers in the past who will deny you payment because you missed a single post to complete weekly count. But there are some managers that will pass the less post to the following week and pay you complete. It is painful for anyone that a manager can get their payment ceased over small thing like that.
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