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September 02, 2023, 10:17:35 AM
#30
I believe the reason is too obvious that user preferred a better pay grade or a much simpler rules that give them freedom to post on the boards that they want. Campaign participants will not join on any signature campaign if they have enough money from their salary or investments just like what the OG user on Wall Observer thread that have enough credentials to join any campaign that they like but decided to avoid any commitments by posting just to be paid.

Campaign managers doesn’t have any rules about this so user find it normal to chase for a better pay grade over the duration of the campaign since they can join back again whenever they like especially those user that is high merit count.

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September 02, 2023, 10:16:09 AM
#29
Many factors support the decision to switch campaigns, a practice previously avoided due to the loss of rewards. Nowadays, few campaigns are considered credible, so any offering both credibility and better rewards are eagerly embraced.
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September 02, 2023, 10:11:27 AM
#28
I don't know about others but let me share my own thoughts on this. I have been in the Sinbad signature campaign for a long time now. I have worked in other signature campaigns but those were not that long enough and had limited payment for a limited period of time. But this one that I am in now, has been here for a long time. And getting into a new signature campaign is quite tough. I don't consider myself the best. I am pretty much average when it comes to writing. So the competition is real. And I am in a campaign because of obviously the payment. But I may not get accepted in another campaign and my work may not suit other campaign managers.

Also, there are some different requirements for posts in different campaigns. One may require fewer posts and pay the same, but they require to post in a certain section in which I am not able to give out good posts. So there's a chance that I may end up kicked out from that campaign. And I have been working on this campaign for a long time. I know how things work in this and how the campaign manager would react to certain things. For this reason, I won't move to something new even if it's paying more. I have created a routine for my work and it fits my daily life. Others may not fit the way this does.

So that's how I feel about this.
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September 02, 2023, 10:07:46 AM
#27
Pay rate, longevity.

Pay rate - I think for most of the people who are into Bitcoin-paid signature campaign, they know this already, and I also believe that this is one of the main reasons as to why people are moving from one campaign to another. I remember the time where whenever Chipmixer has an open spot, I see 5 or more pages of users who are applying for it (including me), and most of them are into Bitcoin-paid signature campaign.

Longevity - Most of the Bitcoin-paid signature campaigns that I ever joined has been there for a very long time with exception to Rollbit where I started joining since it's launch, and luckily it's still running 3 years I think after it first started. I remember Yolodice has been running for years already before I joined. Same with Stake.com, and now Bestchange. I always consider the longevity of the campaign. Yes there might be some campaigns out there who are paying higher to their participants, but the question is, is that sustainable? That's the first thing that comes out to my mind, and I will decide base on that.

There might be some here who has other factors as to why they're switching campaigns, but I don't want to overcomplicate things, because that will just make me stressful.
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September 02, 2023, 10:03:57 AM
#26
This could be as a result of unsatisfied pay rate just as the user said, and delay in payment..
Lets say some manager don't pay on time after week runs out, some participants wants after week runs before 8am in the morning they expect to see their balance changes in their wallet and not those manager that will delay till almost that day runs out before paying participants even when they hold funds with them.
If you look well is very discouraging at all points, so they chooses another campaign instead of remaining in their previous campaign.

But the disadvantage of switching campaign is that you might ended up joining a campaign that may not last longer than the previous campaign that is what most people do not considered at all but all only considering the huge amount being paid at the moment, while some people feels like experience new environment of another code.
You are right there. Switching campaign may also lead you to not profiting at all. Instead of participating to a new campaign because the rate is high and the minimum requirement is low, you could have end up in a short span duration campaign and make you jobless in the end. That’s the reason why I don’t easily switch campaign, as I don’t want to lose the opportunity of being a member of a reliable campaign and a reputable campaign manager that is always punctual in updating the spreadsheet and sending weekly payment.
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September 02, 2023, 09:34:47 AM
#25
I can answer you as I’m the member who moved after 3 years, personally I still feel grateful to BESTCHANGE and I created an alternative account to promote them for free (as an expression of my gratitude( but over time you want to go on a new deal and that's what I did.

I do not think that this post is formed because of you because you are one of the most loyal campaign promoters in the forum. 3years is not 3 months and on leaving Best_Change you created an account that will continue to promote Best_Change. Although, I doubt how fast you can grow the account, but your loyalty is proven.

As for the reason that I did not do that before, it is because most of the campaigns during 2020 to 2023 were gambling campaigns, casinos, or loans, and these three things I do not like, and I have almost 0% posts in the gambling section during the 6 years I spent here.

In 2020, I was in a CHIPMIXER campaign, and from there I moved to BESTCHANGE, and perhaps after the disappearance of CHIPMIXER, more mixers campaigns appeared, so I moved.

I haven't seen of recent where people promote projects according to their belief. Before now some person's will not promote gambling companies no matter how much they pay. These days, there are a few of such people, as people are willing to promote any project for money.
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September 02, 2023, 09:03:31 AM
#24
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What makes members move everytime? I need your contribution on this to make me understand it better.
Higher pay is of course the main reason for members who switch to signing campaigns, besides project uncertainty, convenience with the rules set by the manager are some of the other reasons for members switching to signing campaigns.
i pay enough attention to members who often move, there are members who have not received a single campaign until now for several reasons and maybe the manager marked their account and put their account on the blacklist.  Apart from that, i'm sure you've got the answer to your question.
sr. member
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September 02, 2023, 09:02:41 AM
#23
I won't see anything wrong if a participant leaves a campaign whose manager is very strict in certain circumstances and would deny you post that will make up your weekly quota and won't pay you half for the week or refer you to make extra one more post for the new week. This usually happens in campaign that has stated amount of posts that must be made for weekly payment, so if a participant sees a campaign where the post has both minimum and maximum or pay as you post then they might move. However, some users move to different campaigns that has the same characteristics, payment and same manager within a week or two even if for slightest payment difference. I think the major reason is payment and not totally comfort for more than 50% of users doing that.
legendary
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September 02, 2023, 08:49:22 AM
#22
I can answer you as I’m the member who moved after 3 years, personally I still feel grateful to BESTCHANGE and I created an alternative account to promote them for free (as an expression of my gratitude( but over time you want to go on a new deal and that's what I did.

As for the reason that I did not do that before, it is because most of the campaigns during 2020 to 2023 were gambling campaigns, casinos, or loans, and these three things I do not like, and I have almost 0% posts in the gambling section during the 6 years I spent here.

In 2020, I was in a CHIPMIXER campaign, and from there I moved to BESTCHANGE, and perhaps after the disappearance of CHIPMIXER, more mixers campaigns appeared, so I moved.
hero member
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September 02, 2023, 08:48:18 AM
#21
@OP how old are you? have you get a job? you can easily answer this if you already work under someone, it's either your job desk are boring, get paid less, high pressure, toxic working place, toxic boss, too far from your home, etc etc.

Signature campaign on the other hand also consist of many factors and if someone feel there's a better option, they will choose to switch other campaign. This is really personal and there are many reasons from it.

I think you are taking it too personal or into heart as I believe op just wanted to see the different version of answer from people here. From my point of view I don't see switching of campaign to be something very bad or seen as a sin since everyone control their account and no one has power to control each an everyone account, so it's to people leaving campaign to join other campaign they feels more comfortable with.
I wouldn't like to go further as I believe a lot key points has been presented already so is of op's option to read them all to know the different reasons why people do switch from campaign to another.
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September 02, 2023, 08:30:20 AM
#20
1. The reason is because of money.
Those who jump from one campaign to another because of payment factors, when a slot is opened with a higher salary offer, they will immediately apply in the hope of being accepted.

2. Factor in the number of posts and rules in posting.
The weekly quota amount is also a consideration for them, they will immediately apply when there is a vacancy according to their account rank in another campaign which requires a weekly posting quota of less than the currently promoted campaign. Apart from that, posting rules such as posting on boards were excluded in the old campaign but counted in the new campaign. This is also a consideration for those who like to move campaigns.

3. Campaign duration factor.
It is undeniable that the convenience factor is a big consideration for Campaign participants, those who have been accepted into a campaign that has been running for a long time will remain loyal to that campaign. Their loyalty to the Campaign is not only because of the amount of payment, but they want to be guaranteed to continue being in the Campaign for the long term.

4. The factor of wanting to find a new atmosphere in a different campaign.
It might seem strange when suddenly participants who stay for a long time in one campaign suddenly move to another campaign. This is not due to a lack of loyalty to the old campaign, maybe there is something you want to look for in another campaign or you want to find a new atmosphere in the new campaign. imo
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September 02, 2023, 08:01:05 AM
#19
My question is why do members move from one campaign to another?

It's the same as asking why people change jobs, or why they go to different restaurants or shops - everyone has their own preferences that make them choose what to promote at a certain moment.

But I have seen where members go from better pay rates to the ones with lower rates and lower posts requirements.

For some, it's not all about pay rates, but also about what they promote, and if the differences in pay rates are very small, then it makes sense to choose a campaign that is less demanding, regardless of whether that campaign pays less.

Three years is like a lifetime, both for the campaign running and the member who remained faithful to it.

I was also in one campaign for more than three years and I don't see anything strange about it - you have excellent conditions, an excellent campaign manager and you are promoting something that you think has benefits for the community.
hero member
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September 02, 2023, 07:51:15 AM
#18
Some days ago I was surprised to see someone who has stayed in a campaign for more than three years. He was with BestChange. Alot of people can not remain there because there are many campaigns paying higher rates than the campaign he was with but he remained until yesterday that he moved to another campaign. Three years is like a lifetime, both for the campaign running and the member who remained faithful to it.
There was this altcoin campaign named Gold Storage I was with for more than 3 years, because it offered decent pay and post quality/quantity were within my limits. I never felt overwhelmed. Since I'm out of it, I've been hopping from one campaign to another.

Alt campaigns found in 'Bounties' board are trash while in services board most of are gambling related, which is not my subject. Although, I may still participate in gambling bounties because I got nothing better but if I'm going to see what suits me, I'm gonna switch right away.

I wish I could do that But Low Rank and low merit like me is no way to keep switching between campaigns. If you are a high member and have high merit at least get recognized by the other high member have trust list in DT1 or DT2 you can easily move one to another for a high reward of course I could see 1 person can easily get 6$ post or more in one campaign
Low merit understandable but Hero rank ain't low rank. Some sign campaigns pay same to both leggy and hero members. One example being Zenland which you are wearing.
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September 02, 2023, 07:04:06 AM
#17
I haven't joined many campaigns, previously most of campaigns is Casino and Gambling and they required active posters on the Gambling section and I don't do that, only recently that there are Many Bitcoin mixer campaigns so that I started to join a campaign. I think how much they earn is not the main reason people moving to another campaign, I mean as long as it's not too low compared to other campaign they will not consider it as a problem, they will move to another if it's more suitable to their posting habit, like the in what section they should/shouldn't post, or how much post they need to make.

I myself,  just moved to a new campaign because I just rank up.
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September 02, 2023, 06:42:11 AM
#16

This question has occured to me many times but whenever it happens I push it off my mind. But I want to ask now and get opinions of members on it. I do not know if this section is right place to post it. Please moderator move it if I posted it wrongly. My question is why do members move from one campaign to another? I will not mention names of some that I have seen move from campaign to campaign every time there is opening so no one feels am attacking him.

I know alot of us will say it is the difference in weekly reward, that the higher the reward the more people move to campaigns with better payments. But I have seen where members go from better pay rates to the ones with lower rates and lower posts requirements. Some apply to campaign of the same manager in less than a week of getting accepted and they want to move again, the same payment and number of posts. I have also seen those who have refused to move to campaigns with better rates, they will be picked if they applied because of their good posts. They choose to remain. Is it about loyalty? Is it that they are scared of switching? Is it about fulfilment with where they are?

And for those who move always, is it money driving the motive? Is it about going to where those they see as family move to? I want to know. Some days ago I was surprised to see someone who has stayed in a campaign for more than three years. He was with BestChange. Alot of people can not remain there because there are many campaigns paying higher rates than the campaign he was with but he remained until yesterday that he moved to another campaign. Three years is like a lifetime, both for the campaign running and the member who remained faithful to it.

What makes members move everytime? I need your contribution on this to make me understand it better.

If you look at it now, our problems are not equal in this forum, we face different challenges most of the people they depend on this campaign the money they are earning to even use it and feed their families, take care of themselves, which you see a campaign to pay you, example double of what you earn, most people don't do that because they see where their family or friends moved to, in my opinion most are doing that because of the high rate most campaigns are giving. I bet you the person you claimed to know who remained in campaign for three years didn't have the same issue with people who move from one campaign to another. Nothing is beyond the power of money.
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September 02, 2023, 04:47:24 AM
#15
This question has occured to me many times but
What makes members move everytime? I need your contribution on this to make me understand it better.
It depends on every individual’s perception, we may have different view of signature campaign and what may drive me to change from one campaign to another will be different from yours but I believe most people are influenced by the pay rates just as _act_ have mentioned. When ever a new campaign with higher pay rates is launched a lot of people will leave their campaign just to join that campaign but not everyone is joining because of the high pay rate.


Change of campaign rule: When the rules of the campaign change, it might not suit some members. Some campaigns can decide to remove or add some boards to their campaign posts which some members might not be comfortable with
This is also one of the major reason why some people change campaigns, the post requirement for some campaign may be too much for some members to cope, they may be too occupied to have enough time to carry out the required number of post and so they will be seeking to join campaign with lower post quota. There are also people who are not convenient to post in some boards like how some campaigns demand for 10 gambling posts for the week and when they don’t have much knowledge about gambling discussions they will seek for campaigns that doesn’t make it mandatory to make gambling posts.


Longevity of the campaign: Some members might decide to leave a high-paying campaign to a lesser one because they believe that the low-paying one will last longer. Some members cherish longtime campaigns rather than high-paying ones.
This is another aspect that individuals take into account while switching from one campaign to another. Some people choose long-running campaigns because they believe they are more secure in the long run. We've observed some high-rate efforts that didn't survive as long as anticipated, yet their members kept switching to the campaigns that paid less.

The reputation of the campaign manager and how strictly the manager runs the campaign are other reasons why people switch to other campaigns. People will rather participate in a campaign where they will feel secure and have peace of mind.
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September 02, 2023, 04:29:30 AM
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I have also seen those who have refused to move to campaigns with better rates, they will be picked if they applied because of their good posts. They choose to remain. Is it about loyalty? Is it that they are scared of switching? Is it about fulfilment with where they are?
You probably didn't have me in mind when writing the above, but I related to that particular situation more so than the others.  Personally, I'm not on this forum to make money and I don't like switching campaigns frequently because I don't want to burn bridges; when you leave a campaign, the manager then has a slot to fill and it's more work for him.  So although in the past I probably could have gotten into higher-paying campaigns, I chose to stay where I was for the reason I gave (and I don't want to get the reputation of being a campaign-hopper).

Everyone is different, though, and if you think about it, it's a good thing people are jumping to campaigns that pay more.  That in theory should drive up pay rates across the board, because if you're renting signature space, to get good posters you need to pay a competitive rate....just like in the real world, you know?

This forum is basically about money and if people are honest most of them would identify as capitalists.  And what do capitalists do in the labor market?  They go where the money is.  It's not that tough to figure out.

This could be as a result of unsatisfied pay rate just as the user said, and delay in payment..
Lets say some manager don't pay on time after week runs out, some participants wants after week runs before 8am in the morning they expect to see their balance changes in their wallet and not those manager that will delay till almost that day runs out before paying participants even when they hold funds with them.
Yes!  I don't want to name names, but I've had an experience like that and it was annoying as hell (but it was years ago).  Imagine if you were working a real job in the real world and for some arbitrary reason your paycheck didn't show up on time, maybe a day late.  That would cause chaos in a real workplace.  There's a lot of flexibility with sig campaigns and a lot of leeway given to campaign managers, but they should still try their best to be consistent with the payouts, i.e., everything correct and payments made to participants on time.

Oh, I think this thread ought to go in Meta or Service Discussion.  It's an interesting topic to me, OP.  Even the idea of sig campaigns has fascinated me ever since I figured out what they were (and that took months for my pea brain to compute).
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September 02, 2023, 04:29:13 AM
#13
From my observation and some personal experience, participants move from one campaign to another because of higher number required weekly post and yet the compensation is low, while some campaign requires only few post per week but the payout rate is certainly high. So members will definitely chose those that are convenient for them. Also, having some delayed payments is a red flag. Although I can’t blame the campaign manager of course, but it would be more convenient and satisfying for the members if they can receive their payout earlier or right on time.
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September 02, 2023, 04:27:31 AM
#12
@OP how old are you? have you get a job? you can easily answer this if you already work under someone, it's either your job desk are boring, get paid less, high pressure, toxic working place, toxic boss, too far from your home, etc etc.

Signature campaign on the other hand also consist of many factors and if someone feel there's a better option, they will choose to switch other campaign. This is really personal and there are many reasons from it.
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September 02, 2023, 04:11:01 AM
#11
Higher Reward is the only key  Tongue Especially if you are a high-rank Member and I do believe this is only the reason why members keep switching from one campaign to another or there is another reason is helping the project or friend but this is small chance of happening to Bitcointalk

I wish I could do that But Low Rank and low merit like me is no way to keep switching between campaigns. If you are a high member and have high merit at least get recognized by the other high member have trust list in DT1 or DT2 you can easily move one to another for a high reward of course I could see 1 person can easily get 6$ post or more in one campaign
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