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legendary
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October 18, 2014, 07:41:39 AM
Hate comes from ignorance.
People don't research facts but believes in media reports and propaganda.
I feel people are to much brainwashed in today's society by the media and governments and don't think with their brains anymore.

So I take you don't hate Nazism or Fascism, right?
sr. member
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October 18, 2014, 06:08:28 AM
Why do YOU hate islam?

I don't hate islam =) I don't hate any religion. But yes it's true that many people afraid of islam. It's because 90% of terrorists are islamic.


Terrorist Attacks on U.S. Soil by Group, From 1980 to 2005, According to the FBI Database

Ok, now count all the terroristic attacks around the world for the last decade. Not us only.

Not "us"? Elaborate please

USA - United states of america

Well I'm not going to waste my time counting it all

A list of violent groups (except governments) can be found here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_designated_terrorist_organizations
sr. member
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October 18, 2014, 05:50:14 AM
Hate comes from ignorance.
People don't research facts but believes in media reports and propaganda.
I feel people are to much brainwashed in today's society by the media and governments and don't think with their brains anymore.
hero member
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October 18, 2014, 05:32:21 AM
Why do YOU hate islam?

I don't hate islam =) I don't hate any religion. But yes it's true that many people afraid of islam. It's because 90% of terrorists are islamic.


Terrorist Attacks on U.S. Soil by Group, From 1980 to 2005, According to the FBI Database

Ok, now count all the terroristic attacks around the world for the last decade. Not us only.

Not "us"? Elaborate please

USA - United states of america

Well I'm not going to waste my time counting it all
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hyperboria - next internet
October 18, 2014, 05:19:10 AM
Why do YOU hate islam?

I don't hate islam =) I don't hate any religion. But yes it's true that many people afraid of islam. It's because 90% of terrorists are islamic.


Terrorist Attacks on U.S. Soil by Group, From 1980 to 2005, According to the FBI Database

Ok, now count all the terroristic attacks around the world for the last decade. Not us only.

Not "us"? Elaborate please

USA - United states of america
hero member
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October 18, 2014, 05:12:22 AM
Why do YOU hate islam?

I don't hate islam =) I don't hate any religion. But yes it's true that many people afraid of islam. It's because 90% of terrorists are islamic.


Terrorist Attacks on U.S. Soil by Group, From 1980 to 2005, According to the FBI Database

Ok, now count all the terroristic attacks around the world for the last decade. Not us only.

Not "us"? Elaborate please
hero member
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hyperboria - next internet
October 18, 2014, 05:10:01 AM
Why do YOU hate islam?

I don't hate islam =) I don't hate any religion. But yes it's true that many people afraid of islam. It's because 90% of terrorists are islamic.


Terrorist Attacks on U.S. Soil by Group, From 1980 to 2005, According to the FBI Database

Ok, now count all the terroristic attacks around the world for the last decade. Not us only.
hero member
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October 18, 2014, 01:23:40 AM
Why do YOU hate islam?

I don't hate islam =) I don't hate any religion. But yes it's true that many people afraid of islam. It's because 90% of terrorists are islamic.


Terrorist Attacks on U.S. Soil by Group, From 1980 to 2005, According to the FBI Database

I assume, given the source, that we're leaving government agents out of the equation Cheesy

Well done. I didn't have figures to back it, but I knew that was wrong.

Also, the "Communists, 5%" is just bullshit because in COINTEL Pro (Google it) Communists were victims of mass surveillance and FBI setups
legendary
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October 16, 2014, 01:38:45 PM
Yeah, you know what a "good Muslim" would say to this, they would say those are bad people, they are not muslims, they are deviant sect.

I agree with you, but don't misrepresent Muslims as supporting ISIS.  Look at this thread, a number have commented on these atrocities and distanced themselves and their beliefs from such things.

If your point is the theoretical ability of a "Muslim" to support the committing of atrocities cherry picking the old books, yeah, that's a problem.

Amen to that. Many Muslims are quite nice people, most if you avoid the religion theme.
But for big G sake! They have to stop wandering around carrying a book telling them to kill pretty much everyone. Isn't them the problem, is the damn book! And I can't say the Quran and the Hadith aren't interesting in the literary level, they are, just that they are to read as we read Odyssey, Iliad and many other classical pieces. Not to take that thing by the letter! We are no longer at VII Century!

And they have to listen to what we have to say, as well as we should listen to the moderates among them.  Because we, both those who are Christian and those who are Kafir, know precisely what we are talking about on this subject.

Rick Perry, Texas Governor, talking in London.

 “But to every extremist, it has to be made clear: We will not allow you to exploit our tolerance, so that you can import your intolerance. We will not let you destroy our peace with your violent ideas. If you expect to live among us and yet plan against us to receive the protections and comforts of a free society while showing none of its virtues or graces then you can have our answer now: No, not on our watch! You will live by exactly the standards that the rest of us live by. And if that comes as jarring news then welcome to civilization.”

Look. In our modern world, people don't want to hate anyone.

O sure, there are little hatreds flaring all around. You know, like your neighbor hates you 'cause you have a newer car than they do.

The only reason people hate Islam is because of the things that the religion says and causes its people to do. And that is, to violently hate everyone who isn't of the Islam religion, and to violently do something about them whenever the opportunity arises.

Smiley
legendary
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October 14, 2014, 06:22:37 PM
Yeah, you know what a "good Muslim" would say to this, they would say those are bad people, they are not muslims, they are deviant sect.

I agree with you, but don't misrepresent Muslims as supporting ISIS.  Look at this thread, a number have commented on these atrocities and distanced themselves and their beliefs from such things.

If your point is the theoretical ability of a "Muslim" to support the committing of atrocities cherry picking the old books, yeah, that's a problem.

Amen to that. Many Muslims are quite nice people, most if you avoid the religion theme.
But for big G sake! They have to stop wandering around carrying a book telling them to kill pretty much everyone. Isn't them the problem, is the damn book! And I can't say the Quran and the Hadith aren't interesting in the literary level, they are, just that they are to read as we read Odyssey, Iliad and many other classical pieces. Not to take that thing by the letter! We are no longer at VII Century!

And they have to listen to what we have to say, as well as we should listen to the moderates among them.  Because we, both those who are Christian and those who are Kafir, know precisely what we are talking about on this subject.

Rick Perry, Texas Governor, talking in London.

 “But to every extremist, it has to be made clear: We will not allow you to exploit our tolerance, so that you can import your intolerance. We will not let you destroy our peace with your violent ideas. If you expect to live among us and yet plan against us to receive the protections and comforts of a free society while showing none of its virtues or graces then you can have our answer now: No, not on our watch! You will live by exactly the standards that the rest of us live by. And if that comes as jarring news then welcome to civilization.”
legendary
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October 14, 2014, 03:13:31 PM
Yeah, you know what a "good Muslim" would say to this, they would say those are bad people, they are not muslims, they are deviant sect.

I agree with you, but don't misrepresent Muslims as supporting ISIS.  Look at this thread, a number have commented on these atrocities and distanced themselves and their beliefs from such things.

If your point is the theoretical ability of a "Muslim" to support the committing of atrocities cherry picking the old books, yeah, that's a problem.

Amen to that. Many Muslims are quite nice people, most if you avoid the religion theme.
But for big G sake! They have to stop wandering around carrying a book telling them to kill pretty much everyone. Isn't them the problem, is the damn book! And I can't say the Quran and the Hadith aren't interesting in the literary level, they are, just that they are to read as we read Odyssey, Iliad and many other classical pieces. Not to take that thing by the letter! We are no longer at VII Century!
legendary
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October 14, 2014, 10:18:00 AM
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Maybe I should have reworded the wives thing.

As far as I know the Yazidiz were not enemy, ohh yea every one who isnt a muslim is an enemy of Islam oops stupid me... continue to rape and pilage ye good religous men.
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Yeah, you know what a "good Muslim" would say to this, they would say those are bad people, they are not muslims, they are deviant sect.

I agree with you, but don't misrepresent Muslims as supporting ISIS.  Look at this thread, a number have commented on these atrocities and distanced themselves and their beliefs from such things.

If your point is the theoretical ability of a "Muslim" to support the committing of atrocities cherry picking the old books, yeah, that's a problem.

legendary
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October 14, 2014, 06:00:14 AM
The only reason Muhammad started Islam was, he saw how rich corrupt Christians had become using their religion for profit, and he wanted something to take their wealth from them. So he started Islam, basically just to become richer than the corrupt Christians.

Smiley
sr. member
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October 14, 2014, 01:34:03 AM
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Where in Quran does it say take your enemies women, they will be your slaves and wifes, now fuck the shit out them and bring forth babies.

4:24

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And forbidden to you are wedded wives of other people except those who have fallen in your hands (as prisoners of war)

33:50

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O Prophet, indeed We have made lawful to you your wives to whom you have given their due compensation and those your right hand possesses from what Allah has returned to you [of captives] and the daughters of your paternal uncles and the daughters of your paternal aunts and the daughters of your maternal uncles and the daughters of your maternal aunts who emigrated with you and a believing woman if she gives herself to the Prophet [and] if the Prophet wishes to marry her, [this is] only for you, excluding the [other] believers. We certainly know what We have made obligatory upon them concerning their wives and those their right hands possess, [but this is for you] in order that there will be upon you no discomfort. And ever is Allah Forgiving and Merciful.

About Muslims killing Muslims, that's the outcome of a violent doctrine, they will keep turning on themselves for minor offenses, they were told the only way to settle them was by violence, and that's what they do.
Homicidal doctrines are suicide; towards its own, because will resource violence for pretty much anything, towards other cultures/doctrines because conflicts with the "Golden Rule" and thus leave it open to counter-attacks.

About cognitive dissonance; yes, it would be totally unfair to pin it on Islam alone, it's a common characteristic of religious people, even political, specially when their books are too extent, where contradiction becomes unavoidable.

Maybe I should have reworded the wives thing.

As far as I know the Yazidiz were not enemy, ohh yea every one who isnt a muslim is an enemy of Islam oops stupid me... continue to rape and pilage ye good religous men.

What if western troops in midle eastern contries followed this doctrine?

Could you imagine the tears that would come from muslims when the first group of women were sold off or married? Especially since it is forbidden for muslim women to marry on muslim men.

I guess thats another reason I dont really care for  Muslims, they cry about everything, yet commit the worst actions and act like they deserve impunity due to a line in the  Quaran. We can fuck your women but you cant fuck ours, see right here it says it in this book, that makes it legit, now im going to chop off your head off non believer and take your wife! Allah Akbar!\

The religion of peace
http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/10/13/Witnesses-Describe-Jihadist-Horror-in-Kobane-as-ISIS-Justifies-Enslaving-Yazidis


Also the X religion did this so its really not that bad for muslims to do XX is a bullshit excuse. I dont care for many religions but most are not burning people at the stakes still.
legendary
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October 14, 2014, 12:27:23 AM
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Where in Quran does it say take your enemies women, they will be your slaves and wifes, now fuck the shit out them and bring forth babies.

4:24

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And forbidden to you are wedded wives of other people except those who have fallen in your hands (as prisoners of war)

33:50

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O Prophet, indeed We have made lawful to you your wives to whom you have given their due compensation and those your right hand possesses from what Allah has returned to you [of captives] and the daughters of your paternal uncles and the daughters of your paternal aunts and the daughters of your maternal uncles and the daughters of your maternal aunts who emigrated with you and a believing woman if she gives herself to the Prophet [and] if the Prophet wishes to marry her, [this is] only for you, excluding the [other] believers. We certainly know what We have made obligatory upon them concerning their wives and those their right hands possess, [but this is for you] in order that there will be upon you no discomfort. And ever is Allah Forgiving and Merciful.

About Muslims killing Muslims, that's the outcome of a violent doctrine, they will keep turning on themselves for minor offenses, they were told the only way to settle them was by violence, and that's what they do.
Homicidal doctrines are suicide; towards its own, because will resource violence for pretty much anything, towards other cultures/doctrines because conflicts with the "Golden Rule" and thus leave it open to counter-attacks.

About cognitive dissonance; yes, it would be totally unfair to pin it on Islam alone, it's a common characteristic of religious people, even political, specially when their books are too extent, where contradiction becomes unavoidable.
legendary
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Anarchy is not chaos.
October 14, 2014, 12:14:39 AM
Why do YOU hate islam?

I don't hate islam =) I don't hate any religion. But yes it's true that many people afraid of islam. It's because 90% of terrorists are islamic.


Terrorist Attacks on U.S. Soil by Group, From 1980 to 2005, According to the FBI Database

This is a stupid graph, you cant put all acts into one pie chart.

A right wing group bombing an abortion clinic is a little different than blowing up a kid and spectators at a marathon.

Latino terror attacks are mainly also organized crime or gang background..

Also not many attacks happen in the us, you should look worldwide.
http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/225043.pdf

Notice most attacks are on private citizens ie usually innocents.

It seems all the different rebel groups fight each other.

Muslims scream that the west kills Muslims and they will pay. Yet everytime I see a news arcticle its another muslim bombing againts more muslims.

Isis kidnaps women to turn them into slaves and wives.

Where in Quran does it say take your enemies women, they will be your slaves and wifes, now fuck the shit out them and bring forth babies.

I still dont get this either. Why does it matter if I am not a muslim?

Why is it required to force people to become muslim against their will?

Is this really a reason to murder people? Is this really the image you want of your religion?

Convert or die? But convert to our sect the right sect. Then you be our brother and we will fuckign murder everyone! Then after they are dead we will take their women and fuck them! Because we are men fo Allah!

Also I was under the impressoin that muhammed allowed other religions to practice as long as they paid a tax.

Why do Muslims reflect so hard on certain passages, but then act like other ones don't exist?

compartmentalization to avoid cognitive dissonance, an inevitable side effect of believing in fairy tales past early adolescence. It's not just Islam.
sr. member
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October 14, 2014, 12:05:03 AM
Why do YOU hate islam?

I don't hate islam =) I don't hate any religion. But yes it's true that many people afraid of islam. It's because 90% of terrorists are islamic.


Terrorist Attacks on U.S. Soil by Group, From 1980 to 2005, According to the FBI Database

This is a stupid graph, you cant put all acts into one pie chart.

A right wing group bombing an abortion clinic is a little different than blowing up a kid and spectators at a marathon.

Latino terror attacks are mainly also organized crime or gang background..

Also not many attacks happen in the us, you should look worldwide.
http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/225043.pdf

Notice most attacks are on private citizens ie usually innocents.

It seems all the different rebel groups fight each other.

Muslims scream that the west kills Muslims and they will pay. Yet everytime I see a news arcticle its another muslim bombing againts more muslims.

Isis kidnaps women to turn them into slaves and wives.

Where in Quran does it say take your enemies women, they will be your slaves and wifes, now fuck the shit out them and bring forth babies.

I still dont get this either. Why does it matter if I am not a muslim?

Why is it required to force people to become muslim against their will?

Is this really a reason to murder people? Is this really the image you want of your religion?

Convert or die? But convert to our sect the right sect. Then you be our brother and we will fuckign murder everyone! Then after they are dead we will take their women and fuck them! Because we are men fo Allah!

Also I was under the impressoin that muhammed allowed other religions to practice as long as they paid a tax.

Why do Muslims reflect so hard on certain passages, but then act like other ones don't exist?
legendary
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Anarchy is not chaos.
October 13, 2014, 10:51:17 PM
Why do YOU hate islam?

I don't hate islam =) I don't hate any religion. But yes it's true that many people afraid of islam. It's because 90% of terrorists are islamic.


Terrorist Attacks on U.S. Soil by Group, From 1980 to 2005, According to the FBI Database

I assume, given the source, that we're leaving government agents out of the equation Cheesy

Well done. I didn't have figures to back it, but I knew that was wrong.
hero member
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October 13, 2014, 09:58:21 PM
Why do YOU hate islam?

I don't hate islam =) I don't hate any religion. But yes it's true that many people afraid of islam. It's because 90% of terrorists are islamic.


Terrorist Attacks on U.S. Soil by Group, From 1980 to 2005, According to the FBI Database
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hyperboria - next internet
October 13, 2014, 06:05:54 PM
Why do YOU hate islam?

I don't hate islam =) I don't hate any religion. But yes it's true that many people afraid of islam. It's because 90% of terrorists are islamic.
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