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legendary
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November 26, 2014, 08:43:41 PM
Reddit: Retired soldiers describe what they saw and experienced and never told anyone: http://www.dailypaul.com/329802/reddit-retired-soldiers-describe-what-they-saw-and-experienced-and-never-told-anyone :
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A boy in Afghanistan would always tell us "bad no" where suspected IEDs were at. He would stack rocks within at least 10 ft from the IED. We gave the kid everything in return. Food and candy. Fuck I even gave him my DS. One day, we found him strung up on a tree. The Taliban found out and killed him. I get sort of emotional when I start playing pokemon now a days.

Fuck that's terrible....

One of my best buds got drunk and fell off the barracks. They labelled it an accident. It was actually a suicide over a girl.

I know, not too interesting, but I thought I'd share. Never told anyone. Always felt guilty.

That sucks bro, I've witnessed 2 suicides in my military career. One in a very similar circumstance to that. Alcohol, young men, and breakups are a very bad combination.

My very first patient in Afghanistan was a 10month girl.

The father brought her to our gate asking for help. We checked her out and she is literally missing all of the skin from shoulder blade to waist on her back left side. Burned to the bone. Dad tells terp that she tripped and got cut up by gravel.

Clearly she is burned. I can smell it still today. I can remember the screech she made. The charred skin I had to remove.

And that asshole just sat in the corner. Nothing I can do to right the situation other than do what I can for her.

That single moment definitely set the tempo for the following 9 months.

Why did he burn her?

In Afghanistan its not uncommon for the father of a screaming baby to dip the baby into boiling water to "stop them from crying". saw the same thing during my time there. Father claimed he spilled but it was clear she was dipped.

Why would they think that would make a kid STOP crying?

I was posted with Brits for a tour and the hospital on base was used for locals and absolute emergencies for coalition forces as better treatment was available a short distance away. Talking with the British docs that worked there I ask what they see the most. They said burnt children. I inquired about it and they said they would boil water to heat it up to bathe the kids but wouldnt check the temp before dunking the kids. I walked through that hospital multiple times a day for work. Wont forget the one time I saw one of those kids on a gurney through a door.

More at https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/2n269n/serious_retired_soldiers_on_reddit_what_was/ .

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legendary
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November 05, 2014, 11:24:07 PM
Hey! It's a proven fact that people who hate other people enough to murder them, especially through suicide bombings, usually hate themselves more. The real question is, why do Muslims hate Islam?

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That's relatively easy to answer, unfortunately.

A religion/culture/tribal that fosters and breeds hate in it's people will of course find that mostly focused on close in targets.

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November 05, 2014, 09:11:48 PM
Make no mistake. The day will come when "Islam" will push things one step too far, and they will be put down.
legendary
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October 18, 2014, 11:30:39 AM
Hey! It's a proven fact that people who hate other people enough to murder them, especially through suicide bombings, usually hate themselves more. The real question is, why do Muslims hate Islam?

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legendary
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October 18, 2014, 11:20:10 AM
Turns ironic. Sharia is 90%+ the cause their countries are the shithole that mades them run to the West, even if they prefer to go the losers way and keep find scape goats. Yet they insist to defend that non-sense.
legendary
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October 18, 2014, 11:05:01 AM
As long as they respect the Non Agression Principle, I don't care what they do, or in what they believe.

Well, what do MOST of them believe?



http://www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/007891.html

Andrew Bostom writes:

    Polling data just released (April 24, 2007) in a rigorously conducted face-to-face University of Maryland/ WorldPublicOpinion.org interview survey of 4384 Muslims conducted between December 9, 2006 and February 15, 2007—1000 Moroccans, 1000 Egyptians, 1243 Pakistanis, and 1141 Indonesians—reveal that 65.2% of those interviewed—almost 2/3, hardly a “fringe minority”—desired this outcome (i.e., “To unify all Islamic countries into a single Islamic state or Caliphate”), including 49% of “moderate” Indonesian Muslims. The internal validity of these data about the present longing for a Caliphate is strongly suggested by a concordant result: 65.5% of this Muslim sample approved the proposition “To require a strict [emphasis added] application of Shari’a law in every Islamic country.”

If two-thirds of Muslims, both Arab and non-Arab, are believers in sharia, then sharia is the dominant belief system of the Muslim world—not just because all authoritative Muslim teaching says it is, but because the great majority of Muslims accept that teaching. Which means that wherever there is a Muslim community, of whatever size, belief in sharia will be the dominant belief or at least an important belief in that community. Which means that in any country where the number of Muslims increases, belief in sharia and the political strength to impose it will also increase.

Sharia destroys all non-Islamic forms of government, destroys all non-Islamic forms of freedom, and reduces all non-Muslims to at best a humiliated second-class status. Therefore anyone who believes in sharia cannot be loyal to Western society, whether we define the West in traditional terms as Christendom or in modern terms as individual freedom.

Therefore excluding terrorists and terror supporters is not enough. Excluding jihadists and jihad supporters—also known as “radical” Muslims—is not enough. Terror and jihad are only the more activist phrase of the Islamic belief system. They are the methods by which sharia is spread. It is sharia that defines the substance of Islam and it is sharia that is the problem.

Therefore, in place of the fatuous and delusive mantra of Daniel Pipes, that “Radical Islam is the problem, and moderate Islam is the solution,” the correct mantra is what I have been saying over and over for years, that “Significant numbers of Muslims do not belong in any Western country, period.”
legendary
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October 18, 2014, 10:57:42 AM
As long as they respect the Non Agression Principle, I don't care what they do, or in what they believe.
legendary
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October 18, 2014, 09:03:12 AM
I'm with you on someone, but Islam is just something. It appear most people thinks of Muslims when the subject is Islam.
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October 18, 2014, 08:56:34 AM
Hate comes from ignorance.
People don't research facts but believes in media reports and propaganda.
I feel people are to much brainwashed in today's society by the media and governments and don't think with their brains anymore.

So I take you don't hate Nazism or Fascism, right?

I didn't say i don't hate islam..

and, it's much easier to hate than accept someone  Smiley
legendary
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October 18, 2014, 08:41:39 AM
Hate comes from ignorance.
People don't research facts but believes in media reports and propaganda.
I feel people are to much brainwashed in today's society by the media and governments and don't think with their brains anymore.

So I take you don't hate Nazism or Fascism, right?
sr. member
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October 18, 2014, 07:08:28 AM
Why do YOU hate islam?

I don't hate islam =) I don't hate any religion. But yes it's true that many people afraid of islam. It's because 90% of terrorists are islamic.


Terrorist Attacks on U.S. Soil by Group, From 1980 to 2005, According to the FBI Database

Ok, now count all the terroristic attacks around the world for the last decade. Not us only.

Not "us"? Elaborate please

USA - United states of america

Well I'm not going to waste my time counting it all

A list of violent groups (except governments) can be found here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_designated_terrorist_organizations
sr. member
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October 18, 2014, 06:50:14 AM
Hate comes from ignorance.
People don't research facts but believes in media reports and propaganda.
I feel people are to much brainwashed in today's society by the media and governments and don't think with their brains anymore.
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October 18, 2014, 06:32:21 AM
Why do YOU hate islam?

I don't hate islam =) I don't hate any religion. But yes it's true that many people afraid of islam. It's because 90% of terrorists are islamic.


Terrorist Attacks on U.S. Soil by Group, From 1980 to 2005, According to the FBI Database

Ok, now count all the terroristic attacks around the world for the last decade. Not us only.

Not "us"? Elaborate please

USA - United states of america

Well I'm not going to waste my time counting it all
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hyperboria - next internet
October 18, 2014, 06:19:10 AM
Why do YOU hate islam?

I don't hate islam =) I don't hate any religion. But yes it's true that many people afraid of islam. It's because 90% of terrorists are islamic.


Terrorist Attacks on U.S. Soil by Group, From 1980 to 2005, According to the FBI Database

Ok, now count all the terroristic attacks around the world for the last decade. Not us only.

Not "us"? Elaborate please

USA - United states of america
hero member
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October 18, 2014, 06:12:22 AM
Why do YOU hate islam?

I don't hate islam =) I don't hate any religion. But yes it's true that many people afraid of islam. It's because 90% of terrorists are islamic.


Terrorist Attacks on U.S. Soil by Group, From 1980 to 2005, According to the FBI Database

Ok, now count all the terroristic attacks around the world for the last decade. Not us only.

Not "us"? Elaborate please
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hyperboria - next internet
October 18, 2014, 06:10:01 AM
Why do YOU hate islam?

I don't hate islam =) I don't hate any religion. But yes it's true that many people afraid of islam. It's because 90% of terrorists are islamic.


Terrorist Attacks on U.S. Soil by Group, From 1980 to 2005, According to the FBI Database

Ok, now count all the terroristic attacks around the world for the last decade. Not us only.
hero member
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October 18, 2014, 02:23:40 AM
Why do YOU hate islam?

I don't hate islam =) I don't hate any religion. But yes it's true that many people afraid of islam. It's because 90% of terrorists are islamic.


Terrorist Attacks on U.S. Soil by Group, From 1980 to 2005, According to the FBI Database

I assume, given the source, that we're leaving government agents out of the equation Cheesy

Well done. I didn't have figures to back it, but I knew that was wrong.

Also, the "Communists, 5%" is just bullshit because in COINTEL Pro (Google it) Communists were victims of mass surveillance and FBI setups
legendary
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October 16, 2014, 02:38:45 PM
Yeah, you know what a "good Muslim" would say to this, they would say those are bad people, they are not muslims, they are deviant sect.

I agree with you, but don't misrepresent Muslims as supporting ISIS.  Look at this thread, a number have commented on these atrocities and distanced themselves and their beliefs from such things.

If your point is the theoretical ability of a "Muslim" to support the committing of atrocities cherry picking the old books, yeah, that's a problem.

Amen to that. Many Muslims are quite nice people, most if you avoid the religion theme.
But for big G sake! They have to stop wandering around carrying a book telling them to kill pretty much everyone. Isn't them the problem, is the damn book! And I can't say the Quran and the Hadith aren't interesting in the literary level, they are, just that they are to read as we read Odyssey, Iliad and many other classical pieces. Not to take that thing by the letter! We are no longer at VII Century!

And they have to listen to what we have to say, as well as we should listen to the moderates among them.  Because we, both those who are Christian and those who are Kafir, know precisely what we are talking about on this subject.

Rick Perry, Texas Governor, talking in London.

 “But to every extremist, it has to be made clear: We will not allow you to exploit our tolerance, so that you can import your intolerance. We will not let you destroy our peace with your violent ideas. If you expect to live among us and yet plan against us to receive the protections and comforts of a free society while showing none of its virtues or graces then you can have our answer now: No, not on our watch! You will live by exactly the standards that the rest of us live by. And if that comes as jarring news then welcome to civilization.”

Look. In our modern world, people don't want to hate anyone.

O sure, there are little hatreds flaring all around. You know, like your neighbor hates you 'cause you have a newer car than they do.

The only reason people hate Islam is because of the things that the religion says and causes its people to do. And that is, to violently hate everyone who isn't of the Islam religion, and to violently do something about them whenever the opportunity arises.

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legendary
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October 14, 2014, 07:22:37 PM
Yeah, you know what a "good Muslim" would say to this, they would say those are bad people, they are not muslims, they are deviant sect.

I agree with you, but don't misrepresent Muslims as supporting ISIS.  Look at this thread, a number have commented on these atrocities and distanced themselves and their beliefs from such things.

If your point is the theoretical ability of a "Muslim" to support the committing of atrocities cherry picking the old books, yeah, that's a problem.

Amen to that. Many Muslims are quite nice people, most if you avoid the religion theme.
But for big G sake! They have to stop wandering around carrying a book telling them to kill pretty much everyone. Isn't them the problem, is the damn book! And I can't say the Quran and the Hadith aren't interesting in the literary level, they are, just that they are to read as we read Odyssey, Iliad and many other classical pieces. Not to take that thing by the letter! We are no longer at VII Century!

And they have to listen to what we have to say, as well as we should listen to the moderates among them.  Because we, both those who are Christian and those who are Kafir, know precisely what we are talking about on this subject.

Rick Perry, Texas Governor, talking in London.

 “But to every extremist, it has to be made clear: We will not allow you to exploit our tolerance, so that you can import your intolerance. We will not let you destroy our peace with your violent ideas. If you expect to live among us and yet plan against us to receive the protections and comforts of a free society while showing none of its virtues or graces then you can have our answer now: No, not on our watch! You will live by exactly the standards that the rest of us live by. And if that comes as jarring news then welcome to civilization.”
legendary
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October 14, 2014, 04:13:31 PM
Yeah, you know what a "good Muslim" would say to this, they would say those are bad people, they are not muslims, they are deviant sect.

I agree with you, but don't misrepresent Muslims as supporting ISIS.  Look at this thread, a number have commented on these atrocities and distanced themselves and their beliefs from such things.

If your point is the theoretical ability of a "Muslim" to support the committing of atrocities cherry picking the old books, yeah, that's a problem.

Amen to that. Many Muslims are quite nice people, most if you avoid the religion theme.
But for big G sake! They have to stop wandering around carrying a book telling them to kill pretty much everyone. Isn't them the problem, is the damn book! And I can't say the Quran and the Hadith aren't interesting in the literary level, they are, just that they are to read as we read Odyssey, Iliad and many other classical pieces. Not to take that thing by the letter! We are no longer at VII Century!
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