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Why do people hate islam?
Wrong question. The right question is: why do islamists hate people?
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Wrong question. The right question is: why do islamists hate people?
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Why do people hate islam?
Wrong question. The right question is: why do islamists hate people?
I don't hate any religion, neither i hate the islam. But in my opinion religion is really a bad thing, not good for anything and I never saw I valid reason why someone should believe in God, Jesus, Allah, Budha or whatever which person. Thinking about 9/11, Al Qaida, Isis... 
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But you are right, no biggie. Except this is what started it all imho.
So i was just trying to illustrate the "contrived nonsens" spilled by the US gov regarding islam>islamists>terrorists.
Snowden provided with documents linking the US agencies to Al qaeda, syrian/irakian/libyan rebels, or even isis.
You should know better anyway, hanging around in the global warming thread..
There is no such thing as conspiracy. its yet another word/expression to decredibilize instantly anyone that happens to think past certain dogmas.. aka "deniers" aka "antisemite"..
Anyway, the more important being we agree there is nothing to be afraid about islam. I mean real islam.
ps: funny that story about bin laden's bro. makes you wonder even more.. ^^
I understand fully what you are saying and I am refuting with historical reality.But you are right, no biggie. Except this is what started it all imho.
So i was just trying to illustrate the "contrived nonsens" spilled by the US gov regarding islam>islamists>terrorists.
Snowden provided with documents linking the US agencies to Al qaeda, syrian/irakian/libyan rebels, or even isis.
You should know better anyway, hanging around in the global warming thread..
There is no such thing as conspiracy. its yet another word/expression to decredibilize instantly anyone that happens to think past certain dogmas.. aka "deniers" aka "antisemite"..
Anyway, the more important being we agree there is nothing to be afraid about islam. I mean real islam.
ps: funny that story about bin laden's bro. makes you wonder even more.. ^^
Islamic terror groups all have their origin in the writings of Sayd Qutb, a far radical guy who was imprisoned and eventually executed by Nassir in Egypt. Muslim brotherhood dude.
Iran was a secular country. There was as I recall little propaganda in the USA that attempted to link Iran with terrorist activity.
it is not about who exactly planted the first seed and for what reasons (although that is still debatable), but who had contributed to make it flourish and profit whilst watering it further more..
Well, in my point of view; islam's believers killed my ancestors and made my ancestors muslim. This guy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qutayba_ibn_Muslim Killed thousands of Turkish. After Qutayba "III. Vlad" (a.k.a Dracula) made the same thing but he got reasons.
Well, As a Turkish, I'm believing old Gods, Basically I'm a Tengriist.
Well, As a Turkish, I'm believing old Gods, Basically I'm a Tengriist.
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But you are right, no biggie. Except this is what started it all imho.
So i was just trying to illustrate the "contrived nonsens" spilled by the US gov regarding islam>islamists>terrorists.
Snowden provided with documents linking the US agencies to Al qaeda, syrian/irakian/libyan rebels, or even isis.
You should know better anyway, hanging around in the global warming thread..
There is no such thing as conspiracy. its yet another word/expression to decredibilize instantly anyone that happens to think past certain dogmas.. aka "deniers" aka "antisemite"..
Anyway, the more important being we agree there is nothing to be afraid about islam. I mean real islam.
ps: funny that story about bin laden's bro. makes you wonder even more.. ^^
I understand fully what you are saying and I am refuting with historical reality.But you are right, no biggie. Except this is what started it all imho.
So i was just trying to illustrate the "contrived nonsens" spilled by the US gov regarding islam>islamists>terrorists.
Snowden provided with documents linking the US agencies to Al qaeda, syrian/irakian/libyan rebels, or even isis.
You should know better anyway, hanging around in the global warming thread..
There is no such thing as conspiracy. its yet another word/expression to decredibilize instantly anyone that happens to think past certain dogmas.. aka "deniers" aka "antisemite"..
Anyway, the more important being we agree there is nothing to be afraid about islam. I mean real islam.
ps: funny that story about bin laden's bro. makes you wonder even more.. ^^
Islamic terror groups all have their origin in the writings of Sayd Qutb, a far radical guy who was imprisoned and eventually executed by Nassir in Egypt. Muslim brotherhood dude.
Iran was a secular country. There was as I recall little propaganda in the USA that attempted to link Iran with terrorist activity.
why do people hate islam? because the USA made them whilst funding/training islamic terrorists al qaeda, isis et al.
http://fr.awdnews.com/politique/5794-un-ancien-d%E2%80%99al-qa%C3%AFda-d%C3%A9nonce-la-collaboration-entre-l%E2%80%99eiil-et-la-cia.html
fear and taxes TM
Bah, propaganda.http://fr.awdnews.com/politique/5794-un-ancien-d%E2%80%99al-qa%C3%AFda-d%C3%A9nonce-la-collaboration-entre-l%E2%80%99eiil-et-la-cia.html
fear and taxes TM
Islamic terror groups all have their origin in the writings of Sayd Qutb, a far radical guy who was imprisoned and eventually executed by Nassir in Egypt. Muslim brotherhood dude.
Three letters man, three letters... C. I. A.
Cant test 'em.
edit: for the lulz meet little oussama bin laden and his family.. ....
This is contrived nonsense.
Family? So what?
I knew one of Bin Laden's brothers, he was a straight up guy. Not crazy or radical.
Later he mysteriously died or was killed. You know what? I don't have to build conspiracy theories about it. Maybe this maybe that.
Cmon Man, im not talking conspiracy theories. Just observing to whom the crime really benefits. As in profits and big picture.
The thing i was refering about my family there is that it confronted me to their nonsens propaganda that sadam hussein did the 911 coup back in 2001.
But you are right, no biggie. Except this is what started it all imho.
So i was just trying to illustrate the "contrived nonsens" spilled by the US gov regarding islam>islamists>terrorists.
Snowden provided with documents linking the US agencies to Al qaeda, syrian/irakian/libyan rebels, or even isis.
You should know better anyway, hanging around in the global warming thread..
There is no such thing as conspiracy. its yet another word/expression to decredibilize instantly anyone that happens to think past certain dogmas.. aka "deniers" aka "antisemite"..
Anyway, the more important being we agree there is nothing to be afraid about islam. I mean real islam.
ps: funny that story about bin laden's bro. makes you wonder even more.. ^^
why do people hate islam? because the USA made them whilst funding/training islamic terrorists al qaeda, isis et al.
http://fr.awdnews.com/politique/5794-un-ancien-d%E2%80%99al-qa%C3%AFda-d%C3%A9nonce-la-collaboration-entre-l%E2%80%99eiil-et-la-cia.html
fear and taxes TM
Bah, propaganda.http://fr.awdnews.com/politique/5794-un-ancien-d%E2%80%99al-qa%C3%AFda-d%C3%A9nonce-la-collaboration-entre-l%E2%80%99eiil-et-la-cia.html
fear and taxes TM
Islamic terror groups all have their origin in the writings of Sayd Qutb, a far radical guy who was imprisoned and eventually executed by Nassir in Egypt. Muslim brotherhood dude.
Three letters man, three letters... C. I. A.
Cant test 'em.
edit: for the lulz meet little oussama bin laden and his family.. ....
This is contrived nonsense.
Family? So what?
I knew one of Bin Laden's brothers, he was a straight up guy. Not crazy or radical.
Later he mysteriously died or was killed. You know what? I don't have to build conspiracy theories about it. Maybe this maybe that.
why do people hate islam? because the USA made them whilst funding/training islamic terrorists al qaeda, isis et al.
http://fr.awdnews.com/politique/5794-un-ancien-d%E2%80%99al-qa%C3%AFda-d%C3%A9nonce-la-collaboration-entre-l%E2%80%99eiil-et-la-cia.html
fear and taxes TM
Bah, propaganda.http://fr.awdnews.com/politique/5794-un-ancien-d%E2%80%99al-qa%C3%AFda-d%C3%A9nonce-la-collaboration-entre-l%E2%80%99eiil-et-la-cia.html
fear and taxes TM
Islamic terror groups all have their origin in the writings of Sayd Qutb, a far radical guy who was imprisoned and eventually executed by Nassir in Egypt. Muslim brotherhood dude.
Three letters man, three letters... C. I. A.
Cant test 'em.
edit: for the lulz meet little oussama bin laden and his family..
911 provided a hell of an argument to mess up all the middle east, get the oil, whilst also restricting personal liberties rights in the US.
I have family in the US. the brainwashing is just insane.
Proper intelligencia check mate.
for teh records this is what i call propaganda:
Of course there are blinded lost folks that do filthy shit, but they are just puppets, simple cannon fodder for higher capitalistic goals..
+ they get paid for the more alaouakbar they say (in marketing, we call it "gimmick"). + they have murdered each other in greater number than occidentals
So its almost a clean sheet for the US gov, and its not the sensational professionally orchestrated youtube beheadings that matters so much.
What really matters is that it provided yet another argument to invade Irak, Syria being a bonus, for the time the US were trying to figure how to demise its pretty resilient president al Assad..
Anyhow, such violence is certainly not because of islam, which, by the book, and as a whole, is a peaceful and rational religion..
Muslims are just the perfect scapegoat of our modern (occidental) world..
The race for world domination and ressource control having accelerated in the last couple decades.
and then more.. fear and taxesTM
edit edit: and more lulz
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http://www.latesthackingnews.com/2014/11/27/syrian-electronic-army-hacked-uk-based-websites/why do people hate islam? because the USA made them whilst funding/training islamic terrorists al qaeda, isis et al.
http://fr.awdnews.com/politique/5794-un-ancien-d%E2%80%99al-qa%C3%AFda-d%C3%A9nonce-la-collaboration-entre-l%E2%80%99eiil-et-la-cia.html
fear and taxes TM
Bah, propaganda.http://fr.awdnews.com/politique/5794-un-ancien-d%E2%80%99al-qa%C3%AFda-d%C3%A9nonce-la-collaboration-entre-l%E2%80%99eiil-et-la-cia.html
fear and taxes TM
Islamic terror groups all have their origin in the writings of Sayd Qutb, a far radical guy who was imprisoned and eventually executed by Nassir in Egypt. Muslim brotherhood dude.
why do people hate islam? because the USA made them whilst funding/training islamic terrorists al qaeda, isis et al.
http://fr.awdnews.com/politique/5794-un-ancien-d%E2%80%99al-qa%C3%AFda-d%C3%A9nonce-la-collaboration-entre-l%E2%80%99eiil-et-la-cia.html
fear and taxes TM
http://fr.awdnews.com/politique/5794-un-ancien-d%E2%80%99al-qa%C3%AFda-d%C3%A9nonce-la-collaboration-entre-l%E2%80%99eiil-et-la-cia.html
fear and taxes TM
Reddit: Retired soldiers describe what they saw and experienced and never told anyone: http://www.dailypaul.com/329802/reddit-retired-soldiers-describe-what-they-saw-and-experienced-and-never-told-anyone :
More at https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/2n269n/serious_retired_soldiers_on_reddit_what_was/ .
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A boy in Afghanistan would always tell us "bad no" where suspected IEDs were at. He would stack rocks within at least 10 ft from the IED. We gave the kid everything in return. Food and candy. Fuck I even gave him my DS. One day, we found him strung up on a tree. The Taliban found out and killed him. I get sort of emotional when I start playing pokemon now a days.
Fuck that's terrible....
One of my best buds got drunk and fell off the barracks. They labelled it an accident. It was actually a suicide over a girl.
I know, not too interesting, but I thought I'd share. Never told anyone. Always felt guilty.
That sucks bro, I've witnessed 2 suicides in my military career. One in a very similar circumstance to that. Alcohol, young men, and breakups are a very bad combination.
My very first patient in Afghanistan was a 10month girl.
The father brought her to our gate asking for help. We checked her out and she is literally missing all of the skin from shoulder blade to waist on her back left side. Burned to the bone. Dad tells terp that she tripped and got cut up by gravel.
Clearly she is burned. I can smell it still today. I can remember the screech she made. The charred skin I had to remove.
And that asshole just sat in the corner. Nothing I can do to right the situation other than do what I can for her.
That single moment definitely set the tempo for the following 9 months.
Why did he burn her?
In Afghanistan its not uncommon for the father of a screaming baby to dip the baby into boiling water to "stop them from crying". saw the same thing during my time there. Father claimed he spilled but it was clear she was dipped.
Why would they think that would make a kid STOP crying?
I was posted with Brits for a tour and the hospital on base was used for locals and absolute emergencies for coalition forces as better treatment was available a short distance away. Talking with the British docs that worked there I ask what they see the most. They said burnt children. I inquired about it and they said they would boil water to heat it up to bathe the kids but wouldnt check the temp before dunking the kids. I walked through that hospital multiple times a day for work. Wont forget the one time I saw one of those kids on a gurney through a door.
Fuck that's terrible....
One of my best buds got drunk and fell off the barracks. They labelled it an accident. It was actually a suicide over a girl.
I know, not too interesting, but I thought I'd share. Never told anyone. Always felt guilty.
That sucks bro, I've witnessed 2 suicides in my military career. One in a very similar circumstance to that. Alcohol, young men, and breakups are a very bad combination.
My very first patient in Afghanistan was a 10month girl.
The father brought her to our gate asking for help. We checked her out and she is literally missing all of the skin from shoulder blade to waist on her back left side. Burned to the bone. Dad tells terp that she tripped and got cut up by gravel.
Clearly she is burned. I can smell it still today. I can remember the screech she made. The charred skin I had to remove.
And that asshole just sat in the corner. Nothing I can do to right the situation other than do what I can for her.
That single moment definitely set the tempo for the following 9 months.
Why did he burn her?
In Afghanistan its not uncommon for the father of a screaming baby to dip the baby into boiling water to "stop them from crying". saw the same thing during my time there. Father claimed he spilled but it was clear she was dipped.
Why would they think that would make a kid STOP crying?
I was posted with Brits for a tour and the hospital on base was used for locals and absolute emergencies for coalition forces as better treatment was available a short distance away. Talking with the British docs that worked there I ask what they see the most. They said burnt children. I inquired about it and they said they would boil water to heat it up to bathe the kids but wouldnt check the temp before dunking the kids. I walked through that hospital multiple times a day for work. Wont forget the one time I saw one of those kids on a gurney through a door.
More at https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/2n269n/serious_retired_soldiers_on_reddit_what_was/ .
Hey! It's a proven fact that people who hate other people enough to murder them, especially through suicide bombings, usually hate themselves more. The real question is, why do Muslims hate Islam?
That's relatively easy to answer, unfortunately.A religion/culture/tribal that fosters and breeds hate in it's people will of course find that mostly focused on close in targets.
Make no mistake. The day will come when "Islam" will push things one step too far, and they will be put down.
Hey! It's a proven fact that people who hate other people enough to murder them, especially through suicide bombings, usually hate themselves more. The real question is, why do Muslims hate Islam?
Turns ironic. Sharia is 90%+ the cause their countries are the shithole that mades them run to the West, even if they prefer to go the losers way and keep find scape goats. Yet they insist to defend that non-sense.
As long as they respect the Non Agression Principle, I don't care what they do, or in what they believe.
Well, what do MOST of them believe?
http://www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/007891.html
Andrew Bostom writes:
Polling data just released (April 24, 2007) in a rigorously conducted face-to-face University of Maryland/ WorldPublicOpinion.org interview survey of 4384 Muslims conducted between December 9, 2006 and February 15, 2007—1000 Moroccans, 1000 Egyptians, 1243 Pakistanis, and 1141 Indonesians—reveal that 65.2% of those interviewed—almost 2/3, hardly a “fringe minority”—desired this outcome (i.e., “To unify all Islamic countries into a single Islamic state or Caliphate”), including 49% of “moderate” Indonesian Muslims. The internal validity of these data about the present longing for a Caliphate is strongly suggested by a concordant result: 65.5% of this Muslim sample approved the proposition “To require a strict [emphasis added] application of Shari’a law in every Islamic country.”
If two-thirds of Muslims, both Arab and non-Arab, are believers in sharia, then sharia is the dominant belief system of the Muslim world—not just because all authoritative Muslim teaching says it is, but because the great majority of Muslims accept that teaching. Which means that wherever there is a Muslim community, of whatever size, belief in sharia will be the dominant belief or at least an important belief in that community. Which means that in any country where the number of Muslims increases, belief in sharia and the political strength to impose it will also increase.
Sharia destroys all non-Islamic forms of government, destroys all non-Islamic forms of freedom, and reduces all non-Muslims to at best a humiliated second-class status. Therefore anyone who believes in sharia cannot be loyal to Western society, whether we define the West in traditional terms as Christendom or in modern terms as individual freedom.
Therefore excluding terrorists and terror supporters is not enough. Excluding jihadists and jihad supporters—also known as “radical” Muslims—is not enough. Terror and jihad are only the more activist phrase of the Islamic belief system. They are the methods by which sharia is spread. It is sharia that defines the substance of Islam and it is sharia that is the problem.
Therefore, in place of the fatuous and delusive mantra of Daniel Pipes, that “Radical Islam is the problem, and moderate Islam is the solution,” the correct mantra is what I have been saying over and over for years, that “Significant numbers of Muslims do not belong in any Western country, period.”
As long as they respect the Non Agression Principle, I don't care what they do, or in what they believe.
I'm with you on someone, but Islam is just something. It appear most people thinks of Muslims when the subject is Islam.
Hate comes from ignorance.
People don't research facts but believes in media reports and propaganda.
I feel people are to much brainwashed in today's society by the media and governments and don't think with their brains anymore.
People don't research facts but believes in media reports and propaganda.
I feel people are to much brainwashed in today's society by the media and governments and don't think with their brains anymore.
So I take you don't hate Nazism or Fascism, right?
I didn't say i don't hate islam..
and, it's much easier to hate than accept someone
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