Topic: Why do people hate islam? - page 106. (Read 221009 times)

Why do you assume people hate Islam? And don't just say "media".

We might try to understand why people are joining the Islamic state. It may be comforting to think of these people as crazy, but it is not correct. Many of these guys were young and unemployed. They come from broken dictatorships and monarchies and the only legitimate, trustworthy institution they have known is Islam.
For them, the Islamic state seems to offer a paradise where the only law is God's law. The wicked are punished instead of promoted and the streets are safe all night. All this is very appealing to the disenfranchised. I bet some of them change their mind once they arrive in Raqqa and see the very human brutality that IS's version of Islam represents.

There is nothing particular about Islam. Like all religions they believe they are right and everyone else is deluded. That is the real problem. 

Should point out that it reaches a point where it doesn't really matter WHO created the Islamists terrorists. Nutjobs are going to be nutjobs no matter who decides to stir the pot. It becomes a matter of, should you shoot the rabid dog before or after he bites somebody? If you don't want to go through a painful treatment for rabies (and have the dog put down anyway while cussing out the owner for not realizing that the dog was showing signs of rabies), you shoot the dog before he bites you. And I really don't care if you use bombs that are made by the military-industrial complex as long as you kill the nutjobs before they do what the voice in their heads that they think is Allah tells them to do and kill a lot of innocent people.

It's not and don't let yourself be told otherwise. Butthurt religious people are their own problem, and as long as they hold some beliefs like they are the 'chosen people', or that it is a duty to spread religion even through holy war, or any other number of abhorrent concepts, they deserve no break in ridicule or criticism.

Sure dude, Whenever you want. Buy you've to buy my plane ticket (and my visa if you're abroad) etc
I can get my passport, don't worry about that

I thing people just like to point out the big holes it has. All the laws people just find ridiculous, and I don't disagree.

I get it. Turkish coffee.   

Or girlfriends.

That would be a rather hateful state of affairs.

We'll have to have some coffee sometime.

Indeed, the general islamic person has a more negative feeling about the others than opposite 

Wrong question. The right question is: why do islamists hate people?

I don't hate any religion, neither i hate the islam. But in my opinion religion is really a bad thing, not good for anything and I never saw I valid reason why someone should believe in God, Jesus, Allah, Budha or whatever which person. Thinking about 9/11, Al Qaida, Isis... 

it is not about who exactly planted the first seed and for what reasons (although that is still debatable), but who had contributed to make it flourish and profit whilst watering it further more..

Well, in my point of view; islam's believers killed my ancestors and made my ancestors muslim. This guy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qutayba_ibn_Muslim Killed thousands of Turkish. After Qutayba "III. Vlad" (a.k.a Dracula) made the same thing but he got reasons.

Well, As a Turkish, I'm believing old Gods, Basically I'm a Tengriist.

I understand fully what you are saying and I am refuting with historical reality.

Islamic terror groups all have their origin in the writings of Sayd Qutb, a far radical guy who was imprisoned and eventually executed by Nassir in Egypt.  Muslim brotherhood dude.

Iran was a secular country.  There was as I recall little propaganda in the USA that attempted to link Iran with terrorist activity.

Cmon Man, im not talking conspiracy theories. Just observing to whom the crime really benefits. As in profits and big picture.
The thing i was refering about my family there is that it confronted me to their nonsens propaganda that sadam hussein did the 911 coup back in 2001.
But you are right, no biggie. Except this is what started it all imho.

So i was just trying to illustrate the "contrived nonsens" spilled by the US gov regarding islam>islamists>terrorists.

Snowden provided with documents linking the US agencies to Al qaeda, syrian/irakian/libyan rebels, or even isis.
You should know better anyway, hanging around in the global warming thread..
There is no such thing as conspiracy. its yet another word/expression to decredibilize instantly anyone that happens to think past certain dogmas.. aka "deniers" aka "antisemite"..

Anyway, the more important being we agree there is nothing to be afraid about islam. I mean real islam.

ps: funny that story about bin laden's bro. makes you wonder even more.. ^^

This is contrived nonsense.

Family?  So what? 

I knew one of Bin Laden's brothers, he was a straight up guy.  Not crazy or radical.

Later he mysteriously died or was killed.  You know what?  I don't have to build conspiracy theories about it.  Maybe this maybe that.

Three letters man, three letters... C. I. A.
Cant test 'em.

edit: for the lulz meet little oussama bin laden and his family..



911 provided a hell of an argument to mess up all the middle east, get the oil, whilst also restricting personal liberties rights in the US.
I have family in the US. the brainwashing is just insane.
Proper intelligencia check mate.

for teh records this is what i call propaganda:



Of course there are blinded lost folks that do filthy shit, but they are just puppets, simple cannon fodder for higher capitalistic goals..
+ they get paid for the more alaouakbar they say (in marketing, we call it "gimmick"). + they have murdered each other in greater number than occidentals

So its almost a clean sheet for the US gov, and its not the sensational professionally orchestrated youtube beheadings that matters so much.
What really matters is that it provided yet another argument to invade Irak, Syria being a bonus, for the time the US were trying to figure how to demise its pretty resilient president al Assad..

Anyhow, such violence is certainly not because of islam, which, by the book, and as a whole, is a peaceful and rational religion..

Muslims are just the perfect scapegoat of our modern (occidental) world..
The race for world domination and ressource control having accelerated in the last couple decades.

and then more.. fear and taxes^TM



edit edit: and more lulz
http://www.latesthackingnews.com/2014/11/27/syrian-electronic-army-hacked-uk-based-websites/

Bah, propaganda.

Islamic terror groups all have their origin in the writings of Sayd Qutb, a far radical guy who was imprisoned and eventually executed by Nassir in Egypt.  Muslim brotherhood dude.

why do people hate islam? because the USA made them whilst funding/training islamic terrorists al qaeda, isis et al.

http://fr.awdnews.com/politique/5794-un-ancien-d%E2%80%99al-qa%C3%AFda-d%C3%A9nonce-la-collaboration-entre-l%E2%80%99eiil-et-la-cia.html

fear and taxes ^TM