Not all Muslims are like you think they are from what you see on TV.
So what? The topic is about Islam, not Muslims.
Topic: Why do people hate islam? - page 112. (Read 221009 times)
So what? The topic is about Islam, not Muslims.
Not all Muslims are like you think they are from what you see on TV.
Why people hate it ?
Because this fact...
Terorism....
From any religion that i known,
this is the worst.
No offence but this is the truth.
Because this fact...
Terorism....
From any religion that i known,
this is the worst.
No offence but this is the truth.
Just ask the people they've beheaded recently.
Hard to ask headless people anything, unless you're interviewing a Fox host
If you can find these headless people, I don't see what would be so hard about asking them anything. I wouldn't expect much of an answer, though.
Islam fight with everyone
Just ask the people they've beheaded recently.
Hard to ask headless people anything, unless you're interviewing a Fox host
Islam hates everyone who is not Islamic. They even hate each other. Shiite vs. Sunni. Just ask the people they've beheaded recently.
Saying people hate Islam is a generalization.
Not everyone hates Islam.
Radical Islam.... That's what people hate.
Things like this are unacceptable:
Quran:
Kill disbelievers wherever you find them. If they attack you, then kill them. Such is the reward of disbelievers. (But if they desist in their unbelief, then don't kill them.) 2:191-2
Plenty more:
http://dttj.blogspot.com/2010/08/intolerance-toward-non-muslims-in-quran.html
Interesting thing I found just googling "why hate Islam"... this list....
Don't take Jews or Christians for friends. If you do, Allah will consider you to be one of them. 5:51
The curse of Allah is on disbelievers. 2:89
Allah is an enemy to the disbelievers. 2:98
For disbelievers is a painful doom." 2:104
Allah will make disbelievers' miserable in this world and torture them forever after they die. 2:114
Disbelievers are losers. 2:121
The doom of the disbelievers will not be lightened. 2:162
Kill disbelievers wherever you find them. If they attack you, then kil them. Such is the reward of disbelievers. (But if they desist in their unbelief, then don't kill them.) 2:191-2
Allah says that you must keep fighting until there is no more persecution and everyone on earth is a Muslim. Then you can stop killing people. 2:193a
Intermarriage is forbidden. 2:221
Let not the believers take disbelievers for their friends in preference to believers. 3:28
Don't believe anyone who is not a Muslim. 3:73
Don't be friends with non-Muslims. They all hate you and want to ruin you. 3:118
Have no unbelieving friends. Kill the unbelievers wherever you find them. 4:89
The disbelievers are an open enemy to you. 4:101
Do not choose disbelievers as friends. 4:144
Never help disbelievers. 28:86
The disbelievers, they are the wrong-doers." 2:254
Non-muslims will be punished by Allah for their nonbelief. 3:19
We shall cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Their habitation is the Fire 3:151
Christians and Jews must believe what Allah has revealed to Muhammad or Allah will disfigure their faces or turn them into apes, as he did the Sabbath-breakers. (See 2:65-66) 4:47
If the unbelievers do not offer you peace, kill them wherever you find them. Against such you are given clear warrant. 4:91
Non-muslims are wrong doers. 5:45
Jews and Christians are evil-livers. 5:59
Those who deny Muhammad's revelations are like dogs. 7:176
Fight disbelievers who are near you, and let them see the harshness in you. 9:123
Allah hates disbelievers. 35:26
And then a comment...
https://malaysia.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20130429050316AAq2MOs
Islam has to eradicate from its codex all notions of killing as a justified means to an end. So long as this sort of 'code' exists the programming is allowed to be carried out by the mules. Then there are the cultural overtones that exacerbate the ability for rational people to accept 'Muslims' since so many practice in country's where people are treated like dirt, especially women. Finally, all religons have a egoist based condition that is problamatic. No prophet would espouse death and destruction much less treating people like dirt. It is the egoists who create these conditions and then hide their despicable behavior behind the cloak of 'religion' or religiosity to justify their actions.
I lean toward agreeing with the above part "eradicate from its codex all notions of killing as a justified means to an end". If you gave people a "holy book" with this stuff, then some percentage of wackos are simply going to act on it and feel they are justified. Like they are and have been doing.
Saying people hate Islam is a generalization.
Not everyone hates Islam.
Radical Islam.... That's what people hate.
Things like this are unacceptable:
Quran:
Kill disbelievers wherever you find them. If they attack you, then kill them. Such is the reward of disbelievers. (But if they desist in their unbelief, then don't kill them.) 2:191-2
Plenty more:
http://dttj.blogspot.com/2010/08/intolerance-toward-non-muslims-in-quran.html
You need a really good teacher, because the Koran suggests the use of all kinds of underhanded and direct violence against those who are not Muslim. And this isn't something that was done in the past, only. It is orders and directions for live Muslims everywhere. It's just that most Muslims have natural love in their hearts for all people, and that's why they don't follow the directives, literally, like they are ordered to.
Sure, Islam is good. It is good for this life and for Muslims, but not for anybody else.
It doesn't get EVEN ONE OF ITS BELIEVERS into Heaven. It is a lie in that regard.
This does not address the issue of bad teachers and bad people, of course.
(Part I have crossed out is part I personally cannot agree with. Although I am an athiest, if this belief is wrong I would hope to be judged by my deeds, not by adherence to one or another old book. I would hope the same for those who for cultural, family or any other reason follow one of the many religions.)
Judgment by deeds is the reason why people are lost. NOBODY can be good enough to be saved. Judgment by deeds is only there to determine the quantity and quality of destruction in the afterlife. We all need to find a reason or way to get God to GIVE us salvation, other than because we deserve it. Why? We aren't good enough to deserve it at all.
I'm an atheist, but whatever. Even were I not, I would severely disagree with this. The whole "original sin" argument has never made any sort of rational sense. We are what we are, and only by deeds can we devolve or evolve into something lesser or greater. What you think has no morality, it's what you DO.
The whole original sin argument IS the ONLY thing that makes sense. After all, you only get what was handed down to you from the DNA of your parents. They got it from theirs. And they from theirs, all the way back to the beginning. If it is mistakes in the DNA, then it is ORIGINAL MISTAKES (mistakes = sins).
We are coming upon an age that is able to change DNA. We are even able to change the DNA throughout an adult person's whole body right now. It is a bit dangerous to do. And it needs a lot more study. But it has been done to correct problems in the makeup of certain individuals. One woman had her glaucoma (or similar genetic disease) fixed this way. I haven't followed it enough to see if there are any side effects or not. But it seems to be that we might be able to correct original sin sometime.
I'm an atheist, but whatever. Even were I not, I would severely disagree with this. The whole "original sin" argument has never made any sort of rational sense. We are what we are, and only by deeds can we devolve or evolve into something lesser or greater. What you think has no morality, it's what you DO.
We're on the subject of hate.
You need a really good teacher, because the Koran suggests the use of all kinds of underhanded and direct violence against those who are not Muslim. And this isn't something that was done in the past, only. It is orders and directions for live Muslims everywhere. It's just that most Muslims have natural love in their hearts for all people, and that's why they don't follow the directives, literally, like they are ordered to.
Sure, Islam is good. It is good for this life and for Muslims, but not for anybody else.
It doesn't get EVEN ONE OF ITS BELIEVERS into Heaven. It is a lie in that regard.
This does not address the issue of bad teachers and bad people, of course.
(Part I have crossed out is part I personally cannot agree with. Although I am an athiest, if this belief is wrong I would hope to be judged by my deeds, not by adherence to one or another old book. I would hope the same for those who for cultural, family or any other reason follow one of the many religions.)
Judgment by deeds is the reason why people are lost. NOBODY can be good enough to be saved. Judgment by deeds is only there to determine the quantity and quality of destruction in the afterlife. We all need to find a reason or way to get God to GIVE us salvation, other than because we deserve it. Why? We aren't good enough to deserve it at all.
I'm an atheist, but whatever. Even were I not, I would severely disagree with this. The whole "original sin" argument has never made any sort of rational sense. We are what we are, and only by deeds can we devolve or evolve into something lesser or greater. What you think has no morality, it's what you DO.
You need a really good teacher, because the Koran suggests the use of all kinds of underhanded and direct violence against those who are not Muslim. And this isn't something that was done in the past, only. It is orders and directions for live Muslims everywhere. It's just that most Muslims have natural love in their hearts for all people, and that's why they don't follow the directives, literally, like they are ordered to.
Sure, Islam is good. It is good for this life and for Muslims, but not for anybody else.
It doesn't get EVEN ONE OF ITS BELIEVERS into Heaven. It is a lie in that regard.
This does not address the issue of bad teachers and bad people, of course.
(Part I have crossed out is part I personally cannot agree with. Although I am an athiest, if this belief is wrong I would hope to be judged by my deeds, not by adherence to one or another old book. I would hope the same for those who for cultural, family or any other reason follow one of the many religions.)
Judgment by deeds is the reason why people are lost. NOBODY can be good enough to be saved. Judgment by deeds is only there to determine the quantity and quality of destruction in the afterlife. We all need to find a reason or way to get God to GIVE us salvation, other than because we deserve it. Why? We aren't good enough to deserve it at all.
You need a really good teacher, because the Koran suggests the use of all kinds of underhanded and direct violence against those who are not Muslim. And this isn't something that was done in the past, only. It is orders and directions for live Muslims everywhere. It's just that most Muslims have natural love in their hearts for all people, and that's why they don't follow the directives, literally, like they are ordered to.
Sure, Islam is good. It is good for this life and for Muslims, but not for anybody else.
It doesn't get EVEN ONE OF ITS BELIEVERS into Heaven. It is a lie in that regard.
This does not address the issue of bad teachers and bad people, of course.
(Part I have crossed out is part I personally cannot agree with. Although I am an athiest, if this belief is wrong I would hope to be judged by my deeds, not by adherence to one or another old book. I would hope the same for those who for cultural, family or any other reason follow one of the many religions.)
You need a really good teacher, because the Koran suggests the use of all kinds of underhanded and direct violence against those who are not Muslim. And this isn't something that was done in the past, only. It is orders and directions for live Muslims everywhere. It's just that most Muslims have natural love in their hearts for all people, and that's why they don't follow the directives, literally, like they are ordered to.
Sure, Islam is good. It is good for this life and for Muslims, but not for anybody else.
It doesn't get EVEN ONE OF ITS BELIEVERS into Heaven. It is a lie in that regard.
It just occurred to me what the answer is. People hate Islam because animals don't know how to hate. Sure, animals may imitate, and sometimes even emulate, people. But they don't really know how to hate.
I'd agree if we weren't animals. Perhaps that's something that sets us apart from other animals, though I've seen behaviour in dogs and cats that would suggest otherwise.
For the OP, I would say that people tend to hate Islam because Islam tends to hate other religions to the extent that they try to kill them off
Countless airline hijackings by Muslims have changed the very nature of air travel - from something that used to be fun, to something that's really no fun anymore. Then you've got countless bombings. Guys going on a rampage shooting people shouting "Alla Akbar." The odd sport of removing heads from people.
I could go on, but it's almost "Stupid" to ask the question "Why do people hate Islam."
If Islam is a religion of peace, the mullahs sure don't do a very good job of teaching peaceful behavior. I conclude, then, that a fraction of them are doing something quite different. In such a case, it really doesn't matter if most of the people are peaceful.
In a war, only 10% of the soldiers are on the front lines, and if 10% of a country's population is soldiers then only 1% of their population is actually fighting. The rest can babble all they want about how peaceful they are, I am not going to fall for it.
Would such logic apply to a religion as well as a nation?
It just occurred to me what the answer is. People hate Islam because animals don't know how to hate. Sure, animals may imitate, and sometimes even emulate, people. But they don't really know how to hate.
I'd agree if we weren't animals. Perhaps that's something that sets us apart from other animals, though I've seen behaviour in dogs and cats that would suggest otherwise.
For the OP, I would say that people tend to hate Islam because Islam tends to hate other religions to the extent that they try to kill them off
I don't say tribes can't defend themselves. But this one isn't defending their tribe, but trying to takeover the World and make it fall to a dark age.
I'm more an adept of Rationalism. I don't cherry pick ideas because there are no bad or good ideas, it depends on the situation and goal to be achieved. Ideas also have their time and place, and Islam sets two good examples of it:
Place:
- No pork. Pigs require too much water, so it's unwise to grow pigs in a desert. The same rule makes no sense at all anywhere else in the planet.
Time:
- Muhammad lived during the Justinian plague - a black death plague - so polygamy was a good idea to face the shortage of people. A man can get many women pregnant but a woman can only breed once per year.
Because religions are irrational, they simply start to apply the whole lot when the required condition that gave some sense to the rule is no longer in place.
Now, the irony:
- A psychopath back in the VII Century kills a lot of people, dictates a book exhorting their followers to hate Christians, Jews, non-believers and pretty much everybody, and people gets killed after such ideology.
- You say in the XXI Century you hate this pathetic ideology, and exhort people to stop killing themselves over such Dark Age ignorance... and you are "the hater"...
How cool is that? Makes you feel like humanity a whole is nothing but a bunch of retards.
And again, hate Islam is not the same as hate Muslims. For Muslims I just feel sorry for them. They born in a religion that preaches violence and they are up to a short and violent life.
Place:
- No pork. Pigs require too much water, so it's unwise to grow pigs in a desert. The same rule makes no sense at all anywhere else in the planet.
Time:
- Muhammad lived during the Justinian plague - a black death plague - so polygamy was a good idea to face the shortage of people. A man can get many women pregnant but a woman can only breed once per year.
Because religions are irrational, they simply start to apply the whole lot when the required condition that gave some sense to the rule is no longer in place.
Now, the irony:
- A psychopath back in the VII Century kills a lot of people, dictates a book exhorting their followers to hate Christians, Jews, non-believers and pretty much everybody, and people gets killed after such ideology.
- You say in the XXI Century you hate this pathetic ideology, and exhort people to stop killing themselves over such Dark Age ignorance... and you are "the hater"...
How cool is that? Makes you feel like humanity a whole is nothing but a bunch of retards.
And again, hate Islam is not the same as hate Muslims. For Muslims I just feel sorry for them. They born in a religion that preaches violence and they are up to a short and violent life.
However, I assume you agree that if any of us were to write up a list of rules for the survival of our tribe, we would include rules for both times which were peaceful (hopefully most years) and times which were warlike. We would do so in fashions which best enabled the survival of our tribe. Some parts of that might not be so terribly nice.
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