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legendary
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September 24, 2014, 07:00:07 PM
Nope Im saying if Muslims are Terroists so this worl must full of fights, wars, etc.

And isn't it?!  Huh

@beetcoin,

Yes, I understood you. But put to the same realm those who want to impose a law that will turn you into a dhimmi paying jizyia or behead you for not believing in their delusion and some crackpots who want schools to teach Creationism, is way of. It would be only the same if those Creationists were trying to behead teachers who talk about Darwin.
Extremists are extremists, but nobody would bother with an extremist Buddhist for an instance. Such guy would be an extreme pacifist. The issue isn't in the extremists, the issue is in the ideology itself.
sr. member
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September 24, 2014, 06:45:39 PM
Im not saying i will kill him, Im just saying if Muslims are a real terrorists then he will get killed. because muslims almot 20% of this world huge number for sure.

So what's your point? They are many so they are above criticism?
Nope Im saying if Muslims are Terroists so this worl must full of fights, wars, etc.
The reason is as other member corrected me that Muslim have 23.5% of the earth
that's mean between every 4 persons there is  one person terrorist.

you got my point ?
Nothing above criticism, if you want just do it and wait an answer from a muslim guy, so start with yourself you have criticism ? I will try to answer you if i can because im not an expert.
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September 24, 2014, 06:43:26 PM
what are you talking about? how did i try to justify anything? maybe you should stop putting words in my mouth.

You seam to believe we shouldn't see Islam as a threat because there are others who are also making insane requests. That just justifies that we should take both threats seriously, doesn't justify or make anything on behalf of any.

the fuck? i even said "muslims have more kooks than any other religion" basically.. re-read what i wrote. the point i was making was that extremism is not just a muslim thing, it's something we see in most religions period. if you want to jump to conclusions and accuse me of tolerating muslim extremism, well then, i guess you are entitled to your wrong opinion.
legendary
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September 24, 2014, 06:42:22 PM
what are you talking about? how did i try to justify anything? maybe you should stop putting words in my mouth.

You seam to believe we shouldn't see Islam as a threat because there are others who are also making insane requests. That just justifies that we should take both threats seriously, doesn't justify or make anything on behalf of any.
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September 24, 2014, 06:38:57 PM
yes a lot of islamic countries want to live under theocratic governments, but then again there are people who want to enforce teaching creationism in america, among teaching other christian values. they basically want reintegration of the church and state. oh and there are also christian kooks who try to push government-funded "fake" abortion clinics, and it's becoming more pervasive in the U.S.

http://www.vice.com/vice-news/the-fake-abortion-clinics-of-america-875

in the end, extremists are extremists. muslims have more of them, but it's not like they own the patent to fundamentalism.. tons of christians are hte same.

Two wrongs does NOT make a right... #3

STOP trying to justify one's insanity with another's insanity. That's just ridiculous! It just makes them 2 insane, doesn't make any of them sane.

what are you talking about? how did i try to justify anything? maybe you should stop putting words in my mouth.
legendary
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September 24, 2014, 06:36:38 PM
yes a lot of islamic countries want to live under theocratic governments, but then again there are people who want to enforce teaching creationism in america, among teaching other christian values. they basically want reintegration of the church and state. oh and there are also christian kooks who try to push government-funded "fake" abortion clinics, and it's becoming more pervasive in the U.S.

http://www.vice.com/vice-news/the-fake-abortion-clinics-of-america-875

in the end, extremists are extremists. muslims have more of them, but it's not like they own the patent to fundamentalism.. tons of christians are hte same.

Two wrongs does NOT make a right... #3

STOP trying to justify one's insanity with another's insanity. That's just ridiculous! It just makes them 2 insane, doesn't make any of them sane.
sr. member
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September 24, 2014, 06:33:42 PM
i am not an islamaphobe - it's more like i dislike the institution of religion altogether. also, there are many more islamic kooks out there than christian (though there are plenty of those), jewish, buddhist or whatever kooks. i don't know if it has to do with the religion or culture, but it's just true.
I've wondered the same issue.  For one example I see the Catholic "culture" in Italy or Mexico as radically different than in the US.  I can't attribute many of the features of the culture of these two cultures to the religion.

But then Islam has this thing about wanting to be a government and religion.

yes a lot of islamic countries want to live under theocratic governments, but then again there are people who want to enforce teaching creationism in america, among teaching other christian values. they basically want reintegration of the church and state. oh and there are also christian kooks who try to push government-funded "fake" abortion clinics, and it's becoming more pervasive in the U.S.

http://www.vice.com/vice-news/the-fake-abortion-clinics-of-america-875

in the end, extremists are extremists. muslims have more of them, but it's not like they own the patent to fundamentalism.. tons of christians are hte same.
legendary
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September 24, 2014, 06:31:05 PM
Im not saying i will kill him, Im just saying if Muslims are a real terrorists then he will get killed. because muslims almot 20% of this world huge number for sure.

So what's your point? They are many so they are above criticism?
legendary
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September 24, 2014, 06:27:31 PM
i am not an islamaphobe - it's more like i dislike the institution of religion altogether. also, there are many more islamic kooks out there than christian (though there are plenty of those), jewish, buddhist or whatever kooks. i don't know if it has to do with the religion or culture, but it's just true.
I've wondered the same issue.  For one example I see the Catholic "culture" in Italy or Mexico as radically different than in the US.  I can't attribute many of the features of the culture of these two cultures to the religion.

But then Islam has this thing about wanting to be a government and religion.
legendary
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September 24, 2014, 06:24:43 PM
Im not saying i will kill him, Im just saying if Muslims are a real terrorists then he will get killed. because muslims almot 20% of this world huge number for sure.
You certainly have a point there.
sr. member
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September 24, 2014, 06:23:15 PM
i am not an islamaphobe - it's more like i dislike the institution of religion altogether. also, there are many more islamic kooks out there than christian (though there are plenty of those), jewish, buddhist or whatever kooks. i don't know if it has to do with the religion or culture, but it's just true.
sr. member
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September 24, 2014, 06:20:31 PM
Im not saying i will kill him, Im just saying if Muslims are a real terrorists then he will get killed. because muslims almot 20% of this world huge number for sure.
hero member
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September 24, 2014, 05:04:54 PM
this world has 6 billion people, guess how much muslims ? 1 billion.

Incorrect.

In the year 2013, the population of the world was 7.125 billion (Source: World Bank)

Muslims account for roughly 23% of the world's population
(Sources: The CIA's World Factbook, Pew Research, Catholic Culture)

But what does that count for?!
"I'm idiot and believe in some huge load of bull, but at least I'm not alone"? Is it the logic?

Argumentum Ad Populum
legendary
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September 24, 2014, 05:03:44 PM
this world has 6 billion people, guess how much muslims ? 1 billion.

Incorrect.

In the year 2013, the population of the world was 7.125 billion (Source: World Bank)

Muslims account for roughly 23% of the world's population
(Sources: The CIA's World Factbook, Pew Research, Catholic Culture)

But what does that count for?!
"I'm idiot and believe in some huge load of bull, but at least I'm not alone"? Is it the logic?
hero member
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September 24, 2014, 04:35:50 PM
this world has 6 billion people, guess how much muslims ? 1 billion.

Incorrect.

In the year 2013, the population of the world was 7.125 billion (Source: World Bank)

Muslims account for roughly 23% of the world's population
(Sources: The CIA's World Factbook, Pew Research, Catholic Culture)
legendary
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September 24, 2014, 04:29:16 PM
Simply because Islam is the best and prevent some actions like Alcohol, fuck in street, Gamble etc.. which europe and American people like. so Its a terrorist for them, etc..

They forget that hitler was chrisitian xD

Anyway proud to be muslim.
Good for you.  Me, I am very much against Gambling, but do like Alcohol a bit.  So Islam prevents it? 

Well, we have this thing called Freedom of Choice.  I'd rather nobody take on the mission in life of "preventing my actions".

People that think that way often are really screwed up.  They want to control other people, ignore their own faults.    And I've seen lots of alcohol, sex, gambling activity from Muslim people in Las Vegas.  Maybe they go back home, then become good Muslims again?

What do you think?
legendary
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September 24, 2014, 03:51:58 PM
@ BCEmporium (...) If you say Mulsims are a terrorists, i guarantee that you will die in the nest 10 seconds. for your info this world has 6 billion people, guess how much muslims ? 1 billion. so shut the fuck up man and do not talk about Islam

Love it! "we are not terrorists and will kill you if you say otherwise". Makes sense...  Roll Eyes
And what's that with the numbers? 1 billion? Does it matter for anything at all? Arguments ad populum are logical fallacies; it's NOT because 1 or 1.000.000 believes on something that that something is more or less true or false.
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September 24, 2014, 03:31:07 PM
CoinCollect, you demonize sex as if it were something to be ashamed about. Your mom had sex, so did your dad, so did my mom, and so did my dad, and so did their parents too. It's natural, it's one of the seven biological characteristics of life, commonly referred to as mating, reproduction, but familiar to us as love.

What is your problem with citizens having sexual intercourse for money? They are only using their bodies for their personal gain, you are unaffected. If you do not like prostitution, do not buy a prostitute. As for your other vulgar remarks about having sex on trains or public areas, you need to understand that the human body is nothing to be ashamed of. We are born without clothing, and in most regions, in an era where religion didn't govern through the state, humans wore just enough to keep them warm. Don't let the state tell you what to wear or where to reproduce.

You claim that Islam would prevent incestuous sex, alcoholism, and gambling. Yet, famous leaders and citizens of predominantly Islamic states of the world all consume alcohol and gamble.

It is disturbing that you claim that an adult industry entertainer such Lisa Ann should be killed for simply doing what she wishes with her body. What about all the men that watch her works on television? I'm going to be honest with you buddy, I didn't even know who Lisa Ann was before I googled her name, if you think porn is so detrimental, why do you know the names of porn artists, such as Lisa Ann?

This neat little, I like to call it a diagram, will help you out on Libertarianism.





It is a well known fact that muslim bitches are eager to spread their legs when proper buttoms are pushed Cheesy

All that cover to dress them up in but they can't ignore their basic nature and get fucked like small animals haha biggest stuck up whores on the face of the planet.
hero member
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September 24, 2014, 03:18:44 PM
CoinCollect, you demonize sex as if it were something to be ashamed about. Your mom had sex, so did your dad, so did my mom, and so did my dad, and so did their parents too. It's natural, it's one of the seven biological characteristics of life, commonly referred to as mating, reproduction, but familiar to us as love.

What is your problem with citizens having sexual intercourse for money? They are only using their bodies for their personal gain, you are unaffected. If you do not like prostitution, do not buy a prostitute. As for your other vulgar remarks about having sex on trains or public areas, you need to understand that the human body is nothing to be ashamed of. We are born without clothing, and in most regions, in an era where religion didn't govern through the state, humans wore just enough to keep them warm. Don't let the state tell you what to wear or where to reproduce.

You claim that Islam would prevent incestuous sex, alcoholism, and gambling. Yet, famous leaders and citizens of predominantly Islamic states of the world all consume alcohol and gamble.

It is disturbing that you claim that an adult industry entertainer such Lisa Ann should be killed for simply doing what she wishes with her body. What about all the men that watch her works on television? I'm going to be honest with you buddy, I didn't even know who Lisa Ann was before I googled her name, if you think porn is so detrimental, why do you know the names of porn artists, such as Lisa Ann?

This neat little, I like to call it a diagram, will help you out on Libertarianism.



legendary
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The revolution will be monetized!
September 24, 2014, 10:27:38 AM
I have no problem with Islam. I am not a believer, but Vishnu, Allah, Jesus; they are all the same to me. It's just people and their ideas.
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