Topic: Why do people hate islam? - page 60. (Read 221077 times)

well not before your family Murdered aborigines and took there land 
they already are doing this  this is the problem..plus us poms are not poms we will soon be Pakistani muslims 
PLUS ITS YOU THAT IS THE POM YOU DUMB SHIT

PRISONER OF MOTHER ENGLAND that is what a POM is DUMB ASS  so it your family who are the poms you stole a loaf of bread thick shit could of stole something better

Gladly, my family won a ticket out of England about 200 years ago for stealing a loaf of bread.  I hope millions of former colonials from India, Pakistan and wherever else come and take your jobs, take your money then fuck off back to somewhere nicer than England... I doubt it though, because they can make the best curry, and its all you bloody poms eat these days anyway.

  

Your average housewife calls her range, refrigerator, and washer and dryer, science.

NOPE ITS NOT A RELIGION ITS PROOF AND FACT RELIGION IS MAKE BELIEVE 

Science is a religion, not the key.   

See in the uk we Brits who have been here for hundreds of years have had problems with kings and queens protestant and catholic.. and we true BRITS I.E your average family man not some rich guy
because even rich people think oh i am so rich there must be a god.
just your average family man
who sons end up on the front line in war and the rich point the finger to go over the hill while they watch..We have had enough of it all religion war we have been doing the same shit for thousands of years
And one thing your average family British man who as lived here for many hundreds of years is there is no god and war is to line some ones pockets and we are sick of it all..now all of a sudden the muslim problem is starting to get going ..
you seem to think hate muslims its the fact we know what we have been threw with Christianity and its not the rich that suffer its the poor the rich get on a boat or a plane and leave the poor to take the shit
I could just jump on a boat or a plane i would stand and fight if some country invaded the uk i would never run ..
so i hate religion but muslims are the ones kicking up the fuss saying they will fly the black flag over Buckingham palace
We will see
the whole world will be gone as soon as you get to the front door of the palace with a black flag
no muslims will ever rule BRITAIN
We Brits have moved on from religion we know what it brings we know exactly what it brings
But if anything British people are atheist or Christian
see when we say CHRISTIANS IN THE UK WE MEAN A person who wont swear no violence what so ever you could slap a Christian and he would say thank you may jesus be with you
but you muslims are fuckin nuts just like the CHRISTIANS 200 YEARS AGO do you get my point we are sick to the back teeth of it all ..RELIGION IS SO DEAD
Science is the key not religion
Oh no such thing as a good muslim or a good Christian Your only trying to be good to go to heaven
to get what you want TRY DOING IT BECAUSE YOU IN YOUR OWN MIND FEEL THE NEED TO DO THIS.
NOT BECAUSE GOD SAID NUTTERS
 

Okay, thanks. (LOL)   

OH your so wrong i shall tell you a story
i from the UK i went to the lake district for a day out with my daughter and there was loads of muslims and i mean hundreds it felt like Pakistan and because my daughter had a football kit on they where pointing my daughter out i was FUCKIN LIVID I SAID TO THE UGLY TWAT WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU LOOKING AT YOU MUSLIM TWAT. i swear i was fuming  i was thinking in my own country your pointing my daughter out for not covering up fuck off back to sandland twat
now in the uk its like fuckin pakistan..

So when donald trump says ban muslims i would 2

i would ban all religious places of worship you can only worship in your own home so the muslims wont say its only them who its happening to it solves it all no one left out so no booohooo its me getting picked on
this is the problem

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J80AGEvRQOg
listen most western muslims are full of shit you are all cancer all religion is
plus my grandad lost his leg during the war why don.t all the young fit men from syria fight you gang of shit houses WE BRITISH DON.T RUN WE STAND AND FIGHT SO GET BACK TO YOUR OWN COUNTRY AND FIGHT INSTEAD OF RUNNING
OH plus this is to trump most people from Britain who signed the petition to ban you WERE MOSLTY MUSLIM OR POLITICIANS WANTING THE MUSLIM VOTE BECAUSE THEY LET THAT MANY COME OVER DUMB FUCKS
We true Brits I.E who have been here for 100 years or more don.t want to ban you ITS THE MUSLIMS REMEMBER 60 MILLION BRITISH I SAY 5 MILLION MUSLIMS THE REST ARE NOT SO 500k signed petition hmmm mostly muslims i reckon
when you come to the uk YOU WEAR A BOWLER HAT OK
PLUS YOU THINK US BRITISH DON.T KNOW ABOUT WAR WE FOUGHT FRANCE FOR HUNDREDS OF YEARS WE HAD THE IRA DID WE RUN DID WE FUCK

My point is that a literal reading of any ancient text, as a command from da 'almighty, is dangerous for everyone.  For instance, in Israel fundamentalists believe that they have a right to occupy certain places, due to a literal reading of an ancient text. 
This in itself may not be considered violent, but one does not meerly park the RV in such an area and raise their fundamentalist kids there, they defend that land with violence if necessary and displace other residents of the land.  What do you think the original residents of the area are going to do?

Yeah I guess I made a bit of broad, sweeping statement there.
But here's a fun game, name one fundamentalist group that doesn't advocate violence of some sort!

I think you have a point but it's not expressed well.

"Nothing to fear from muslims"

"fundamentalists of any religion"

First, fundamentalists do not commonly advocate violence.

Period.

You're wrong, we (the west) have nothing to fear from muslims.  It's fundamentalists of any religion that you have a right to be concerned about.  Whether it be ISIS in the Middle East and North Africa, Christians in Uganda, Buddhists in Thailand and Burma, Sikhs in the Punjab.  The two things that these groups all have in common:
1.They advocate literal interpretations of religious writings (fundamentalism).
2.They use violence (murder, rape, etc).

Lets not do ISIS Daesh's work for them, they want to drive a wedge between Western muslims and everyone else living in the West.  This sort of foolish discussion brings out the worst racists and the biggest idiots, stay united people.

SO ALMOST 100% CAN TURN MUSLIM THEN IF THEY KEEP SPREADING LOOK AT 20 YEARS AGO HOW MANY MUSLIMS THEN THEY ARE GROWING LIKE A CANCER
So BADECKER you better start preaching to some muslims and have a preaching fight you might convert some into MUPPETS 

Close to 100% of the first Christians were Jews. And many Jews today are Christians. Usually when modern Jews are Christians, they are better Christians than any of the other Christians.

Often I don't offer my opinion. Often I say what is someon els's opinion, or maybe simple fact.

This means that people don't like hearing the truth.

Islam wants to take over the world FACT and i don.t want my daughter brought up in Islamic law

So what happened to the Jews when Christians come along for the first time i bet they thought no way there will be more Christians than the JEWS

same going on here i hate ISLAM AND ALL RELIGIONS ITS A JOKE
plus when people  say i hate muslims you seem to think they are racist but its a religion that many people want to be law all over the world
I would rather be dead than live like a muslim
NOW FOR SOMEONE WITH THE SAME THOUGHTS AS ME

LISTEN TO THIS WOMEN THIS IS WHY I HATE ISLAM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXGE2eBUdlQ

Thanks dude!

I am sure that even I learn something from this discussion. I see that many people here are against your opinion, so if you don't mind you I would like to join in your war-debate...

yeah. Two different creation accounts, one chapter apart. That's in the first three pages.

Thanks for chiming in. I'm done with this joker. As I'm sure you know, and he ought to, theory in science doesn't mean a guess. BADecker, this is for you.

In scientific methodology a theory is the description of known facts that best describes them, and makes predictions based on those facts. Unlike "holy writ", theory is subject to constant criticism, and constant revision. As to the age of the earth being no more than 25,000 years, that is ludicrous. You may very well want to examine your sources. Modern humanity might be older than that.

The theory of evolution, thanks to people like you, is the single most tested theory in the history of science. Yes, I am fully aware of how it's caricatured  by religious leaders, but that doesn't change the facts or the research one iota. By comparison, the "law" that you pretend to know something about, Newton's third, is pure speculation. (It's not, I'm just pointing out the amount of testing vs. evolutionary theory.)

FYI, evolution does not deal with the origin of life, which while it outs your religion as false, does not in any way prove or disprove the existence of a grand deity. Such a being could have set evolution in motion. Or it could have happened by natural processes. In 2009, a study showed the beginnings of pre-animate matter in an environment similar to that of early earth. Not life as we know it, not even truly living, just a precursor. Proteins were formed in an organic process in simulated conditions similar to the beginnings of life on earth. If it can be done in a lab simply by recreating known conditions, this implies that life, via abiogenesis, is not just possible, but likely and common throughout the universe. Again, this neither proves nor disproves any god, it simply shows what's possible.

Religion offers dead certainty on all things without examination. Only fools are certain. Me, I'm not certain of much of anything. I am certain that my mind can be changed by HARD FACTS, even when those facts point in a direction I don't like. When I was young, and certain, religion was a bit of a comfort to me, but also a burden, since according to your beloved scripture, I was not to EVER question ANYTHING biblical, regardless of whether it made sense. As I grew older, I found that more burdensome. I have since come to the conclusion that a thing that cannot withstand scrutiny is false. Period. Religious leaders of every stripe have known since they started the cults that they could not withstand scrutiny. So they put things into their holy works like "you're going to hell if you question this dogma". And it fucking WORKS. On the weak minded. If you think the vast majority of the clergy believe the shit they teach, you're quite deluded. Jimmy Swaggart was not an anomaly, he just got caught.

that's only true if your god exists in the first place. what youre doing is youre taking your beliefs, which are based off nothing more than faith, taking a phenomena, and filling in the gaps with an explanation that is in tune with what you believe or what you want to believe.

these 'so accurate eyewitness reports' also have numerous inconsistencies.

If you mean the part about God creating mankind, it is self evident. How? In the science that shows that God is behind everything. Which science is this? Newton's 3rd law - action reaction/cause and effect. Everything in the universe is caused by something. God is the Great First Cause. This has been known in science for at least a hundred years, now.


There is no fact of mankind coming about through evolution. There may be some bits and pieces that suggest that parts of it could have happened, but there isn't even a plausible theory for the whole thing available that doesn't have big enough holes in it to drive a cement truck through.

In addition, if someone develops a true and complete, working theory, about the way mankind might have come about by evolution, this doesn't mean that some other theory cannot be developed that shows that mankind came about by evolution in a different way, a different form of evolution.

On top of that, even if working theories came about, there is no way to go back and see what really happened.

So far, the best we have is the eye witness record of the Bible. There is nothing else other than speculation.


The Bible is not meant to be an actual history of the age of the earth. But... Real, factual, science that is not theory fiction places the earth in the range of 10,000 years old, and not more than 25,000 years old.


The eye witness reports of the Bible are way more accurate than any guestimations by a bunch of self-styled scientists.


The Bible is often a record of people speaking, or of something that someone said or thought. Just because someone is recorded in the Bible to have said something, doesn't make it necessarily part of what God commands.

Elisha doesn't consult Elijah's spirit.

The afterlife is a theme throughout the entire Bible.


God commanded it at times. God owns everything, including you and me. He is the boss.

Consider this. Let's imagine that you have a daughter that you love dearly. And let's say that some joker rapes and murders her. Which would you rather have? The guy go free? Or the guy be removed from the earth through execution.

In the case of Israel at the time of the Exodus, the execution of bad nations was judged by God, commanded by Him, and some of the time carried out by Israel. Other times God did it Himself.

He owns it all. He is the boss. What He says goes. Be glad that He has given you a time of grace to repent of your obstinacy against Him.



Well, I don't know what you mean.

In science, there are a handful of facts. Most of science is theory = fiction... until it is proven otherwise. Expressing this truth is something that I know full well that I am doing.

You keep saying this as if it is somehow self evident and writ in stone.

It's not.

Your religion cannot be reconciled with evolution. Not the theory, the fact. It cannot be reconciled with the actual age of the earth. it's predictions would show that all animals are distinct, with no overlap, yet we share 99 percent of our DNA with Chimpanzees, and even more with Bonobos. It makes claims as to how AND WHERE man originated, that are false. Civilization indeed seems to have started in the Euphrates valley, but the origins of humanity are much older, and in Africa.

Also, earlier, you made a statement that the bible holds no contradictions, and does not command murders. Yet, according to the "new testament", the old law is never to pass away and ALL commandments of god are "right". This in itself is contradictory, but how about this? According to the old testament, there both is and is not an afterlife (Elisha consults Elijah's spirit, yet psalms states that the dead are dust and conscious of nothing). The new Testament pretty much is in favor of an afterlife, but not totally.

Further, throughout Exodus, the Israelites are commanded to put entire populations to the sword, leaving not a man, woman, or suckling infant alive. Demonstrate to me how the FUCK that does not command murder. Oh, and what evil did those infants commit?

I mainly respond to you because there is an audience. You mischaracterize things in scientific theory, KNOWING FULL WELL THAT YOU ARE DOING SO. If you cannot offer the extraordinary proofs that you're extraordinary claims require, that's ok. But to lie about it, that is not ok.