Topic: Why do people hate islam? - page 61. (Read 221004 times)

SO ALMOST 100% CAN TURN MUSLIM THEN IF THEY KEEP SPREADING LOOK AT 20 YEARS AGO HOW MANY MUSLIMS THEN THEY ARE GROWING LIKE A CANCER
So BADECKER you better start preaching to some muslims and have a preaching fight you might convert some into MUPPETS 

Close to 100% of the first Christians were Jews. And many Jews today are Christians. Usually when modern Jews are Christians, they are better Christians than any of the other Christians.

Often I don't offer my opinion. Often I say what is someon els's opinion, or maybe simple fact.

This means that people don't like hearing the truth.

Islam wants to take over the world FACT and i don.t want my daughter brought up in Islamic law

So what happened to the Jews when Christians come along for the first time i bet they thought no way there will be more Christians than the JEWS

same going on here i hate ISLAM AND ALL RELIGIONS ITS A JOKE
plus when people  say i hate muslims you seem to think they are racist but its a religion that many people want to be law all over the world
I would rather be dead than live like a muslim
NOW FOR SOMEONE WITH THE SAME THOUGHTS AS ME

LISTEN TO THIS WOMEN THIS IS WHY I HATE ISLAM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXGE2eBUdlQ

Thanks dude!

I am sure that even I learn something from this discussion. I see that many people here are against your opinion, so if you don't mind you I would like to join in your war-debate...

yeah. Two different creation accounts, one chapter apart. That's in the first three pages.

Thanks for chiming in. I'm done with this joker. As I'm sure you know, and he ought to, theory in science doesn't mean a guess. BADecker, this is for you.

In scientific methodology a theory is the description of known facts that best describes them, and makes predictions based on those facts. Unlike "holy writ", theory is subject to constant criticism, and constant revision. As to the age of the earth being no more than 25,000 years, that is ludicrous. You may very well want to examine your sources. Modern humanity might be older than that.

The theory of evolution, thanks to people like you, is the single most tested theory in the history of science. Yes, I am fully aware of how it's caricatured  by religious leaders, but that doesn't change the facts or the research one iota. By comparison, the "law" that you pretend to know something about, Newton's third, is pure speculation. (It's not, I'm just pointing out the amount of testing vs. evolutionary theory.)

FYI, evolution does not deal with the origin of life, which while it outs your religion as false, does not in any way prove or disprove the existence of a grand deity. Such a being could have set evolution in motion. Or it could have happened by natural processes. In 2009, a study showed the beginnings of pre-animate matter in an environment similar to that of early earth. Not life as we know it, not even truly living, just a precursor. Proteins were formed in an organic process in simulated conditions similar to the beginnings of life on earth. If it can be done in a lab simply by recreating known conditions, this implies that life, via abiogenesis, is not just possible, but likely and common throughout the universe. Again, this neither proves nor disproves any god, it simply shows what's possible.

Religion offers dead certainty on all things without examination. Only fools are certain. Me, I'm not certain of much of anything. I am certain that my mind can be changed by HARD FACTS, even when those facts point in a direction I don't like. When I was young, and certain, religion was a bit of a comfort to me, but also a burden, since according to your beloved scripture, I was not to EVER question ANYTHING biblical, regardless of whether it made sense. As I grew older, I found that more burdensome. I have since come to the conclusion that a thing that cannot withstand scrutiny is false. Period. Religious leaders of every stripe have known since they started the cults that they could not withstand scrutiny. So they put things into their holy works like "you're going to hell if you question this dogma". And it fucking WORKS. On the weak minded. If you think the vast majority of the clergy believe the shit they teach, you're quite deluded. Jimmy Swaggart was not an anomaly, he just got caught.

that's only true if your god exists in the first place. what youre doing is youre taking your beliefs, which are based off nothing more than faith, taking a phenomena, and filling in the gaps with an explanation that is in tune with what you believe or what you want to believe.

these 'so accurate eyewitness reports' also have numerous inconsistencies.

If you mean the part about God creating mankind, it is self evident. How? In the science that shows that God is behind everything. Which science is this? Newton's 3rd law - action reaction/cause and effect. Everything in the universe is caused by something. God is the Great First Cause. This has been known in science for at least a hundred years, now.


There is no fact of mankind coming about through evolution. There may be some bits and pieces that suggest that parts of it could have happened, but there isn't even a plausible theory for the whole thing available that doesn't have big enough holes in it to drive a cement truck through.

In addition, if someone develops a true and complete, working theory, about the way mankind might have come about by evolution, this doesn't mean that some other theory cannot be developed that shows that mankind came about by evolution in a different way, a different form of evolution.

On top of that, even if working theories came about, there is no way to go back and see what really happened.

So far, the best we have is the eye witness record of the Bible. There is nothing else other than speculation.


The Bible is not meant to be an actual history of the age of the earth. But... Real, factual, science that is not theory fiction places the earth in the range of 10,000 years old, and not more than 25,000 years old.


The eye witness reports of the Bible are way more accurate than any guestimations by a bunch of self-styled scientists.


The Bible is often a record of people speaking, or of something that someone said or thought. Just because someone is recorded in the Bible to have said something, doesn't make it necessarily part of what God commands.

Elisha doesn't consult Elijah's spirit.

The afterlife is a theme throughout the entire Bible.


God commanded it at times. God owns everything, including you and me. He is the boss.

Consider this. Let's imagine that you have a daughter that you love dearly. And let's say that some joker rapes and murders her. Which would you rather have? The guy go free? Or the guy be removed from the earth through execution.

In the case of Israel at the time of the Exodus, the execution of bad nations was judged by God, commanded by Him, and some of the time carried out by Israel. Other times God did it Himself.

He owns it all. He is the boss. What He says goes. Be glad that He has given you a time of grace to repent of your obstinacy against Him.



Well, I don't know what you mean.

In science, there are a handful of facts. Most of science is theory = fiction... until it is proven otherwise. Expressing this truth is something that I know full well that I am doing.

You keep saying this as if it is somehow self evident and writ in stone.

It's not.

Your religion cannot be reconciled with evolution. Not the theory, the fact. It cannot be reconciled with the actual age of the earth. it's predictions would show that all animals are distinct, with no overlap, yet we share 99 percent of our DNA with Chimpanzees, and even more with Bonobos. It makes claims as to how AND WHERE man originated, that are false. Civilization indeed seems to have started in the Euphrates valley, but the origins of humanity are much older, and in Africa.

Also, earlier, you made a statement that the bible holds no contradictions, and does not command murders. Yet, according to the "new testament", the old law is never to pass away and ALL commandments of god are "right". This in itself is contradictory, but how about this? According to the old testament, there both is and is not an afterlife (Elisha consults Elijah's spirit, yet psalms states that the dead are dust and conscious of nothing). The new Testament pretty much is in favor of an afterlife, but not totally.

Further, throughout Exodus, the Israelites are commanded to put entire populations to the sword, leaving not a man, woman, or suckling infant alive. Demonstrate to me how the FUCK that does not command murder. Oh, and what evil did those infants commit?

I mainly respond to you because there is an audience. You mischaracterize things in scientific theory, KNOWING FULL WELL THAT YOU ARE DOING SO. If you cannot offer the extraordinary proofs that you're extraordinary claims require, that's ok. But to lie about it, that is not ok.

Not all people hate islam.

The nature of the Christian religion is to require a believer to obey the law of love perfectly. when the believer finds that he can't do this, he looks to God for forgiveness. God provides the forgiveness through the sacrifice His Son Jesus made on the cross.

the nature of religion is to require a believer to believe ten impossible things every day before breakfast.

That is the essence of "faith."

By the way, I'd just like to clarify, I don't HATE Islam

I'm 'phobic' of it and find it worrying, even threatening

But most of all, I just wish it would grow the fuck up

I mean, two billion people worshipping a guy that 'rode into space on a winged horse' and 'sliced the moon in half with his finger' not to mention speaking to 'angels' is quite frankly, pathetic.

Come on guys, fairy tales. Grow up.

That's exactly why the Bible is being discussed. It is the non-crap, pure sense, of the Bible that talks about some of the reasons that people hate Islam.

No, there is no benefit in your discussing crap other than "Why do people hate islam" on an Internet forum thread entitled "Why do people hate Islam."

If this is what you truly believe, you are expressing some of the things that I believe as well.

There might be some benefit in our discussing these things here, but we can read the Bible to get a much clearer picture than either of us will ever get by discussing things in this forum.

Until later.

You want to say that we can save ourselves. I say that Jesus saves us.

That's what we are basically talking about here.

Mate, in a moments I feel that I speak to my self, because I see that you don't follow me...

Christ was send it from Heaven to die on cross for our sins and after 3 days He resurrect so He can proves that He is the Light who lives in our body and the only path to the Light is if we continue to follow His words who are written in the acts of the Apostles.

So, if I am talking about what is mentioned in the Bible, then where you see that I am trying to convince you that we can save by ourselves?

My point is that... If we like to accept Christ, then we should follow the Law and His words who are written in the New Testament!

https://muslimstatistics.wordpress.com/

This is the naked truth. Islamic extremism has killed far more Muslims than any other cause. If the Muslims are living in a multi-religious country, then first they will start by killing the minorities (such as Hindus, Christians, Yazidis and the Jews). Once the minorities are exterminated, the Sunnis will try to exterminate the Shiites. Once the Shiites are also exterminated, the various Sunni clans will fight among each other.

But it may have brought positives to the world in the past.  For example, it may have helped to bring many to this point in time, this moment in history.

Which is a time and a moment where perhaps religions are not needed, or certainly where they are not needed for the same form and function as in the past.