Why do people hate islam? - page 71.

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Quote from: BCEmporium on December 03, 2015, 05:08:35 PM

The "media" can be your religious books...
Stop blaming others for your own shit or go around with conspiracy theories! Yes, the media is manipulated, but mostly on your favor, most westerns have no clue what's going on on Iran, Yemen, Saudi Arabia, Egypt and so on, they're just shown "the terrorist show" followed by "they are not real muslims" crap.

Okay, so where does one find the True Information?

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The "media" can be your religious books...
Stop blaming others for your own shit or go around with conspiracy theories! Yes, the media is manipulated, but mostly on your favor, most westerns have no clue what's going on on Iran, Yemen, Saudi Arabia, Egypt and so on, they're just shown "the terrorist show" followed by "they are not real muslims" crap.

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Quote from: alrachid on December 03, 2015, 03:02:32 PM

It's interesting, when you read the forums it almost seems as though the majority of people have their eyes open and realize there is nothing to hate Islam in it's entirety for and it's heavily manipulated by media. But when I go out in the real world no one has a clue what the hell is going on and they go right along with it where I am from.... it's saddening.

"they go right along with it"

What do they go right along with?

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Just another man trying to find his way.

It's interesting, when you read the forums it almost seems as though the majority of people have their eyes open and realize there is nothing to hate Islam in it's entirety for and it's heavily manipulated by media. But when I go out in the real world no one has a clue what the hell is going on and they go right along with it where I am from.... it's saddening.

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Quote from: anonymousx on December 03, 2015, 12:13:47 PM

Well, as a muslim I know that I mean no harm to anyone and I know that I wont hate who hates me and wish it wasn't that way, and love and help who see me as equal, I respect everything you said here and I am not saying it's wrong or right, allah knows and allah will do what is better for the world, and I mean by allah/god, it's united for all religions we all pray to the same god take it or leave it's your point of view, even if the name is different.

And I hope you all good health and wealth, I am out of this discussion it started to abuse me and hurt me to see people who hate islam so much and wish I could change it but that's all about it, I guess there is people who want this bad picture and support it, I have nothing more to say.

take care.

I wish you the best also. No, you can't change anything about it and we know that.

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Well, as a muslim I know that I mean no harm to anyone and I know that I wont hate who hates me and wish it wasn't that way, and love and help who see me as equal, I respect everything you said here and I am not saying it's wrong or right, allah knows and allah will do what is better for the world, and I mean by allah/god, it's united for all religions we all pray to the same god take it or leave it's your point of view, even if the name is different.

And I hope you all good health and wealth, I am out of this discussion it started to abuse me and hurt me to see people who hate islam so much and wish I could change it but that's all about it, I guess there is people who want this bad picture and support it, I have nothing more to say.

take care.

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Quote from: Spendulus on December 03, 2015, 10:12:38 AM

Quote from: BADecker on December 03, 2015, 09:58:24 AM

Quote from: anonymousx on December 03, 2015, 08:27:53 AM

This will help you understand better
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKfuS6gfxPY

The video started with Russian troops in Texas. Then it changed into Chinese troops in Texas. Not very consistent.

American troops on foreign soil actually protect these other nations from insurgency. Islam is conquering much of the world. American troops in Iraq and other places, even though they make mistakes at times, are protecting Iraq, and giving those people a chance to be free from Islamic slavery.

Look at Viet Nam. Even though America supposedly lost the Viet Nam war, the people of Viet Nam are freer today than they would ever have been had America not gone there.

Wake up and see that the best advantage for all people, both business and personal, is what America is trying to push around the world. People of foreign countries who fight America, are idiotically fighting their own freedom.

The stupid video is a head-hurting visual lecture of Ron Paul propaganda. Namely that "what do you expect after US invades their country?"

Problem is, this reverses cause and effect. Some terrorist group makes a nightmare of a small country, US goes in to help. Terrorist group then attacks US. It's not the US invading the country, but going their to help the legitimate government in place.

Oh, sure, the terrorist group claims "It's our land" blah blah blah along with ten other warring tribes.

I agree, basically. I doubt that Ron Paul would approve of the video. Someone else made the video, and didn't really think it through ahead of time.

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Quote from: BADecker on December 03, 2015, 09:58:24 AM

Quote from: anonymousx on December 03, 2015, 08:27:53 AM

This will help you understand better
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKfuS6gfxPY

The video started with Russian troops in Texas. Then it changed into Chinese troops in Texas. Not very consistent.

American troops on foreign soil actually protect these other nations from insurgency. Islam is conquering much of the world. American troops in Iraq and other places, even though they make mistakes at times, are protecting Iraq, and giving those people a chance to be free from Islamic slavery.

Look at Viet Nam. Even though America supposedly lost the Viet Nam war, the people of Viet Nam are freer today than they would ever have been had America not gone there.

Wake up and see that the best advantage for all people, both business and personal, is what America is trying to push around the world. People of foreign countries who fight America, are idiotically fighting their own freedom.

The stupid video is a head-hurting visual lecture of Ron Paul propaganda. Namely that "what do you expect after US invades their country?"

Problem is, this reverses cause and effect. Some terrorist group makes a nightmare of a small country, US goes in to help. Terrorist group then attacks US. It's not the US invading the country, but going their to help the legitimate government in place.

Oh, sure, the terrorist group claims "It's our land" blah blah blah along with ten other warring tribes.

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Quote from: anonymousx on December 03, 2015, 08:27:53 AM

This will help you understand better
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKfuS6gfxPY

The video started with Russian troops in Texas. Then it changed into Chinese troops in Texas. Not very consistent.

American troops on foreign soil actually protect these other nations from insurgency. Islam is conquering much of the world. American troops in Iraq and other places, even though they make mistakes at times, are protecting Iraq, and giving those people a chance to be free from Islamic slavery.

Look at Viet Nam. Even though America supposedly lost the Viet Nam war, the people of Viet Nam are freer today than they would ever have been had America not gone there.

Wake up and see that the best advantage for all people, both business and personal, is what America is trying to push around the world. People of foreign countries who fight America, are idiotically fighting their own freedom.

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Quote from: anonymousx on December 03, 2015, 08:27:53 AM

This will help you understand better
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKfuS6gfxPY

And what will make YOU understand better? Seriously, that's one of the goofiest, hardest on the eyes piece of crap I've ever seen.

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This will help you understand better
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKfuS6gfxPY

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Quote from: Inkvor on December 03, 2015, 02:57:59 AM

Quote from: BADecker on December 03, 2015, 02:28:59 AM

Quote from: Inkvor on December 03, 2015, 02:22:19 AM

Quote from: BADecker on November 30, 2015, 09:59:36 AM

Hate Islam, not Muslims. But if Muslims become Islam, take them down along with Islam.

good ways to sensationalize your bullshit decker, but i dont see a point to hate anyone other than you dont like them and that all your followers should hate all those whom you hate.
dosent matters if they have ever dealt with them personally, but your logic doesn't finds it important ,isin't it ?

Rock in the road.

Never hate a Muslim.

Most Muslims aren't Islam - they only think that they are Islamic.

Hate Islam; take it down.

If a Muslim forces himself in the way by becoming Islamic, take him down. But don't hate him.

If violnece is your soal reason for the hate then shouldn't you be hating all the wild animals ?
it is really childish to hate anyone when you dont know why you hate them .

This is true, at least somewhat.

Don't hate Muslims. Hate Islam. Generally Muslims aren't Islam. Islam is the teaching written in the Quran and Hadiths. Few Muslims (percentagewise) really know what it says in the Islamic writings.

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Quote from: BADecker on December 03, 2015, 02:28:59 AM

Quote from: Inkvor on December 03, 2015, 02:22:19 AM

Quote from: BADecker on November 30, 2015, 09:59:36 AM

Hate Islam, not Muslims. But if Muslims become Islam, take them down along with Islam.

good ways to sensationalize your bullshit decker, but i dont see a point to hate anyone other than you dont like them and that all your followers should hate all those whom you hate.
dosent matters if they have ever dealt with them personally, but your logic doesn't finds it important ,isin't it ?

Rock in the road.

Never hate a Muslim.

Most Muslims aren't Islam - they only think that they are Islamic.

Hate Islam; take it down.

If a Muslim forces himself in the way by becoming Islamic, take him down. But don't hate him.

If violnece is your soal reason for the hate then shouldn't you be hating all the wild animals ?
it is really childish to hate anyone when you dont know why you hate them .

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Quote from: Inkvor on December 03, 2015, 02:22:19 AM

Quote from: BADecker on November 30, 2015, 09:59:36 AM

Hate Islam, not Muslims. But if Muslims become Islam, take them down along with Islam.

good ways to sensationalize your bullshit decker, but i dont see a point to hate anyone other than you dont like them and that all your followers should hate all those whom you hate.
dosent matters if they have ever dealt with them personally, but your logic doesn't finds it important ,isin't it ?

Rock in the road.

Never hate a Muslim.

Most Muslims aren't Islam - they only think that they are Islamic.

Hate Islam; take it down.

If a Muslim forces himself in the way by becoming Islamic, take him down. But don't hate him.

Inkvor

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Quote from: BADecker on November 30, 2015, 09:59:36 AM

Hate Islam, not Muslims. But if Muslims become Islam, take them down along with Islam.

good ways to sensationalize your bullshit decker, but i dont see a point to hate anyone other than you dont like them and that all your followers should hate all those whom you hate.
dosent matters if they have ever dealt with them personally, but your logic doesn't finds it important ,isin't it ?

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Let's clarify all this.

Islam and Muslims are not the same thing. Islam is a religion/government. Muslims are people who have inherent values like the kind that are inside of all people.

Muslims as people are reasonably peaceful. Why is this? They have been taught to believe that Islam is peaceful. And they really don't want violence anyway, just like all people are inherently peaceful when not provoked. So they live their lives hoping for peace and joy.

When Muslims get a lot of Islam into themselves, they become violent, just like Islam is essential a violent religion/government. It is only then that Muslims become Islam.

Hate Islam, not Muslims. But if Muslims become Islam, take them down along with Islam.

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U will never know the true answer, before you try

because the TV station I declare the bad things about Islam, while Jews do the more heinous than that
Islam is not bad, if you learn more about it you will you will find peace

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Regarding the repeated assertions that "violent terrorism is not Islam", etc etc etc

Interesting interview of Republican presidential hopeful Marco Rubio (I don't support him, but he's a good man)

https://pjmedia.com/diaryofamadvoter/2015/11/30/exclusive-interview-rubio-vows-to-restore-intelligence-programs-restricted-by-obama

PJM: In a November 20 poll, 60% of Likely U. S. Voters believe the United States is at war with radical Islamic terrorism. Just 24% disagree. Yet even after the Paris massacre, Hillary Clinton refuses to name “radical Islam” as the enemy. Why do you think she does this? And why do you think it’s important to use the right terminology?

SENATOR RUBIO: I would begin the battle against ISIS by naming the enemy: radical Islamist jihadism. Hillary Clinton recently suggested that identifying our adversary “gives these criminals more standing than they deserve.” “In the end, it didn’t matter what kind of terrorist we called bin Laden,” she recently said, “it mattered that we killed bin Laden.”

As she often does, Hillary Clinton has chosen political correctness over political reality. For fear of offending some, she sweeps the complexities of the Middle East under the rug to argue that all terrorist groups are the same—guilty of the oversimplifying that she often accuses Republicans of doing. This isn’t an abstract debate over rhetoric; Clinton’s words have meaning.

Although Hezbollah, ISIS, al Qaeda, and Hamas all hate American values and target the West, there are major distinctions among them. To succeed in this struggle, we need to understand, for example, why ISIS is outrecruiting al Qaeda, or that Hezbollah is a Shiite terror group aligned with Iran. Naming the enemy is crucial to understanding the threat and devising a sound strategy.

In the USA right now, Obama and in general, Democrats, will not "Name the enemy."

Republicans want to "Name the enemy."

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Quote from: tom555 on November 30, 2015, 01:01:40 AM

they have an organization who also hate islam,and they just want to make dirty islam name.

That org.. is government and no they dont hate any religions ,it's holding them back so they never become that powerful and so become a threat to them ,business , money etcc.
However ,as VOD says 99% of the people are brainwashed ,there is no use of blaming a single religion.

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because the dont know islam,and they just know that some terorist is islam,but i think terorrist is not from islam,they have an organization who also hate islam,and they just want to make dirty islam name.

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