Topic: Why do people hate islam? - page 75. (Read 221077 times)

Study the history of what people did to muslims, invasion, stealing land resources, killing millions of children at the rate of thousands per day, manipulating and creating wars for personal benefits and joy, but still muslims didn't really revenge or do anything, what you see today the bombing and everything is a different story, this is no conspiracy theory.

check this out:

http://www.sott.net/article/273517-Study-US-regime-has-killed-20-30-million-people-since-World-War-Two

but I guess it doesn't matter how many muslims "other" people kills, all matters is the cost, since it's not your family or country, people need to really ditch governments, because government are the problem worldwide, not the people.

Vietnam, whole Arab world that was in piece before the propaganda of the "others", when a muslim die it's a causality, go check wikileaks for how many causalities, 300 killed in a factory, they was hiding as a shelter, they was no army, they was just women children and old people that didn't hurt anyone.

Imagine your self in your room, sleeping in piece and you wake up without sound in your ears, because a rocket hits your house, and you find your mom arms near you came from the other room, cut of course, try to put your self in people shoes before you judge.

3 guys blow them self up and suddenly everyone hates islam, whole army bomb a town and wipe 3000 persons and it's normal lol, go get a life.

There may be serious dedicated fighters who believe they are Muslim, but they are not true Muslims -- they are not following Mohammed's example. The Jihadists are following Mohammed's example by trying to strike terror into the hearts of unbelievers. Most Muslims, like most Christians, are just average people who know almost nothing about their religion.

Ditto ^^.

That's all there is then.

By snipping the remainder of your assertions I mean no disrespect.  I and others would simply argue and discuss the merits of the issues and persuade those who are stuck in 7th century thought patterns otherwise.  This is possible, we will all agree.

No, you are not wrong about that.

Here is the little crux that the terrorists are wrong in. It is the thing around which the peace and violence of Islam hangs. It is the mistake that the terrorists are making, and becomes the mistake that the non-terrorists, the peaceful Muslims, also make. In a word it is...

TIME.

Here is what I mean.

When Islam exists among peoples of other religions WHO ARE PEACEFUL, Muslims are REQUIRED to work peacefully with the other peoples for a reasonable period of ...TIME... to attempt to get these other people to convert to Islam. The amount of ...TIME... is not set, is never the same, depends on all kinds of conditions and circumstances, and is to be enacted by Muslims in humility towards all others. The problem with the terrorists is that they are pushing things way too fast to convert anyone to Islam.

The problem with the peaceful Muslims is, they want the period of peace to go on forever, not recognizing that there is a limit to the amount of ...TIME... that they are to put up with the insults of others peacefully.

The terrorists are way too fast in their violence, falling out of Islam somewhat, by not giving peaceful peoples the time to adapt. The peaceful Muslims are way too slow, almost forgetting their religion at times, because they haven't picked up the violence required by Islam when the other peoples adamantly will not become Muslims.

If the people of Islam want to spread their religion among the peaceful peoples of the world, they need to remember both parts, that there is to be a ...TIME... of peaceful mission work done, and when that ...TIME... is ended, they are to violently kill off the infidels. Get into the spirit of Islam, not just into a bunch of words.

Meaning all the problems with people hating Islam stem from Islam.

Duhh....


I cannot get to your viewpoint because I know that if I was fighting against ISIS or any of the extremist Muslims, there would be serious, dedicated Muslim fighters alongside me.

Or am I wrong about that?

And this has been true since the founding of the religion, when Mohammed and his followers destroyed the other religions in Mecca. It's well past time people educate themselves about Islam. The Western leaders who've spent the past 15 years repeating this "Great Religion of Peace" lie need to be shamed and silenced. History needs to remember them (including Bush, Obama, and most European leaders) the way it remembers Chamberlain after his Munich deal with Hitler.

Maybe it's time to kick Muslims out of the West. And I don't mean vote for people who say they'll do it. I mean just do it. Maybe it should be as dangerous to be a Muslim or Muslim-apologist in the West as it is to be a ex-Muslim in the Islamic World.

I never thought I "hated" Islam. I've spent some time since yesterday reevaluating.

I hate Islam. If you're Muslim, I hate you. I think you are either evil or ignorant or both. If you're ignorant of your religion, learn about it -- learn about it's dangerous bloody history -- and then try to find a safe way to leave it. If you do know about Islam and continue to believe in it, fuck you. You're a fucking Nazi and I hope you suffer the same fate the Nazis did. Seriously, fuck you.

the main hatred of islam stems from the fact that it doesn't play well with other religions. and because people generalize it based on the radicals terrorists

This is very sad and I understand your point of view.  We've seen it before by many Muslims. 

However, "radical Islam" is a subset of Islam.  It doesn't go away by wishing it to go away.

Because there are people who calls themselves muslims that kill innocent people and rapes etc.
Other people think Islam makes them do these kind of things so they prefer to hate Islam.
Actually bad people are everywhere.

After today, do we really need to ask why?

This sounds like a good point. But lets examine what Islam is. Can Islam be Islam without the Quran or the Hadiths?

If Islam can be Islam without the Quran and the Hadiths, then who decides what the rules of Islam are? Can anybody say that he follows Islam, and make up his own rules? If the Quran and the Hadiths are not the foundations of Islam, where are the rules that separate Islam from any other religion?

On the other hand, if the Quran and the Hadiths ARE the foundational writings of Islam, how is it that people can say that Muslim terrorists are not part of Islam? After all, there is terrorism type violence written right in the Quran and the Hadiths.

If someone says that such violence writings are only in self defense, that's not what the Quran and the Hadiths say. Even the traditions of Islam say that the writings of the Quran and the Hadiths refer to terrorism violence. To say that they do not, is to change the meanings of Arab words as well as Arab history.

If you are a Muslim, and you want to be peaceful towards people of other religions ALL THE TIME, you have to be a very weak Muslim. If you want to be a strong Muslim, and follow what the words of the Quran and the Hadiths say, rather than follow what you want the words to mean, then you have to be a terrorist.

because they dont know,what is the real islam,and islamic person,they not know the truth,they just know that the terortist take islam name on his action,its cannot blaming islam..

Even I do not hate Islam, it is a religion where you can learn good deeds But I agree about Jihadists They are wrong but Islam is purity So guys please don't judge lake side waste judge lake's purity I think this would helpful for your replies to know what is Islam. Jumma mubarak to all people

Yes, people can change their religion and their beliefs. That doesn't have anything to do with how bad the religion might be.

You can look at the various religions and see how good or bad they are. The Internet makes this easy. Just remember in your looking, that atheism and science are religions as well.

In addition, if I am sensationalizing my views, I can do it. I am free to do it like you are free to change your religion.

people are free to leave their believe or religion  ...it's their problem if they don't .
I left mine several year's ago .
you are sensationalizing your views ,just dont.

LOL: babysteps my young padawan.

But, but, but...

If the nail isn't long enough, or the wood is too thick, you'll have to smash the wood into pieces with the hammer, or the nail will never get to the other side.

 

Hammer and nail, see you on the other side

That's why we hate Islam. It is destroying those wonderful people, the Muslims. And it threatens disaster for many others. In fact, it is one of the great reasons why we are having the present conflicts in the Middle East.