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legendary
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November 29, 2015, 06:25:02 PM
Sometimes I almost seem to be wanting to turn the peaceful Muslims into people of violence in the way that I write about the violence directives in the Islamic writings. But, that is not what I want to do.

The thing that I am trying to do is to show peaceful Muslims that they, themselves, are interpreting the violence of their own religious writings into peace, even though those writings express a lot of violence directives.

The point is that Muslims are turning away from Islam by themselves, because most people want peace rather than violence. This is very evident among the Sunni's, who allow all kinds of religious practices in their Islam... almost so that you can't tell if the various Sunni's are really Sunni or really Islamic.

Sure, they call themselves Muslims. And they proclaim that they follow Islam. But they are so shocked at and abhorrent of the violence directives in their religious writings, that they attempt to turn these directives into things of peace.

Smiley

As an Atheist, I despise the very idea of defining people by one religion or another.  More than that, I despise the religion which encourages or requires such self-definition.

After that is done, though, then the discussion is "framed."  It is framed in terms of one religion versus another, instead of humans, one versus another.

So let me say straight out that your Christianity is not what I consider Christianity to best be, but this is a mild criticism.  At it's worst, Christianity cannot begin to reach the depravity of the bastardization of Islam by Sayd Qutb.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Cj_Qj3xMtY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ik0VUXVgWe4

Virtually no one in the Western world understands who Qutb was or his relationship to generations of radical Islam.  No doubt that is part of why and how they confuse Islam with extremist Islam.  However the very existence of such as the writings of Qutd show that radical Islam, is in fact a subset of Islam.

Well, at least that seems to be right.



Of course. That's what the atheism religion says. Avoid considering your religion and the religion of any other people at all costs. And use your religion of atheism to avoid itself.

You atheists are about as dense as anyone can get, even more dense than 1aguar and his PJs.

Smiley
legendary
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November 29, 2015, 03:47:32 PM
I don't Islam.

I don't Islam either. It'd be nice to live in a world where no one Islams.

Maybe, maybe not.

Ain't Lams could be worse.

EG, history of politically and fascist oriented athiests is rather bloody.
full member
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November 29, 2015, 01:54:56 PM
well i dont hate it i dont have any opinion about it
hero member
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November 29, 2015, 01:45:43 PM
I don't know why people hate them is just stupid.

Not every one is a bad person. But yeah this are humans hating everyone -.-
legendary
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November 29, 2015, 11:23:39 AM
Oh relax. Islam is a breakfast restaurant. It's a cross between IHOP and Denny's. They call it Islam because that is what their main breakfast dish is... the Ihop-Slam.


 Cheesy
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Islam and Nazism are belief systems, not races.
November 29, 2015, 10:50:02 AM
I don't Islam.

I don't Islam either. It'd be nice to live in a world where no one Islams.
legendary
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November 29, 2015, 08:10:16 AM
Sometimes I almost seem to be wanting to turn the peaceful Muslims into people of violence in the way that I write about the violence directives in the Islamic writings. But, that is not what I want to do.

The thing that I am trying to do is to show peaceful Muslims that they, themselves, are interpreting the violence of their own religious writings into peace, even though those writings express a lot of violence directives.

The point is that Muslims are turning away from Islam by themselves, because most people want peace rather than violence. This is very evident among the Sunni's, who allow all kinds of religious practices in their Islam... almost so that you can't tell if the various Sunni's are really Sunni or really Islamic.

Sure, they call themselves Muslims. And they proclaim that they follow Islam. But they are so shocked at and abhorrent of the violence directives in their religious writings, that they attempt to turn these directives into things of peace.

Smiley

As an Atheist, I despise the very idea of defining people by one religion or another.  More than that, I despise the religion which encourages or requires such self-definition.

After that is done, though, then the discussion is "framed."  It is framed in terms of one religion versus another, instead of humans, one versus another.

So let me say straight out that your Christianity is not what I consider Christianity to best be, but this is a mild criticism.  At it's worst, Christianity cannot begin to reach the depravity of the bastardization of Islam by Sayd Qutb.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Cj_Qj3xMtY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ik0VUXVgWe4

Virtually no one in the Western world understands who Qutb was or his relationship to generations of radical Islam.  No doubt that is part of why and how they confuse Islam with extremist Islam.  However the very existence of such as the writings of Qutd show that radical Islam, is in fact a subset of Islam.

Well, at least that seems to be right.



I know information is readily available but you sir, have done a good job finding it and making sense of it.
Thanks.
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November 29, 2015, 03:10:58 AM
Sometimes I almost seem to be wanting to turn the peaceful Muslims into people of violence in the way that I write about the violence directives in the Islamic writings. But, that is not what I want to do.

The thing that I am trying to do is to show peaceful Muslims that they, themselves, are interpreting the violence of their own religious writings into peace, even though those writings express a lot of violence directives.

The point is that Muslims are turning away from Islam by themselves, because most people want peace rather than violence. This is very evident among the Sunni's, who allow all kinds of religious practices in their Islam... almost so that you can't tell if the various Sunni's are really Sunni or really Islamic.

Sure, they call themselves Muslims. And they proclaim that they follow Islam. But they are so shocked at and abhorrent of the violence directives in their religious writings, that they attempt to turn these directives into things of peace.

Smiley

As an Atheist, I despise the very idea of defining people by one religion or another.  More than that, I despise the religion which encourages or requires such self-definition.

After that is done, though, then the discussion is "framed."  It is framed in terms of one religion versus another, instead of humans, one versus another.

So let me say straight out that your Christianity is not what I consider Christianity to best be, but this is a mild criticism.  At it's worst, Christianity cannot begin to reach the depravity of the bastardization of Islam by Sayd Qutb.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Cj_Qj3xMtY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ik0VUXVgWe4

Virtually no one in the Western world understands who Qutb was or his relationship to generations of radical Islam.  No doubt that is part of why and how they confuse Islam with extremist Islam.  However the very existence of such as the writings of Qutd show that radical Islam, is in fact a subset of Islam.

Well, at least that seems to be right.



I know information is readily available but you sir, have done a good job finding it and making sense of it.
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While my guitar gently weeps!!!
November 27, 2015, 11:42:43 PM
Maybe because people think "Most of the terrorists are Islamist" but that was "stereotyping" specially nowadays that bombings and killings are done by those terrorist, people feel that they are always the culprit... lets not judge them in general...

Yes exactly, that's exactly what these terrorist are doing, shedding the Islam in bad light. I feel bad for the true Muslims out there who are the innocent ones.

that's right... I just hope that every one should respect each other specially the culture and religion where... while reading and writing I just remember the song  "Under the same sun" by scorpion... that has a very nice message...  Smiley
legendary
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November 28, 2015, 10:12:34 PM
Sometimes I almost seem to be wanting to turn the peaceful Muslims into people of violence in the way that I write about the violence directives in the Islamic writings. But, that is not what I want to do.

The thing that I am trying to do is to show peaceful Muslims that they, themselves, are interpreting the violence of their own religious writings into peace, even though those writings express a lot of violence directives.

The point is that Muslims are turning away from Islam by themselves, because most people want peace rather than violence. This is very evident among the Sunni's, who allow all kinds of religious practices in their Islam... almost so that you can't tell if the various Sunni's are really Sunni or really Islamic.

Sure, they call themselves Muslims. And they proclaim that they follow Islam. But they are so shocked at and abhorrent of the violence directives in their religious writings, that they attempt to turn these directives into things of peace.

Smiley

As an Atheist, I despise the very idea of defining people by one religion or another.  More than that, I despise the religion which encourages or requires such self-definition.

After that is done, though, then the discussion is "framed."  It is framed in terms of one religion versus another, instead of humans, one versus another.

So let me say straight out that your Christianity is not what I consider Christianity to best be, but this is a mild criticism.  At it's worst, Christianity cannot begin to reach the depravity of the bastardization of Islam by Sayd Qutb.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Cj_Qj3xMtY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ik0VUXVgWe4

Virtually no one in the Western world understands who Qutb was or his relationship to generations of radical Islam.  No doubt that is part of why and how they confuse Islam with extremist Islam.  However the very existence of such as the writings of Qutd show that radical Islam, is in fact a subset of Islam.

Well, at least that seems to be right.

legendary
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November 28, 2015, 08:38:08 PM
Sometimes I almost seem to be wanting to turn the peaceful Muslims into people of violence in the way that I write about the violence directives in the Islamic writings. But, that is not what I want to do.

The thing that I am trying to do is to show peaceful Muslims that they, themselves, are interpreting the violence of their own religious writings into peace, even though those writings express a lot of violence directives.

The point is that Muslims are turning away from Islam by themselves, because most people want peace rather than violence. This is very evident among the Sunni's, who allow all kinds of religious practices in their Islam... almost so that you can't tell if the various Sunni's are really Sunni or really Islamic.

Sure, they call themselves Muslims. And they proclaim that they follow Islam. But they are so shocked at and abhorrent of the violence directives in their religious writings, that they attempt to turn these directives into things of peace.

Smiley
legendary
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November 28, 2015, 08:27:28 PM
Not actually hate it, but many issues with it surely.

I don't Islam. Its a actually a really peaceful religion but its just those crazy people who claim to be muslim when they're not and mess up the muslim name. Its kind of sad how the media always portrays Islam bad al the time. There are 6.8 billion muslims in the world i think there a the good ones out there. Every religion has extremists and crazy people we just go to accept it.

I agree.  It's sad how Muslim extremists, beginning with Yassir Arafat and continuing to today and getting worse, have persisted in manipulating the media so that their atrocities always get main headlines.

Behind the violence, there's nothing but Attention Whoring.





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November 28, 2015, 07:26:43 PM
I don't hate islam.
Actually I have a lot of islamic friends.
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November 28, 2015, 07:08:30 PM
Not actually hate it, but many issues with it surely.

I don't Islam. Its a actually a really peaceful religion but its just those crazy people who claim to be muslim when they're not and mess up the muslim name. Its kind of sad how the media always portrays Islam bad al the time. There are 6.8 billion muslims in the world i think there a the good ones out there. Every religion has extremists and crazy people we just go to accept it.
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November 28, 2015, 03:16:48 PM
Not actually hate it, but many issues with it surely.
legendary
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November 27, 2015, 11:51:31 PM
Maybe because people think "Most of the terrorists are Islamist" but that was "stereotyping" specially nowadays that bombings and killings are done by those terrorist, people feel that they are always the culprit... lets not judge them in general...

Yes exactly, that's exactly what these terrorist are doing, shedding the Islam in bad light. I feel bad for the true Muslims out there who are the innocent ones.

that's right... I just hope that every one should respect each other specially the culture and religion where... while reading and writing I just remember the song  "Under the same sun" by scorpion... that has a very nice message...  Smiley

I am certain that if (in another day and age) it was Japanese terrorists, we would call them Japanese terrorists.  If it were Nazi terrorists, we would call them Nazi terrorists.  And if they are identifiable as Muslim terrorists, then they should be called that.

Nobody sane ever argued that all Japanese were terrorists or all Germans were terrorists.

This is a "Straw Man Argument."  A logical fallacy.  You can see clearly that it comes up repeatedly in this thread.  As follows -

Person A uses the phrase "Muslim terrorists" or something similar.

Then B argues "But all Muslims are not terrorists! (blah blah blah)!"

But that wasn't the argument made by A.  It is simply a misrepresentation of A's argument made by B for his own purposes.

Do you think people are stupid?
legendary
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November 27, 2015, 08:54:19 PM
Why does the Islam hate other people??


Funny... There is a thread about that...
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/why-do-islam-hates-people-888757

 Cool

legendary
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November 27, 2015, 06:32:09 PM
At least one person has seen the true concept of Islam. You see what's happening is
that the media is brainwashing everyone to think that Islam is trying to oppress women,
etc. where in fact it preaches the opposite. You also get the muslim extremists who
try to force Islam to the world, but like I said they are the extremists. I think we muslims
should speak louder to the world, and its happening but no one is listening. Take the
Israeli attack on the flotilla for example, there were a lot of happenings that the media
havent included. If the people in the flotilla were armed then why is it that there was no
Israeli soldier killed? That is just one example. Many people believe Islam = Terrorism
when in fact Islam is peace. That's why whenever I get the opportunity I tell people to
look in to the Quran and tafseer before saying that Islam is terrorism.

You have a number of logical fallacies.

Islam = Terrorism    Straw man argument.
Islam is peace          Overly broad generalization
At least one person has seen the true concept of Islam.   "True Scotsman" logical fallacy.

There is nothing wrong with describing a group of Muslims engaged in terrorism as "Violent Muslim extremists."  Etc.

And there is nothing wrong with describing any or all of them as potential terrorists, because there is too much violence in their sacred writings to deem them anything else. Sleeper Muslims.

Smiley
That's ridiculous.  You presume that they are as brainwashed on Islam as you are on Christianity.  But that's ridiculous, few people of any religion are.  Most people are in a religion only because other people around them are and there are day to day benefits to it.

So when the koran talk about killing girls that gets raped its bad, but when the bible says the same thing it's good.
When the koran talks about killing disbelievers its bad, but when its said in the bible its good.
.....

Exactly.
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November 27, 2015, 03:21:17 PM
So when the koran talk about killing girls that gets raped its bad, but when the bible says the same thing it's good.
When the koran talks about killing disbelievers its bad, but when its said in the bible its good.
Same with whatever. the books are mirror images.
This is very confusing
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November 27, 2015, 03:14:57 PM
Why does the Islam hate other people??
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