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legendary
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December 03, 2015, 04:03:02 AM

Hate Islam, not Muslims. But if Muslims become Islam, take them down along with Islam.

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good ways to sensationalize your bullshit decker, but i dont see a point to hate anyone other than you dont like them and that all your followers should hate all those whom you hate.
dosent matters if they have ever dealt with them personally, but your logic doesn't finds it important ,isin't it ?


Rock in the road.

Never hate a Muslim.

Most Muslims aren't Islam - they only think that they are Islamic.

Hate Islam; take it down.

If a Muslim forces himself in the way by becoming Islamic, take him down. But don't hate him.

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If violnece is your soal reason for the hate then shouldn't you be hating all the wild animals ?
it is really childish to hate anyone when you dont know why you hate them .

This is true, at least somewhat.

Don't hate Muslims. Hate Islam. Generally Muslims aren't Islam. Islam is the teaching written in the Quran and Hadiths. Few Muslims (percentagewise) really know what it says in the Islamic writings.

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December 03, 2015, 03:57:59 AM

Hate Islam, not Muslims. But if Muslims become Islam, take them down along with Islam.

Smiley
good ways to sensationalize your bullshit decker, but i dont see a point to hate anyone other than you dont like them and that all your followers should hate all those whom you hate.
dosent matters if they have ever dealt with them personally, but your logic doesn't finds it important ,isin't it ?


Rock in the road.

Never hate a Muslim.

Most Muslims aren't Islam - they only think that they are Islamic.

Hate Islam; take it down.

If a Muslim forces himself in the way by becoming Islamic, take him down. But don't hate him.

Smiley
If violnece is your soal reason for the hate then shouldn't you be hating all the wild animals ?
it is really childish to hate anyone when you dont know why you hate them .
legendary
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December 03, 2015, 03:28:59 AM

Hate Islam, not Muslims. But if Muslims become Islam, take them down along with Islam.

Smiley
good ways to sensationalize your bullshit decker, but i dont see a point to hate anyone other than you dont like them and that all your followers should hate all those whom you hate.
dosent matters if they have ever dealt with them personally, but your logic doesn't finds it important ,isin't it ?


Rock in the road.

Never hate a Muslim.

Most Muslims aren't Islam - they only think that they are Islamic.

Hate Islam; take it down.

If a Muslim forces himself in the way by becoming Islamic, take him down. But don't hate him.

Smiley
hero member
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December 03, 2015, 03:22:19 AM

Hate Islam, not Muslims. But if Muslims become Islam, take them down along with Islam.

Smiley
good ways to sensationalize your bullshit decker, but i dont see a point to hate anyone other than you dont like them and that all your followers should hate all those whom you hate.
dosent matters if they have ever dealt with them personally, but your logic doesn't finds it important ,isin't it ?
legendary
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November 30, 2015, 10:59:36 AM
Let's clarify all this.

Islam and Muslims are not the same thing. Islam is a religion/government. Muslims are people who have inherent values like the kind that are inside of all people.

Muslims as people are reasonably peaceful. Why is this? They have been taught to believe that Islam is peaceful. And they really don't want violence anyway, just like all people are inherently peaceful when not provoked. So they live their lives hoping for peace and joy.

When Muslims get a lot of Islam into themselves, they become violent, just like Islam is essential a violent religion/government. It is only then that Muslims become Islam.

Hate Islam, not Muslims. But if Muslims become Islam, take them down along with Islam.

Smiley
sr. member
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U will never know the true answer, before you try
November 30, 2015, 10:47:41 AM
because the TV station I declare the bad things about Islam, while Jews do the more heinous than that
Islam is not bad, if you learn more about it you will you will find peace
legendary
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November 30, 2015, 10:44:14 AM
Regarding the repeated assertions that "violent terrorism is not Islam", etc etc etc

Interesting interview of Republican presidential hopeful Marco Rubio (I don't support him, but he's a good man)

https://pjmedia.com/diaryofamadvoter/2015/11/30/exclusive-interview-rubio-vows-to-restore-intelligence-programs-restricted-by-obama

PJM: In a November 20 poll, 60% of Likely U. S. Voters believe the United States is at war with radical Islamic terrorism.  Just 24% disagree.  Yet even after the Paris massacre, Hillary Clinton refuses to name “radical Islam” as the enemy. Why do you think she does this? And why do you think it’s important to use the right terminology?

SENATOR RUBIO: I would begin the battle against ISIS by naming the enemy: radical Islamist jihadism. Hillary Clinton recently suggested that identifying our adversary “gives these criminals more standing than they deserve.” “In the end, it didn’t matter what kind of terrorist we called bin Laden,” she recently said, “it mattered that we killed bin Laden.”

 As she often does, Hillary Clinton has chosen political correctness over political reality. For fear of offending some, she sweeps the complexities of the Middle East under the rug to argue that all terrorist groups are the same—guilty of the oversimplifying that she often accuses Republicans of doing. This isn’t an abstract debate over rhetoric; Clinton’s words have meaning. 

 Although Hezbollah, ISIS, al Qaeda, and Hamas all hate American values and target the West, there are major distinctions among them. To succeed in this struggle, we need to understand, for example, why ISIS is outrecruiting al Qaeda, or that Hezbollah is a Shiite terror group aligned with Iran. Naming the enemy is crucial to understanding the threat and devising a sound strategy.

In the USA right now, Obama and in general, Democrats, will not "Name the enemy."

Republicans want to "Name the enemy."
full member
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November 30, 2015, 07:56:40 AM
they have an organization who also hate islam,and they just want to make dirty islam name.
That org.. is government and no they dont hate any religions ,it's holding them back so they never become that powerful and so become a threat to them ,business , money etcc.
However ,as VOD says 99% of the people are brainwashed ,there is no use of blaming a single religion.
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November 30, 2015, 02:01:40 AM
because the dont know islam,and they just know that some terorist is islam,but i think terorrist is not from islam,they have an organization who also hate islam,and they just want to make dirty islam name.
legendary
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November 29, 2015, 07:25:02 PM
Sometimes I almost seem to be wanting to turn the peaceful Muslims into people of violence in the way that I write about the violence directives in the Islamic writings. But, that is not what I want to do.

The thing that I am trying to do is to show peaceful Muslims that they, themselves, are interpreting the violence of their own religious writings into peace, even though those writings express a lot of violence directives.

The point is that Muslims are turning away from Islam by themselves, because most people want peace rather than violence. This is very evident among the Sunni's, who allow all kinds of religious practices in their Islam... almost so that you can't tell if the various Sunni's are really Sunni or really Islamic.

Sure, they call themselves Muslims. And they proclaim that they follow Islam. But they are so shocked at and abhorrent of the violence directives in their religious writings, that they attempt to turn these directives into things of peace.

Smiley

As an Atheist, I despise the very idea of defining people by one religion or another.  More than that, I despise the religion which encourages or requires such self-definition.

After that is done, though, then the discussion is "framed."  It is framed in terms of one religion versus another, instead of humans, one versus another.

So let me say straight out that your Christianity is not what I consider Christianity to best be, but this is a mild criticism.  At it's worst, Christianity cannot begin to reach the depravity of the bastardization of Islam by Sayd Qutb.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Cj_Qj3xMtY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ik0VUXVgWe4

Virtually no one in the Western world understands who Qutb was or his relationship to generations of radical Islam.  No doubt that is part of why and how they confuse Islam with extremist Islam.  However the very existence of such as the writings of Qutd show that radical Islam, is in fact a subset of Islam.

Well, at least that seems to be right.



Of course. That's what the atheism religion says. Avoid considering your religion and the religion of any other people at all costs. And use your religion of atheism to avoid itself.

You atheists are about as dense as anyone can get, even more dense than 1aguar and his PJs.

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legendary
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November 29, 2015, 04:47:32 PM
I don't Islam.

I don't Islam either. It'd be nice to live in a world where no one Islams.

Maybe, maybe not.

Ain't Lams could be worse.

EG, history of politically and fascist oriented athiests is rather bloody.
full member
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November 29, 2015, 02:54:56 PM
well i dont hate it i dont have any opinion about it
hero member
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November 29, 2015, 02:45:43 PM
I don't know why people hate them is just stupid.

Not every one is a bad person. But yeah this are humans hating everyone -.-
legendary
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November 29, 2015, 12:23:39 PM
Oh relax. Islam is a breakfast restaurant. It's a cross between IHOP and Denny's. They call it Islam because that is what their main breakfast dish is... the Ihop-Slam.


 Cheesy
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Islam and Nazism are belief systems, not races.
November 29, 2015, 11:50:02 AM
I don't Islam.

I don't Islam either. It'd be nice to live in a world where no one Islams.
legendary
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November 29, 2015, 09:10:16 AM
Sometimes I almost seem to be wanting to turn the peaceful Muslims into people of violence in the way that I write about the violence directives in the Islamic writings. But, that is not what I want to do.

The thing that I am trying to do is to show peaceful Muslims that they, themselves, are interpreting the violence of their own religious writings into peace, even though those writings express a lot of violence directives.

The point is that Muslims are turning away from Islam by themselves, because most people want peace rather than violence. This is very evident among the Sunni's, who allow all kinds of religious practices in their Islam... almost so that you can't tell if the various Sunni's are really Sunni or really Islamic.

Sure, they call themselves Muslims. And they proclaim that they follow Islam. But they are so shocked at and abhorrent of the violence directives in their religious writings, that they attempt to turn these directives into things of peace.

Smiley

As an Atheist, I despise the very idea of defining people by one religion or another.  More than that, I despise the religion which encourages or requires such self-definition.

After that is done, though, then the discussion is "framed."  It is framed in terms of one religion versus another, instead of humans, one versus another.

So let me say straight out that your Christianity is not what I consider Christianity to best be, but this is a mild criticism.  At it's worst, Christianity cannot begin to reach the depravity of the bastardization of Islam by Sayd Qutb.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Cj_Qj3xMtY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ik0VUXVgWe4

Virtually no one in the Western world understands who Qutb was or his relationship to generations of radical Islam.  No doubt that is part of why and how they confuse Islam with extremist Islam.  However the very existence of such as the writings of Qutd show that radical Islam, is in fact a subset of Islam.

Well, at least that seems to be right.



I know information is readily available but you sir, have done a good job finding it and making sense of it.
Thanks.
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November 29, 2015, 04:10:58 AM
Sometimes I almost seem to be wanting to turn the peaceful Muslims into people of violence in the way that I write about the violence directives in the Islamic writings. But, that is not what I want to do.

The thing that I am trying to do is to show peaceful Muslims that they, themselves, are interpreting the violence of their own religious writings into peace, even though those writings express a lot of violence directives.

The point is that Muslims are turning away from Islam by themselves, because most people want peace rather than violence. This is very evident among the Sunni's, who allow all kinds of religious practices in their Islam... almost so that you can't tell if the various Sunni's are really Sunni or really Islamic.

Sure, they call themselves Muslims. And they proclaim that they follow Islam. But they are so shocked at and abhorrent of the violence directives in their religious writings, that they attempt to turn these directives into things of peace.

Smiley

As an Atheist, I despise the very idea of defining people by one religion or another.  More than that, I despise the religion which encourages or requires such self-definition.

After that is done, though, then the discussion is "framed."  It is framed in terms of one religion versus another, instead of humans, one versus another.

So let me say straight out that your Christianity is not what I consider Christianity to best be, but this is a mild criticism.  At it's worst, Christianity cannot begin to reach the depravity of the bastardization of Islam by Sayd Qutb.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Cj_Qj3xMtY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ik0VUXVgWe4

Virtually no one in the Western world understands who Qutb was or his relationship to generations of radical Islam.  No doubt that is part of why and how they confuse Islam with extremist Islam.  However the very existence of such as the writings of Qutd show that radical Islam, is in fact a subset of Islam.

Well, at least that seems to be right.



I know information is readily available but you sir, have done a good job finding it and making sense of it.
global moderator
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While my guitar gently weeps!!!
November 28, 2015, 12:42:43 AM
Maybe because people think "Most of the terrorists are Islamist" but that was "stereotyping" specially nowadays that bombings and killings are done by those terrorist, people feel that they are always the culprit... lets not judge them in general...

Yes exactly, that's exactly what these terrorist are doing, shedding the Islam in bad light. I feel bad for the true Muslims out there who are the innocent ones.

that's right... I just hope that every one should respect each other specially the culture and religion where... while reading and writing I just remember the song  "Under the same sun" by scorpion... that has a very nice message...  Smiley
legendary
Activity: 2912
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November 28, 2015, 11:12:34 PM
Sometimes I almost seem to be wanting to turn the peaceful Muslims into people of violence in the way that I write about the violence directives in the Islamic writings. But, that is not what I want to do.

The thing that I am trying to do is to show peaceful Muslims that they, themselves, are interpreting the violence of their own religious writings into peace, even though those writings express a lot of violence directives.

The point is that Muslims are turning away from Islam by themselves, because most people want peace rather than violence. This is very evident among the Sunni's, who allow all kinds of religious practices in their Islam... almost so that you can't tell if the various Sunni's are really Sunni or really Islamic.

Sure, they call themselves Muslims. And they proclaim that they follow Islam. But they are so shocked at and abhorrent of the violence directives in their religious writings, that they attempt to turn these directives into things of peace.

Smiley

As an Atheist, I despise the very idea of defining people by one religion or another.  More than that, I despise the religion which encourages or requires such self-definition.

After that is done, though, then the discussion is "framed."  It is framed in terms of one religion versus another, instead of humans, one versus another.

So let me say straight out that your Christianity is not what I consider Christianity to best be, but this is a mild criticism.  At it's worst, Christianity cannot begin to reach the depravity of the bastardization of Islam by Sayd Qutb.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Cj_Qj3xMtY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ik0VUXVgWe4

Virtually no one in the Western world understands who Qutb was or his relationship to generations of radical Islam.  No doubt that is part of why and how they confuse Islam with extremist Islam.  However the very existence of such as the writings of Qutd show that radical Islam, is in fact a subset of Islam.

Well, at least that seems to be right.

legendary
Activity: 3906
Merit: 1373
November 28, 2015, 09:38:08 PM
Sometimes I almost seem to be wanting to turn the peaceful Muslims into people of violence in the way that I write about the violence directives in the Islamic writings. But, that is not what I want to do.

The thing that I am trying to do is to show peaceful Muslims that they, themselves, are interpreting the violence of their own religious writings into peace, even though those writings express a lot of violence directives.

The point is that Muslims are turning away from Islam by themselves, because most people want peace rather than violence. This is very evident among the Sunni's, who allow all kinds of religious practices in their Islam... almost so that you can't tell if the various Sunni's are really Sunni or really Islamic.

Sure, they call themselves Muslims. And they proclaim that they follow Islam. But they are so shocked at and abhorrent of the violence directives in their religious writings, that they attempt to turn these directives into things of peace.

Smiley
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