Topic: Why do people hate islam? - page 78. (Read 221036 times)

something like that..i mean the religions are made to get the never ending power and the most beautiful women..
but i guess the plans change as the centuries change ,,,haha

You hate Em? He makes such good music though. "Lose yourself in the music"

It's when the phrase "The WORD of GOD" starts coming up that I check to see I've got a firm hand on my wallet.

Ill tell you why I hate emm.

They treat there women like shit.  The ones I have seen and ran into here in the US.  Tend to step in front of you.  Never say anything.  Rude attitudes.  Seems like they think we own them something.
The fact that they come here to the US and try to change things.  Create there own laws and tell people we are offended by your flag or you religion.

LOL. Now I get ya.

"First you get the money,

Then you get the power,

Then you get the women"

-Tony Montana

my bad ,i didnt had  a better word  for that..
religions solely made for POWER and WOMEN ..and currently for money

Don't get what your saying on the first part, but no, I meant christians specifically as that has been MY experience. I do think it applies to any religious group, but my experience has been with just one.

And no, I'm not racist. I think all races are equally worthless. Religion is not a race.

what made you think to exclude WOMEN ? and in this centuary money ' too.

A bit racist ? maybe you meant to say you dont trust any religios person or theist ?
using the word christian' is a bit sahdy again.

The good things in religion (any religion as far as I've been able to ascertain) are shared by all philosophies. Be decent to your neighbors, don't steal, don't murder, things of that nature.

Unfortunately, they add a lot of shit on top of that, and with a god as backing, believers will ignore the contradictions, embrace the things that destroy the good, and generally muck things up. At the root of all organized religions is the will to power.

Having been raised a Christian, I do have a fair amount of hatred for that particular boondoggle. I try not to. I don't hate Christians, but I do distrust them. Because of their religion, and it's customs. Since I am an unbeliever, a great many of them do not see it as immoral to cheat me, where they would never think of such a thing with one of their own.

In spite of that, I still maintain that most religious people (and I count many of many faiths among my friends) are decent people. Usually in spite of their religion, not because of it. It actually frightens me a great deal when I hear religious people claiming that their particular book/prophet/drug trip is all that restrains them from raping and pillaging. If true, then those people are a deficit to the human race REGARDLESS of their faith. Yet they present this as a positive argument. I don't rape and pillage because it's simply wrong.

I'm glad you think so.

Unfortunately, it is often the Christians who have hurt God the most. Often they realize their free Jesus salvation, and so don't take the time to do what is right as hard as they would if it all depended on themselves. It hurts God and their fellow people. But they still are forgiven and saved if they continue to believe in Jesus.

One of the biggest problems with the sinning Christian - and one need to be careful how he understands this, so that he doesn't start to depend on his own non-sinning - sinning eats away at the faith in Jesus. If the faith is lost, the person is lost.

That's....beautiful actually.

My beliefs are the same as yours. I have never tried it, but I believe that if I stop eating food, drinking water, and breathing air, I will die because of it. Don't you believe the same about yourself? Neither of us has tried it for very long.

But in other beliefs we may be extremely different.

Judgmental is the way we all are. We make judgments about many things every day.

Islam preaches that the way to Heaven is through good works of the individual. Christianity preaches that the way to Heaven is by believing that Jesus did the good works for all people, and offers people Heaven as a gift... if they believe and trust in Him.

I don't mind constructive criticism of any religion whatsoever. My issue lies merely with people like BADecker, who try to put down other religions, when their own beliefs are identical to the ones they are so judgmental upon.

The Christian document from which everything else Christian is taken is the Bible. Just because some people call themselves Christian, and then don't act according to the document, doesn't mean they are really Christian. It is similar for Islam. You can call yourself Muslim all day long, but if you don't act according to the document, you are not acting Muslim.

Christian documents, especially the New Testament have no directives for violence. In fact, the directives are to do exactly the opposite even in the face of violence done to the Christian... like turning the other cheek.

The gist of the Islamic documents is, peace to fellow Muslims, peace to non-Muslims while there is the chance that they might turn and become Muslims, and violence against all who adamantly will not become Muslim or those who turn away from Islam having once been Muslim.

You can strap all kinds of religious words and names to yourself, but if you do not follow the dictates of the religion, you are not really part of that religion.

By this logic, in my own case, I should be Jewish, Christian, Muslim, Hindu, Sikh, Buddhist, Satanic, Zoroastrian, Discordian, Republican, Democrat, Tory, and on and on. I have purchased a great many books and read even more than that. I claim they have NO authority over me. Have they influenced me? Oh, definitely. Particularly, the first ones in my list. The Bible, the Bhagavit-veda (sp?), the Q'uran, the Torah, all of these have taught me that MEN made god in their image. And that said image was usually heavily influenced by the will to power, and judging by the imagery, hallucinogens. There is no better argument for agnostic beliefs than the holy books of the various religions. Especially if you read a bunch of 'em.

I was thinking much the same thing. Christianity, by and large, has become a semi peaceful religion in which it's most fervent adherents only wish death upon the unbeliever, rather than making it happen. 700 years ago, you couldn't say that. Maybe in 700 years, Islam will grow up some too. (that number is not arbitrary)

True. But the difference with the Bible is, it is through reading the Bible, or listening to it on Bible CDs, the Holy Spirit of God makes inroads into peoples' lives. Thus the authority of God will appear through the people who are one God's side because they have read the Bible.

Not everyone listens to the calling of the Holy Spirit when they read the Bible. It is doubly sad for them, because they came so close, yet lost it all.

 

A book doesn't have authority over any other human being. Humans have the illusion that books dictate their lives

Lots of Egyptians, Nipponese, Chinese, and others have gone out and bought a Bible at the store. Therefore the Bible does have authority for them.