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legendary
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September 19, 2015, 12:27:25 AM
I'm not a huge fan of any religion, but hating them is not one of them.
I can listen and learn from them but I'm not giving my life for them. I know they are meant to be good but most religious people judge so quickly without even thinking about it.
 
legendary
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September 18, 2015, 09:23:43 PM
I don't mind constructive criticism of any religion whatsoever. My issue lies merely with people like BADecker, who try to put down other religions, when their own beliefs are identical to the ones they are so judgmental upon.

My beliefs are the same as yours. I have never tried it, but I believe that if I stop eating food, drinking water, and breathing air, I will die because of it. Don't you believe the same about yourself? Neither of us has tried it for very long.

But in other beliefs we may be extremely different.

Judgmental is the way we all are. We make judgments about many things every day.

Islam preaches that the way to Heaven is through good works of the individual. Christianity preaches that the way to Heaven is by believing that Jesus did the good works for all people, and offers people Heaven as a gift... if they believe and trust in Him.

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That's....beautiful actually.

I'm glad you think so.

Unfortunately, it is often the Christians who have hurt God the most. Often they realize their free Jesus salvation, and so don't take the time to do what is right as hard as they would if it all depended on themselves. It hurts God and their fellow people. But they still are forgiven and saved if they continue to believe in Jesus.

One of the biggest problems with the sinning Christian - and one need to be careful how he understands this, so that he doesn't start to depend on his own non-sinning - sinning eats away at the faith in Jesus. If the faith is lost, the person is lost.

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September 18, 2015, 08:35:40 PM
I don't mind constructive criticism of any religion whatsoever. My issue lies merely with people like BADecker, who try to put down other religions, when their own beliefs are identical to the ones they are so judgmental upon.

My beliefs are the same as yours. I have never tried it, but I believe that if I stop eating food, drinking water, and breathing air, I will die because of it. Don't you believe the same about yourself? Neither of us has tried it for very long.

But in other beliefs we may be extremely different.

Judgmental is the way we all are. We make judgments about many things every day.

Islam preaches that the way to Heaven is through good works of the individual. Christianity preaches that the way to Heaven is by believing that Jesus did the good works for all people, and offers people Heaven as a gift... if they believe and trust in Him.

Smiley

That's....beautiful actually.
legendary
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September 18, 2015, 08:25:28 PM
I don't mind constructive criticism of any religion whatsoever. My issue lies merely with people like BADecker, who try to put down other religions, when their own beliefs are identical to the ones they are so judgmental upon.

My beliefs are the same as yours. I have never tried it, but I believe that if I stop eating food, drinking water, and breathing air, I will die because of it. Don't you believe the same about yourself? Neither of us has tried it for very long.

But in other beliefs we may be extremely different.

Judgmental is the way we all are. We make judgments about many things every day.

Islam preaches that the way to Heaven is through good works of the individual. Christianity preaches that the way to Heaven is by believing that Jesus did the good works for all people, and offers people Heaven as a gift... if they believe and trust in Him.

Smiley
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September 18, 2015, 08:11:24 PM
I don't mind constructive criticism of any religion whatsoever. My issue lies merely with people like BADecker, who try to put down other religions, when their own beliefs are identical to the ones they are so judgmental upon.
legendary
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September 18, 2015, 08:08:33 PM
Terrorism emanates from hate and going by your posts I can say you harbour lot of hate towards muslims.Thank god people like you are confined to express their hatred online only

I don't hate Muslims. In my experience most Muslims are like most Christians -- they don't know jack shit about their religion. The problem with Muslims is only if they start learning about their religion and taking it seriously. I suspect most Muslims who get to the point that they start learning about their religion either (1) stop learning about it because of the consequences or (2) stop believing in Islam but pretend to in order to stay alive. It's the third category -- those that learn about it and believe more fervently -- that form groups like ISIS.

Yes!

This is the thing that I have been trying to get people to understand for a long time, now.

People just can't get it through their thick skulls that Islam is that violent... at least not until they become full fledged Muslims, and then it is too late to back out easily.

Smiley

Leviticus 20:27 "And as for a man or woman in whom there proves to be a mediumistic spirit or spirit of prediction, they should be put to death without fail.  They should pelt them to death with stones.  Their own blood is upon them."

It's the word of God, follow your religion, then get arrested

People in glass houses should not pelt stones.

I was thinking much the same thing. Christianity, by and large, has become a semi peaceful religion in which it's most fervent adherents only wish death upon the unbeliever, rather than making it happen. 700 years ago, you couldn't say that. Maybe in 700 years, Islam will grow up some too. (that number is not arbitrary)

The Christian document from which everything else Christian is taken is the Bible. Just because some people call themselves Christian, and then don't act according to the document, doesn't mean they are really Christian. It is similar for Islam. You can call yourself Muslim all day long, but if you don't act according to the document, you are not acting Muslim.

Christian documents, especially the New Testament have no directives for violence. In fact, the directives are to do exactly the opposite even in the face of violence done to the Christian... like turning the other cheek.

The gist of the Islamic documents is, peace to fellow Muslims, peace to non-Muslims while there is the chance that they might turn and become Muslims, and violence against all who adamantly will not become Muslim or those who turn away from Islam having once been Muslim.

You can strap all kinds of religious words and names to yourself, but if you do not follow the dictates of the religion, you are not really part of that religion.

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legendary
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Anarchy is not chaos.
September 18, 2015, 07:51:51 PM
Did God give the Bible to the Egyptians? Nope. How about the Japs? Well, no. The Chinese? Ah, no.

Therefore, the Bible has no authority anymore.




Lots of Egyptians, Nipponese, Chinese, and others have gone out and bought a Bible at the store. Therefore the Bible does have authority for them.

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By this logic, in my own case, I should be Jewish, Christian, Muslim, Hindu, Sikh, Buddhist, Satanic, Zoroastrian, Discordian, Republican, Democrat, Tory, and on and on. I have purchased a great many books and read even more than that. I claim they have NO authority over me. Have they influenced me? Oh, definitely. Particularly, the first ones in my list. The Bible, the Bhagavit-veda (sp?), the Q'uran, the Torah, all of these have taught me that MEN made god in their image. And that said image was usually heavily influenced by the will to power, and judging by the imagery, hallucinogens. There is no better argument for agnostic beliefs than the holy books of the various religions. Especially if you read a bunch of 'em.
legendary
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Anarchy is not chaos.
September 18, 2015, 07:41:25 PM
Terrorism emanates from hate and going by your posts I can say you harbour lot of hate towards muslims.Thank god people like you are confined to express their hatred online only

I don't hate Muslims. In my experience most Muslims are like most Christians -- they don't know jack shit about their religion. The problem with Muslims is only if they start learning about their religion and taking it seriously. I suspect most Muslims who get to the point that they start learning about their religion either (1) stop learning about it because of the consequences or (2) stop believing in Islam but pretend to in order to stay alive. It's the third category -- those that learn about it and believe more fervently -- that form groups like ISIS.

Yes!

This is the thing that I have been trying to get people to understand for a long time, now.

People just can't get it through their thick skulls that Islam is that violent... at least not until they become full fledged Muslims, and then it is too late to back out easily.

Smiley

Leviticus 20:27 "And as for a man or woman in whom there proves to be a mediumistic spirit or spirit of prediction, they should be put to death without fail.  They should pelt them to death with stones.  Their own blood is upon them."

It's the word of God, follow your religion, then get arrested

People in glass houses should not pelt stones.

I was thinking much the same thing. Christianity, by and large, has become a semi peaceful religion in which it's most fervent adherents only wish death upon the unbeliever, rather than making it happen. 700 years ago, you couldn't say that. Maybe in 700 years, Islam will grow up some too. (that number is not arbitrary)
legendary
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September 18, 2015, 02:37:50 PM
Did God give the Bible to the Egyptians? Nope. How about the Japs? Well, no. The Chinese? Ah, no.

Therefore, the Bible has no authority anymore.




Lots of Egyptians, Nipponese, Chinese, and others have gone out and bought a Bible at the store. Therefore the Bible does have authority for them.

Smiley

A book doesn't have authority over any other human being. Humans have the illusion that books dictate their lives

True. But the difference with the Bible is, it is through reading the Bible, or listening to it on Bible CDs, the Holy Spirit of God makes inroads into peoples' lives. Thus the authority of God will appear through the people who are one God's side because they have read the Bible.

Not everyone listens to the calling of the Holy Spirit when they read the Bible. It is doubly sad for them, because they came so close, yet lost it all.

 Cry
hero member
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September 18, 2015, 02:30:37 PM
Did God give the Bible to the Egyptians? Nope. How about the Japs? Well, no. The Chinese? Ah, no.

Therefore, the Bible has no authority anymore.




Lots of Egyptians, Nipponese, Chinese, and others have gone out and bought a Bible at the store. Therefore the Bible does have authority for them.

Smiley

A book doesn't have authority over any other human being. Humans have the illusion that books dictate their lives
legendary
Activity: 3990
Merit: 1385
September 18, 2015, 02:18:30 PM
Did God give the Bible to the Egyptians? Nope. How about the Japs? Well, no. The Chinese? Ah, no.

Therefore, the Bible has no authority anymore.




Lots of Egyptians, Nipponese, Chinese, and others have gone out and bought a Bible at the store. Therefore the Bible does have authority for them.

Smiley
hero member
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September 18, 2015, 02:12:39 PM
Did God give the Bible to the Egyptians? Nope. How about the Japs? Well, no. The Chinese? Ah, no.

Therefore, the Bible has no authority anymore.


legendary
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Merit: 1385
September 18, 2015, 01:53:31 PM
Terrorism emanates from hate and going by your posts I can say you harbour lot of hate towards muslims.Thank god people like you are confined to express their hatred online only

I don't hate Muslims. In my experience most Muslims are like most Christians -- they don't know jack shit about their religion. The problem with Muslims is only if they start learning about their religion and taking it seriously. I suspect most Muslims who get to the point that they start learning about their religion either (1) stop learning about it because of the consequences or (2) stop believing in Islam but pretend to in order to stay alive. It's the third category -- those that learn about it and believe more fervently -- that form groups like ISIS.

Yes!

This is the thing that I have been trying to get people to understand for a long time, now.

People just can't get it through their thick skulls that Islam is that violent... at least not until they become full fledged Muslims, and then it is too late to back out easily.

Smiley

Leviticus 20:27 "And as for a man or woman in whom there proves to be a mediumistic spirit or spirit of prediction, they should be put to death without fail.  They should pelt them to death with stones.  Their own blood is upon them."

It's the word of God, follow your religion, then get arrested

People in glass houses should not pelt stones.

The Christian religion says that the Torah laws were given to the nation of Israel, and those who say that they are part of the nation of Israel.

Since I am not of that nation of Israel, those laws don't apply to me in the sense that I can be arrested for not obeying. Besides, I have not been accused of breaking this law even if it could be applied to me. No accusation, no arrest.

On top of that, I am part of the spiritual Israel. There is complete forgiveness there. God has not accused me, nor has any man. What are you blabbing about? Are you going to make false accusations against me?

However, thank you for this opportunity to respond. It gives me practice responding, in the event I ever need to go to court.

Smiley

"Do not think that I have come to abolish the law or the prophets.  I have come not to abolish but to fulfill.  Amen, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest part or the smallest part of a letter will pass from the law, until all things have taken place."  (Matthew 5:17 NAB)


For truly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass the law until all is accomplished.  Whoever then relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but he who does them and teaches them shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven  (Matthew 5:18-19 RSV)  Clearly the Old Testament is to be abided by until the end of human existence itself.  None other then Jesus said so.

"It is easier for Heaven and Earth to pass away than for the smallest part of the letter of the law to become invalid."  (Luke 16:17 NAB)

If you ever did go to court, you'd get sued for being a shitty lawyer

Did God give the law of Israel to the Egyptians? NO. How about to the Japs? Well, no. The Chinese? Ah, no. Well then who did He give it to. The people of Israel, right?

Israel that exists today is not the Israel of God. They were set in place by the U.S. to make inroads into the Middle East for oil purposes. However, God holds Israel in His heart, so that all those who profess to be part of the physical Israel must obey the laws of physical Israel.

The part of the Bible that is for the Gentiles and everybody is the part about faith in Jesus, Jesus salvation.

If I happen to have some Jewish blood in me, I don't really know it for sure. But even then, I am not professing to be part of the physical nation of Israel. I am part of the spiritual Israel, the one that believes in Jesus salvation.

Even the early church didn't impose the Law given to Israel onto the gentiles. Acts 16:19-21:
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“It is my judgment, therefore, that we should not make it difficult for the Gentiles who are turning to God. 20Instead we should write to them, telling them to abstain from food polluted by idols, from sexual immorality, from the meat of strangled animals and from blood. For Moses has been preached in every city from the earliest times and is read in the synagogues on every Sabbath.”

You want to be under the law like Israel was? Go ahead.

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September 18, 2015, 01:38:29 PM
Terrorism emanates from hate and going by your posts I can say you harbour lot of hate towards muslims.Thank god people like you are confined to express their hatred online only

I don't hate Muslims. In my experience most Muslims are like most Christians -- they don't know jack shit about their religion. The problem with Muslims is only if they start learning about their religion and taking it seriously. I suspect most Muslims who get to the point that they start learning about their religion either (1) stop learning about it because of the consequences or (2) stop believing in Islam but pretend to in order to stay alive. It's the third category -- those that learn about it and believe more fervently -- that form groups like ISIS.

Yes!

This is the thing that I have been trying to get people to understand for a long time, now.

People just can't get it through their thick skulls that Islam is that violent... at least not until they become full fledged Muslims, and then it is too late to back out easily.

Smiley

Leviticus 20:27 "And as for a man or woman in whom there proves to be a mediumistic spirit or spirit of prediction, they should be put to death without fail.  They should pelt them to death with stones.  Their own blood is upon them."

It's the word of God, follow your religion, then get arrested

People in glass houses should not pelt stones.

The Christian religion says that the Torah laws were given to the nation of Israel, and those who say that they are part of the nation of Israel.

Since I am not of that nation of Israel, those laws don't apply to me in the sense that I can be arrested for not obeying. Besides, I have not been accused of breaking this law even if it could be applied to me. No accusation, no arrest.

On top of that, I am part of the spiritual Israel. There is complete forgiveness there. God has not accused me, nor has any man. What are you blabbing about? Are you going to make false accusations against me?

However, thank you for this opportunity to respond. It gives me practice responding, in the event I ever need to go to court.

Smiley

"Do not think that I have come to abolish the law or the prophets.  I have come not to abolish but to fulfill.  Amen, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest part or the smallest part of a letter will pass from the law, until all things have taken place."  (Matthew 5:17 NAB)


For truly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass the law until all is accomplished.  Whoever then relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but he who does them and teaches them shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven  (Matthew 5:18-19 RSV)  Clearly the Old Testament is to be abided by until the end of human existence itself.  None other then Jesus said so.

"It is easier for Heaven and Earth to pass away than for the smallest part of the letter of the law to become invalid."  (Luke 16:17 NAB)

If you ever did go to court, you'd get sued for being a shitty lawyer
legendary
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September 18, 2015, 01:09:58 PM
Terrorism emanates from hate and going by your posts I can say you harbour lot of hate towards muslims.Thank god people like you are confined to express their hatred online only

I don't hate Muslims. In my experience most Muslims are like most Christians -- they don't know jack shit about their religion. The problem with Muslims is only if they start learning about their religion and taking it seriously. I suspect most Muslims who get to the point that they start learning about their religion either (1) stop learning about it because of the consequences or (2) stop believing in Islam but pretend to in order to stay alive. It's the third category -- those that learn about it and believe more fervently -- that form groups like ISIS.

Yes!

This is the thing that I have been trying to get people to understand for a long time, now.

People just can't get it through their thick skulls that Islam is that violent... at least not until they become full fledged Muslims, and then it is too late to back out easily.

Smiley

Leviticus 20:27 "And as for a man or woman in whom there proves to be a mediumistic spirit or spirit of prediction, they should be put to death without fail.  They should pelt them to death with stones.  Their own blood is upon them."

It's the word of God, follow your religion, then get arrested

People in glass houses should not pelt stones.

The Christian religion says that the Torah laws were given to the nation of Israel, and those who say that they are part of the nation of Israel.

Since I am not of that nation of Israel, those laws don't apply to me in the sense that I can be arrested for not obeying. Besides, I have not been accused of breaking this law even if it could be applied to me. No accusation, no arrest.

On top of that, I am part of the spiritual Israel. There is complete forgiveness there. God has not accused me, nor has any man. What are you blabbing about? Are you going to make false accusations against me?

However, thank you for this opportunity to respond. It gives me practice responding, in the event I ever need to go to court.

Smiley
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September 18, 2015, 01:00:07 PM
Terrorism emanates from hate and going by your posts I can say you harbour lot of hate towards muslims.Thank god people like you are confined to express their hatred online only

I don't hate Muslims. In my experience most Muslims are like most Christians -- they don't know jack shit about their religion. The problem with Muslims is only if they start learning about their religion and taking it seriously. I suspect most Muslims who get to the point that they start learning about their religion either (1) stop learning about it because of the consequences or (2) stop believing in Islam but pretend to in order to stay alive. It's the third category -- those that learn about it and believe more fervently -- that form groups like ISIS.

Yes!

This is the thing that I have been trying to get people to understand for a long time, now.

People just can't get it through their thick skulls that Islam is that violent... at least not until they become full fledged Muslims, and then it is too late to back out easily.

Smiley

Leviticus 20:27 "And as for a man or woman in whom there proves to be a mediumistic spirit or spirit of prediction, they should be put to death without fail.  They should pelt them to death with stones.  Their own blood is upon them."

It's the word of God, follow your religion, then get arrested

People in glass houses should not pelt stones.
legendary
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Merit: 1385
September 18, 2015, 12:44:10 PM
Terrorism emanates from hate and going by your posts I can say you harbour lot of hate towards muslims.Thank god people like you are confined to express their hatred online only

I don't hate Muslims. In my experience most Muslims are like most Christians -- they don't know jack shit about their religion. The problem with Muslims is only if they start learning about their religion and taking it seriously. I suspect most Muslims who get to the point that they start learning about their religion either (1) stop learning about it because of the consequences or (2) stop believing in Islam but pretend to in order to stay alive. It's the third category -- those that learn about it and believe more fervently -- that form groups like ISIS.

Yes!

This is the thing that I have been trying to get people to understand for a long time, now.

People just can't get it through their thick skulls that Islam is that violent... at least not until they become full fledged Muslims, and then it is too late to back out easily.

Smiley
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Islam and Nazism are belief systems, not races.
September 18, 2015, 07:22:23 AM
Terrorism emanates from hate and going by your posts I can say you harbour lot of hate towards muslims.Thank god people like you are confined to express their hatred online only

I don't hate Muslims. In my experience most Muslims are like most Christians -- they don't know jack shit about their religion. The problem with Muslims is only if they start learning about their religion and taking it seriously. I suspect most Muslims who get to the point that they start learning about their religion either (1) stop learning about it because of the consequences or (2) stop believing in Islam but pretend to in order to stay alive. It's the third category -- those that learn about it and believe more fervently -- that form groups like ISIS.
legendary
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September 18, 2015, 07:17:35 AM
I added a link to snopes to my signature that verifies that Palestians celebrated 9/11, something which is obviously completely obvious anyway.
maybe they were celebrating seeing the internal conflicts, I don't think there was any foreigner involved in that incident.
I remember that incident.   They were celebrating the actions of Muslim Terrorists in bringing down the two towers.  They were interviewed on the streets.
dude you are a legendary ?? please unchain your mind, there was no foreigner involved in that incident ..
why did the towers got insaurance for terrorist attacks just a month before ? everything was planned .
and how many bucks do u need to give to 5 people to come on streets and dance for some minutes ?

Maybe because it was renew insurance time?

LOL do you have a point?

First you argue they were not dancing celebrating 911, now you say they were but they were paid? 
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September 18, 2015, 07:04:22 AM
I added a link to snopes to my signature that verifies that Palestians celebrated 9/11, something which is obviously completely obvious anyway.
maybe they were celebrating seeing the internal conflicts, I don't think there was any foreigner involved in that incident.
I remember that incident.   They were celebrating the actions of Muslim Terrorists in bringing down the two towers.  They were interviewed on the streets.
dude you are a legendary ?? please unchain your mind, there was no foreigner involved in that incident ..
why did the towers got insaurance for terrorist attacks just a month before ? everything was planned .
and how many bucks do u need to give to 5 people to come on streets and dance for some minutes ?
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