Topic: Why do people in USA fear socialism so much? - page 15. (Read 34871 times)

Quote from: myrkul on April 09, 2013, 02:22:08 PM

do you know that some people, actually wants to pay taxes because they supports the system?

Wouldn't it be great to pick which programs you support, and not have to get the whole package, the welfare AND the bombs?

why don't you want welfare?

Are you implying I'm OK with the bombs? Or are you the one who pays into the system willingly, because you like blowing up brown people on the other side of the planet?

Read it again: Wouldn't it be great to pick which programs you support? To be able to pay to support people who need help, without having to ALSO pay for blowing up brown people on the other side of the planet?

but its fun to blow people up! (yes, im trolling hard now!)

yes it would be nice if we had a choice, thats why we have elections every 4 years(here in denmark). more direct democracy would be nice.

Or perhaps a direct choice of the programs? http://www.charitynavigator.org Help specifically the people you want to help, without risking that the money might instead be used to detonate children on another continent. The best part is, if the organization you're funding decides to blow up people instead of helping the ones they said they would, you don't have to wait 4 years to pick a different one.

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Quote from: myrkul on April 09, 2013, 02:22:08 PM

do you know that some people, actually wants to pay taxes because they supports the system?

Wouldn't it be great to pick which programs you support, and not have to get the whole package, the welfare AND the bombs?

why don't you want welfare?

Are you implying I'm OK with the bombs? Or are you the one who pays into the system willingly, because you like blowing up brown people on the other side of the planet?

Read it again: Wouldn't it be great to pick which programs you support? To be able to pay to support people who need help, without having to ALSO pay for blowing up brown people on the other side of the planet?

Exactly only buy the government programs you want. Kind of like downloading the two good songs from the album and leaving the other 10 sucky ones

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do you know that some people, actually wants to pay taxes because they supports the system?

Wouldn't it be great to pick which programs you support, and not have to get the whole package, the welfare AND the bombs?

why don't you want welfare?

Are you implying I'm OK with the bombs? Or are you the one who pays into the system willingly, because you like blowing up brown people on the other side of the planet?

Read it again: Wouldn't it be great to pick which programs you support? To be able to pay to support people who need help, without having to ALSO pay for blowing up brown people on the other side of the planet?

but its fun to blow people up! (yes, im trolling hard now!)

yes it would be nice if we had a choice, thats why we have elections every 4 years(here in denmark). more direct democracy would be nice.

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Good news, everyone! When 3D printers become a household staple, millions of jobs will disappear!

Well, that's one perceived drawback of capitalism, anyway. When there are no jobs, where will people work? I suppose they'll have to resort to making their own work. People will resort to doing things they like to do, like writing, or building stuff. We're slowly working our way to a jobless economy, which makes many of these common economic systems pointless. If we can create quality food cheaply by machine labor, we have solved 99 problems, but the state ain't one.

I apologize for that last statement; however, see here: Post-scarcity

We now have an abundance of matter and energy (perhaps not widescale, but at least in certain countries.) All we need now is an abundance of smart people to put two and two together.

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do you know that some people, actually wants to pay taxes because they supports the system?

Wouldn't it be great to pick which programs you support, and not have to get the whole package, the welfare AND the bombs?

why don't you want welfare?

Are you implying I'm OK with the bombs? Or are you the one who pays into the system willingly, because you like blowing up brown people on the other side of the planet?

Read it again: Wouldn't it be great to pick which programs you support? To be able to pay to support people who need help, without having to ALSO pay for blowing up brown people on the other side of the planet?

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Quote from: jerkoff on April 09, 2013, 02:13:22 PM

No, it doesn't:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capitalism
Perhaps you're thinking of State Capitalism.

Can't argue that.
I probably meant some capitalistic mixed-economy.

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Every region has its own crazy political delusion, europe has socialism, the us has those guys that want to ignore federal government and just shoot at everyone from their shack, who knows what that is about ?

THERE YOU GO!

Each system have its advantages and disadvantages. The best system is the one you can modify depending on what your society needs. Staying closed-minded because of the "tag" on the system is utterly stupid.

I agree that when opportunities are plenty for 90% of the population, capitalism is really great! But when you have limited opportunities for a limited part of the population? You're not playing the same game anymore, you can't use the same tools.

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Quote from: Mike Christ on April 09, 2013, 02:06:01 PM

do you know that some people, actually wants to pay taxes because they supports the system?

Wouldn't it be great to pick which programs you support, and not have to get the whole package, the welfare AND the bombs?

why don't you want welfare?

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You are WRONG!

What the eff is study? I've never studied a day in my life, and yet I know plenty--in fact, I know most of what I know from simple observation and the Internet.

Are you familiar with the term autodidact? It's always a good idea to become one.

In your defense, my best friend says he cannot properly learn any subject without a teacher feeding him his lines. So I suppose there's that.

i have learned alot of stuff by my self too, BUT some stuff just needs to be explained.

and whole the thoroughness of math, is hard to learn by yourself(autodidact or not).

math is not hard to understand, but hard to do correct.

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Quote from: Geddi on April 09, 2013, 01:56:30 PM

Quote from: myrkul on April 09, 2013, 01:50:06 PM

Yes, also Fascism, and Communism. Capitalism unaffected.

Capitalism unaffected? Shocked

Taxes may be overspent and spent on wrong subjects, but people(myself included) never really want to pay for stuff that everybody (but not themselves specifically) benefits from and survives with. Capitalism has that stuff too. That's taxes for me.

No, it doesn't:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capitalism

Quote from: kokjo on April 09, 2013, 02:02:43 PM

its still not the same as blackboards, and having a whole bunch of very clever people around to ask.

This is true. But we also have discussion boards (for the clever people) and diagrams (which are probably better drawn than something whipped up in 5 minutes in front of the class).