Topic: Why do people in USA fear socialism so much? - page 11. (Read 34886 times)

I don't think he was specifically speaking of the housing bubble, but the fact that in a capitalist economy, if you don't pay your bills, you're out on your ear.

Personal responsibility. It's a bitch.

Spot on

No, government and the central bank screwed over the market by messing around with interest rates which resulted in the impoverishment of many and the enrichment of a few.  Which is what always happens in any kind of central planning system.

Not at all. They could rent, live with friends, or parents, or get together with some other people and share a house.

then they would still be without homes.

people just need to realize that there are enough resources for all to live happily, instead of the "fuck you, this is mine" capitalistic attitude.

they shouldn't have signed the mortgage.

Communism would work great if:
a) we were ants or bees, perfectly content to be mindless drones.
b) we limited population to just enough to work the farms to feed themselves
c) robots did all the work and everybody could piddle-fuck around all day

At least, until the robots got tired of doing all the work, and killed us all.

and liberalism rob people of their home, if they can't pay the bills...

Funny how so many fucked up and delusional leaders use communism as the excuse to kill their people, innit?

Well...communism + anarchism seems to be all right.  I just wonder how it could work in this day of age; in that movie I watched, about the Spanish, they were mostly farmers and the like.  In the digital age, where most people are in some kind of technical job, would communism still work all right?  You'd have to be close to farms (not a problem in Texas, but I imagine a place like NY might have a tougher time feeding lots of people), or barter for your food, which would essentially be capitalism.

no, a fucked up paranoid and delusional leader did.

'cause it is. It's killed thousands, if not millions, of people worldwide.

and you are saying communism like its a bad thing.

Because socialists tend to be Jewish and Hitler hated Socialism.

Aw everyone knows anarchism is all about doing drugs, blowing stuff up and wearing your hair in a pink mo'hok

By that do you mean "Classical" liberalism, or what the US calls liberalism?

And you say anarchy like it's a bad thing.

liberalism is a precursor to civil wars and anarchy.

socialism is a precursor to communism. once you run out of other people's money and there are no more people to make money then it fails to either anarchy or communism. if it is anarchy then the government attempts to take over even more and it will become a totalitarian communist state. it's only a matter of time. if it doesn't happen over night with force, it evolves. once communism fails years later out of the lack of money and resources then we fall back to anarchy and once again capitalism because people need some sort of structure. it's a cycle that happens with roadblocks, speedbumps, and acceleration created by people with agendas. and honestly, the biggest capitalists are huge socialists like soros, etc. the big guys who like to eat countries for dinner.

it's unfortunate that FDR did what he did and i'm glad he passed away before his 2nd bill of rights had a chance. it's unfortunate that the racist LBJ did what he did for the reasons why health care in the USA does cost so much is because of insurance and medicare/medicaid. why did i say racist? did you hear what he said about the reason WHY he passed it? it wasn't to help poor people. it was to get those n****** to vote for them. words out of LBJ's mouth, not mine.

i personally find it unethical for the government to put its hand in everything and control what you do. you can't have a socialist or communist system without a lot of control and government hand dipping. we were free like that once, until the progressive era and those annoying two roosevelts (both progressive - one a democrat and one a republican.)

Capitalism, socialism, communism; they're all terrible systems once they fall prey to the state.

Americans hate socialism and communism because they're trained to through propaganda.  I don't think North Korea and China are teaching their citizens about how wonderful capitalism is, either.  Point is, big government is going to tell you anything to keep you under their foot.  For those who support voluntary socialism: cool beans.  But if you're promoting involuntary socialism (e.g. state socialism), you're missing the point.  You're still putting all the power into the few and they'll do what they want with little regard to how anyone feels; the point is to keep you thinking you're beneath those on top.

Plus, it doesn't help that the socialism that does exist in America is completely fucking us over.  But as I said, it's not socialism, it's fascism that's killing us.